Bjorn / dev teams

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Hey can we get an official Dev team that actually likes to get bugs fixed on GK?? Seriously Bjorn wouldn't even agree to using a "new" (Modified) gani to change a throne colour. I even tested it before I came to him to ask him if we can use it in the rest of the files.

You know MMT, we wanted some carpet NPC's that are not able to be picked up, you know how long that would take to draw up?? Seriously, 2 minutes if I did them all and got some coffee.

I am literally tired of waiting for Bjorn to login once ever 2 days that I do see him to ask him about something. Half the time I'm tired enough I have forgotten what it was that I even wanted.

Did you know that the stone mines are still screwed up?!? Yes they are go fix it Bjorn, or wait no nevermind I forget you wouldnt want to fix the bugs.

Come on Stefan why do you let Bjorn sit around and work on some website when we could be fixing some of these really bad bugs like those mines?

I heard a rumour, yes a rumour, that I actually believed. Care to hear it??
"Bjorn logged off when I asked him about my house basement addon. Someone said he only does that on weekends." Why should anyone even say that?

Did you know some players are mad enough at Bjorn that about 30 of them actually signed a petition that was removed for the fear that someone like oh... Bjorn would say its anti graal or something like that and bann them all??
Yes its true Bjorn I seen that too.

**notes, I'm make a statement here, I am not anti graal, I want less bugs in GK thats all.
** Also a few new things helps a server out alot more then you can really imagine, but dont think thats the only thing good you can do.

[lordbosh]

I signed that petition. I will stand with what I did still, as I believe I made the right choice. And the reason is not Bjorn's character, or his professional display. It is the lack of bad choices being made. A manager must be all of these, and most importantly have the motivation to go above and beyond their work and try to improve what they are responsible for. I have yet to see this in any staff, but it shines on bjorn greatly.

If you consider a manager next time, think about the whole structure of how you develop a game. It is flawed. A manager needs leadership skills above all else: self motivation, the ability to motivate others, the ability to prioritize projects, the ability to create and observe as projects are completed. This has not really been practiced by graalonline administration as of yet when seeking a good candidate for manager.

[Crono]

It is the lack of bad choices being made.

You mean lack of good choices?

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Some of you may have noticed allready, or you may not have noticed, either way thats fine. I have been working with Draxx to improve the Forest kingdom island. For the 3 years I have played Graal, the past 2 Forest has lied in ruin and dormant, I bring it new updates and changes to better GK. Bjorn is the only thing stopping us from making it even better. I think he's afaird I might be too good for him to help out. Then again I'm being silly about him being afraid.

No really, Draxx has all sorts of ideas that we want to try and use most of them. Bjorn is limiting us, and Stefan is not, its funny that we cannot do one thing though Bjorn, but Stefan just says Okay and hands it too us.

** Bosh mentioned to me that he nolonger cares if he even gets banned, you know I really do not blame him after all of this. Thats not very nice but I have nothing I can do to fix his problem.

[Ravenblade1979]

I am sorry Bjorn but you have worked alot more on ur site lately and you even refused to help the MMT further at my request. You said that you did enough for it and are now helping a rival tavern. when it comes in are you still going to help it? I am not sure right now. I am leaning towards yes. You said that we couldn't get anymore spawned stuff like the beer and that. What about the other tavern? are you going to secretly help them? We asked sam months ago to get MMT shields made? are you in charge of that too?

Look i don't want to get banned, em privlages taken or anything like that but i hear how lazy you are and stuff like that. GK needs staff that will work on stuff and not release 2 new things once a year. Stefan is busy as anything and i would hate to bother him with any of this. I think the people may call for you to get removed and be replaced with someone who will work day after day to improve things.

In fact would love to see Stefan's reaction to this thread.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Maybe I am wrong, Maybe I am not. Have you ever once thought of a Co-Manager that would be willing enough to help out on GK? It wont kill you would it? Bjorn does some really nice work, the problem really is he is doing all of it, himself. I know for a fact that I have too much to do with the jobs I have on GK, not complaining or anything but the entire server. That I know would be something else to try and keep under control. The really funny thing about this, does Bjorn even play the server anymore? Do you staff know that bugs even exist?

Hey I know Sam did his part and then some, but now he's gone and GK's in trouble. Sam went to moderate the forums, that are just about completly ignored by 70% of GK really. Well atleast the ones that actually play the server.

[Ravenblade1979]

Sam is on everyday but is swamped with pm's when he gets on.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

You know I what I meant Raven, I know Sam still plays. But its different now that he doesnt have anything to really do with GK. His attitude towards it has changed and he wont be helping MMT out much anymore. I've worked with Sam at MMT for awhile now, I know what he used to do for the place. How do you think we managed to get beer, I bet Bjorn wont help with that anymore once Sam is gone.

This could be easily solved by allowing the Misty Mug Tavern to actually craft it there to sell it. But no thats too much work for our Bjorn.

**BTW the carpets that you wanted Raven, here's the NPC script for that.

//#CLIENTSIDE
if(playerenters){
setimg g2k2carpet4.png;
dontblock;
drawunderplayer;
}

Simple isnt it...

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Seriously Bjorn wouldn't even agree to using a "new" (Modified) gani to change a throne colour.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have really no idea what's wrong with you. I just made you a suggestion how you can change the current throne without a new gani. You could have used the old one -> less work for you. But since you did it already I said ok, leave it as it is becasue to change it would be more work again. But this suggestion could have helped you to save time in the future when doing something with ganis again. But no miss suddenly said I do not allow a new gani. I never said that!

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

You know MMT, we wanted some carpet NPC's that are not able to be picked up, you know how long that would take to draw up?? Seriously, 2 minutes if I did them all and got some coffee.

I'm not a slave of the MMT, this is a project from you guys and not mine. If you want a carpet you can not pick up make it yourself! Get the level, put same NPC with the image of the carpet you want in it and everything is fine. Just an edit of the level. Now you ask how can I get it. Ask Sam, he has access to the level because he is "owner" of the MMT. Or ask me to give you access. But if you don't ask, how can I smell you want access? This is really not too hard, is it?

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

I am literally tired of waiting for Bjorn to login once ever 2 days that I do see him to ask him about something. Half the time I'm tired enough I have forgotten what it was that I even wanted.

So, who longs on every 2 days. At least it is not me! You can check RC logs on GK and on Debug if you want. But wait, do I have to be online? NO, I don't. You can write a forum pm or an email. But it seems you prefere not to do that instead you just wait and complain. Just for example you log on Debug and I'm the only one who is online you don't even say hello and that for 30 minutes now! I don't get this, really. (Now = Time of my post).

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Did you know that the stone mines are still screwed up?!? Yes they are go fix it Bjorn, or wait no nevermind I forget you wouldnt want to fix the bugs.

I'm not Jesue. How can I know that if noone tells me? I have no time to actually play so how can I find it out? But complain first and then tell that there is a bug...

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Come on Stefan why do you let Bjorn sit around and work on some website when we could be fixing some of these really bad bugs like those mines?

Like I said above. You never told me!

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

I heard a rumour, yes a rumour, that I actually believed. Care to hear it??
"Bjorn logged off when I asked him about my house basement addon. Someone said he only does that on weekends." Why should anyone even say that?

Björn logged off. Oh, do I always have to ask you before I log off? I really don't think so. How can I smell if you want to write me a pm? Oh wait, you could have send me a forum pm which contains your question and I could have sent you an answer? I guess it is something else you mean. I upload things in the evening, that's what I said and still say.

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Did you know some players are mad enough at Bjorn that about 30 of them actually signed a petition that was removed for the fear that someone like oh... Bjorn would say its anti graal or something like that and bann them all??
Yes its true Bjorn I seen that too.

I never saw one and I never removed one that is everything I can say to this. Oh, wait? How come you know what I would say or do? This is really out of your mind. I guess you like it to ban players or accuss people of something?

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

No really, Draxx has all sorts of ideas that we want to try and use most of them. Bjorn is limiting us, and Stefan is not, its funny that we cannot do one thing though Bjorn, but Stefan just says Okay and hands it too us.

Oh, I limit you. I just say no to items with super high stats. Wait a moment, I said I upload the list of stuff you gave me for forest. What a limit? Or is it becasue I didn't uploaded it when you gave me the list? I guess the reason was that it alrady was 3 hours after midnight here!

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

How do you think we managed to get beer

It was created! But we are going to have a new tavern, Vals. I do not support this creating anymore if there is a secound one. That's why we are going to make it so that the taverns can produce it. You could have asked Sam, he knows it. We already talked about it.


I really have no idea what's wrong with you. Are you mad becasue I allowed another tavern and the MMT is not alone anymore? Or because I didn't do your small NPC you could have done yourself but never did?

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Your taking this all a bit too seriously though, Maybe I'm just seeing things but how do you explain the rest of the players that post threads in the bug sections on these forums? I've posted several times all sorts of bugs that remain on GK to this very day. How can I tell you anything if you dont even listen.

It's very possible that we just don't speak the same language all that well perhaps. I can see some possibility of you actually being german (I think thats what it is) that could be a problem, if not minor.

The updates we wish to do had nothing to do with items, unless Draxx was doing something he never told me about. Which wouldnt be supprizing by the way.

I do not mind that you are opening another Tavern either, like I allready said I have other issues to deal with. Though I would have suggested a different kind of business that could actually benefit GK more then simply another tavern. Another tavern isnt a problem, though the idea is just being copied from the original tavern. Look at all the new players running around asking for weapons all the time. Think about that for a second would you, a blacksmith/weaponsmith could have some money in there too.

You really do not have to worry about me much, its the other players that do not agree entirely with what you do all the time. Maybe you need to talk to them about it. Oh and by the way, you don't see that petition because I didn't agree with it, as it was turning anti graal and I dont agree with that.

[hampy]

The job of a player manager is to listen to the 'players' and help them with everything they want

[hampy]

Even if it does mean going out of your way to do something you don't really want to do

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by hampy

The job of a player manager is to listen to the 'players' and help them with everything they want

I always listen to them. But I can't smell if they want to pm me. But if they don't do it and are just angry I can't help them anyway.
Not really, I can't help them with everything. I can't do something for them that is against the rules. I also can't do things I have no rights for, and this is quite a bit. I do not have full rights on GK like lots of people think.

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Your taking this all a bit too seriously though, Maybe I'm just seeing things but how do you explain the rest of the players that post threads in the bug sections on these forums? I've posted several times all sorts of bugs that remain on GK to this very day. How can I tell you anything if you dont even listen.

Like I already said I do not have rights for everything.

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Another tavern isnt a problem, though the idea is just being copied from the original tavern. Look at all the new players running around asking for weapons all the time. Think about that for a second would you, a blacksmith/weaponsmith could have some money in there too.

I don't see why we should do any big things for that right now? We can simply give them a weapon to start with but that's it. But more is sensless since Stefna and Unixmad want to change the whole trial thing, make guest accounts and give those more rights on Kingdoms to actually have more fun. Those things are already planned and going to come. But Stefan is mainly working on the new Graal 3D right now.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Listen to the forums yet?

Since Bjorn was being evil about me not telling him bugs, here I took the time to find many of the bugs that I have seen/noticed or think could be fixed.

- BUGS
Boat Mayhem
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=66877

Castle walls (remember this one, wasnt Bjorn that fixed that)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=66184

Gani problems indoor and outdoor (still not done)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=66184

Drain Mana (and you still talk about things being too powerfull)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=64524

Horse bugs (that fixed yet?)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=64346

Shields (I still use that Gani I redid, it works fine, Honestly)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=63477

Horse bugs (oh look and older one)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=63457

Brigid Anomalies (by Draenin even, still a bug too)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=63018

Boat Problems (really old thread, still having boat problems)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=60201

[Draenin]

Dayaa, please give us one day without drama, kthx.