Logs

[WanDaMan]

In the history of a PM I think they should add the players account. For example:

WanDaMan:!Wan (Tux) (23/09/2005 22:31:03)

I was on UN yesterday and this person called me a German *******. I went to our history and copied what he had said and send it to a GP. The GP asked for his account name, upon asking the individual had logged offline so I couldn't get it


It'll come in handy for stuff like this

[Ibonic]

Seems like it'd be redundant to add both the account name and nickname to every message in history like that. It might be nice if the account name was inserted just once at the beginning of the conversation after the log is loaded so that it can be copied.

For example:

Conversation between Ibonic (unknown) and Stefan (dnd)

unknown (12/14/2005 7:17:33 PM):
fake!
dnd (12/14/2005 7:16:00 PM):
i didn't really type this

Although I see there could be a slight problem if both are using the same nickname. Hmm, "You" and "Opposite" could be used even while online maybe?

Conversation between Ibonic:unknown (You) and Stefan:dnd (Opposite)

You (12/14/2005 7:17:33 PM):
fake!
Opposite (12/14/2005 7:16:00 PM):
i didn't really type this

Nah, I don't like that.

Just account names?

Conversation between unknown (*Ibonic) and dnd (*Stefan)

*Ibonic (12/14/2005 7:17:33 PM):
fake!
*Stefan (12/14/2005 7:16:00 PM):
i didn't really type this

There are many possibilities. Maybe yours is best afterall; The redundancy can be good when copying and pasting only a part of the log.


Anyway, normally what I do when that happens is open the PM history folder in Windows Explorer (if on Windows at the time) and sort the files by the last time they were modified in order to figure out who it was. I used to do that when people messaged me and then logged off before I was able to read the PM, until Stefan acted on my request to implement the "offline messages" in v4.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Ibonic

Nah, I don't like that.

Just account names?



There are many possibilities. Maybe yours is best afterall; The redundancy can be good when copying and pasting only a part of the log.


Anyway, normally what I do when that happens is open the PM history folder in Windows Explorer (if on Windows at the time) and sort the files by the last time they were modified in order to figure out who it was. I used to do that when people messaged me and then logged off before I was able to read the PM, until Stefan acted on my request to implement the "offline messages" in v4.

I agree for history to display account names only. Nicknames to be displayed would be kind of pointless, wouldn't it?

[NicoX]

Yeah that idea with the Accountname only is a good idea.
The Accountname is more important then the nick so who cares the nickname ?

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by NicoX

Yeah that idea with the Accountname only is a good idea.
The Accountname is more important then the nick so who cares the nickname ?

What if you're trying to accuse someone of impersonating a staff member?

[Darlene159]

I like the only showing account name idea.

[xAndrewx]

No editing it either?

[excaliber7388]

How could you not edit it? really the history is hard to use a proof, just as screenshots are as well (so easy to edit, or make a level with NPCs). The best way to get someone in trouble, is for them to admit to it (yeah right) or to catch them in the act However, showing the account name would be a good idea Maybe even allow staff to so other people's history, so they can see the un-edited versions

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Maybe even allow staff to so other people's history, so they can see the un-edited versions

LOL, how about no?

[excaliber7388]

why not?

[Damix2]

Maybe globals, not every servers staff. I'd rather not have some crappy servers manager reading my PMs

[excaliber7388]

i know they're personal messages, but therer would be no need to see them unless there was a complaint. it could help a lot. I mean, what could you be saying that's so bad XD The only reason you'd be against this,is if you have something to hide. It would be something only high staff on each server could do

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

i know they're personal messages, but therer would be no need to see them unless there was a complaint.

I guarentee this would be abused and people use it when they want to, rather than need to.

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

what could you be saying that's so bad XD

Perhaps personal information about your life that you don't want other people to know about?

[Sacred Shadow]

The first suggestion seemed like a good idea.

[Mykel]

Logs can't be used to jail someone. Plain and simple. They are way too easy to make up. There really isn't a way around it without invading privacy.