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Old 05-14-2005, 08:06 PM
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PWA's were not hiring. If Bjoern was put into the team, well, I guess it's because they like the guy.
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Wouldn't a global have announced this if it were true?
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I don't know, I just heard this. It doesn't surprise me though .
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I think it would be best of the person in the position of power which controls the PW Team at the minute would have beenbetter off announcing this :P
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It seems Bjoern is going to be added to the PWA team. I like the guy, but I havnt seen him do anything close to what PWA do, so I dont see how andrew can say it doesnt surprise him that he's getting the position.

Hrmm....

This just doesnt seem right.
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It seems Bjoern is going to be added to the PWA team. I like the guy, but I havnt seen him do anything close to what PWA do
That is because he is not PWA yet
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That is because he is not PWA yet

What's your point? I've done PWA work and I'm not in the team (I.E all of my reviews/guides that I've posted). So, the fact that he isnt PWA yet is not an excuse.

And let me rephrase my statement..

I meant that he hasnt done anything to show that he would be good for the job. I mean, all I've seen/heard him do is administrate GK and do translations. I dont even think he gets on many servers other then GK/Debug.

Which is why I said "This doesnt seem right."
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What's your point? I've done PWA work and I'm not in the team (I.E all of my reviews/guides that I've posted). So, the fact that he isnt PWA yet is not an excuse.

And let me rephrase my statement..

I meant that he hasnt done anything to show that he would be good for the job. I mean, all I've seen/heard him do is administrate GK and do translations. I dont even think he gets on many servers other then GK/Debug.

Which is why I said "This doesnt seem right."
You could do review that has little effect on anything, yes, but that is about it. I'm talking about the other things, like finding objectional/illegal content. If he tried to tell a playerworld to change something, he'd probably be laughed at (unless he told a PWA member to go and handle the situation, in which case he is only a complainant). None of the other PWA (that I know of) did anything to take a seat in their positions, so I am not sure why Björn would need to go above and beyond. Normally an application would be called for, but he has been working directly under Stefan for a while, so Stefan knows what to expect.
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Old 05-14-2005, 10:41 PM
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You could do review, yes, but that is about it. I'm talking about the other things, like finding objectional/illegal content. If he tried to tell a playerworld to change something, he'd probably be laughed at (unless he told a PWA member to go and handle the situation, in which case he is only a complainant). None of the other PWA (that I know of) did anything to take a seat in their positions, so I am not sure why Björn would need to go above and beyond. Normally an application would be called for, but he has been working directly under Stefan for a while, so Stefan knows what to expect.

No, they havnt done anything, but they have completed an application against like 100 others. Each time PWA's are hired, they are hired like 2 at a time, once every X amount of years. So, you are competing against like 100 others for the position, so the application is very important. So, he's been working under Stefan, so what? Does that mean he gets special priviledges? Well, I guess it does.
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Old 05-14-2005, 09:56 PM
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Old 05-14-2005, 11:59 PM
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Sure it does.

I dont prefer a person individually, I'd just prefer that things be done fairly.
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You have no preference? You don't know of any other budding PWA member that you'd rate higher than Bjorn?
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Maybe he doesn't know who is higher than Bjorn, therefor an application thingy would show who's more worthy? ;o
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Old 05-15-2005, 07:21 AM
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I think Gambet is a bit upset, he wanted to become a PWA through an application. Bjorn just got promoted from his work on GK/Zone.
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I think Gambet is a bit upset, he wanted to become a PWA through an application. Bjorn just got promoted from his work on GK/Zone.

Bjoern doesnt work on Zone. He has RC on Zone because he helped test it when it was newly released. As far as the comment about me wanting to become PWA, you know what really cracks me up? All of my points are valid, so then some less intelligent person, as yourself, comes in and says I'm complaining because I want to be PWA? Honestly, are you intelligent at all? I've given valid reasoning as to why Bjoern wouldnt be suitable for this position, so why would you give such an idiotic comment as such? You really do surprise me.
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As far as the comment about me wanting to become PWA, you know what really cracks me up? All of my points are valid, so then some less intelligent person, as yourself, comes in and says I'm complaining because I want to be PWA?
He didn't say that your points were invalid - he merely commented on your motivations. The two issues are completely separate.
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He didn't say that your points were invalid - he merely commented on your motivations. The two issues are completely separate.

They are not my motivations.
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They are not my motivations.
Declaring yourself more intelligent than your detractor doesn't prove that.
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I've given valid reasoning as to why Bjoern wouldnt be suitable for this position, so why would you give such an idiotic comment as such? You really do surprise me.
It is not on you, or any other player/staff of this game to decide who will become high staff on graal except Stefan and Unixmad! And it is not helpful for Gambet what he said in this thread to become any higher staff, be sure!
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All of my points are valid, so then some less intelligent person, as yourself, comes in and says I'm complaining because I want to be PWA? Honestly, are you intelligent at all?.
I would hope that you don't want to be PWA, as we don't need anymore people who say things like this to the members
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Old 05-15-2005, 07:51 AM
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Applications are insecure aswell. You never know that the "Average Joe" could be some sort of meat head, and get way over himself and do bad things. With Bjoern, he has proven his loyalty, by managing a Gold server. I'm all for the decision, because they know what they are doing up in the Global seats.
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I think the threads a little premature.
As far as I know it was only something being considered/requested.

But part of my response to this when asked

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I'd say GK needs you more :O
We have enough PWA really, well, global staff

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Although I wouldn't object such a decision really, it's just I think we have enough global staff and what I can see (while I admit not much) but some do not really do much as global staff, and there is little point in having more staff with low rights who can't do that much. But like I said, I wouldn't object it, I just think Graal doesn't need more global staff, but having more wouldn't cause that much of a problem I doubt.
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Old 05-15-2005, 11:34 AM
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Your statement makes no sense. How can I declare myself more intelligent than my detractor?
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Your statement makes no sense
No, you're just not very good at English.

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How can I declare myself more intelligent than my detractor?
It is a very simple sentence. Are you sure you know what the words 'declare' and 'detractor' mean?
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No, you're just not very good at English.



It is a very simple sentence. Are you sure you know what the words 'declare' and 'detractor' mean?


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1. To draw or take away; divert: They could detract little from so solid an argument.
2. Archaic. To speak ill of; belittle.


Makes no sense at all.
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Makes no sense at all.
You actually gave the definition of the word 'detract'. If you try really hard, you may be able to extrapolate from there and figure out what a detractor is.

Here's a general rule for you: If you need to look up a word in a dictionary, you're not yet ready to be challenging somebody else on its usage. Curb your arrogance, boy.
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Detractor (sorry didnt notice I gave Detract):

one who disparages or belittles the worth of something


Once again, how can I say that I'm more intelligent than my detractor x-x
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one who disparages or belittles the worth of something

Once again, how can I say that I'm more intelligent than my detractor x-x
Like this:

"so then some less intelligent person, as yourself, comes in and says I'm complaining because I want to be PWA?"

Within this context, Snakeandy is your detractor. You declared that you were more intelligent than him. How can I make this any simpler?
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Once again, I say "less intelligent" so that I dont use any other blatant words/phrases. I was putting it in nice terms.
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Once again, I say "less intelligent" so that I dont use any other blatant words/phrases. I was putting it in nice terms.
Uh, okay. How does this change the fact that you claimed to be more intelligent than him?
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Uh, okay. How does this change the fact that you claimed to be more intelligent than him?

Because if I used more blatant words/phrases then it would change the meaning.

EDIT: I don't mean to say that I'm more intelligent then anyone. I was being courteous and decided to leave it at that. I didn't think it would start such commotion >.>

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Because if I used more blatant words/phrases then it would change the meaning
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I don't mean to say that I'm more intelligent
What do you think the words "less intelligent" mean?
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What do you think the words "less intelligent" mean?

I used it generally. Sort of like saying how Kai is more intelligent then Gambet. It wasnt direct as in saying the people less intelligent then me, but the less intelligent bunch of players compared to others.
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Well, I never planned on arguing about this in particular. Anyways, I'll quote what I said in another thread

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I dont claim to be more intelligent then anyone. I say the less educated/intelligent folk, but that doesnt mean that they are less educated/intelligent then myself. You are all taking this in the wrong way just so you can argue with me. If I say "Billy Joe is not very intelligent", well, that doesnt mean that he's less intelligent then me, it just means that he's not very intelligent. It's like, if I call Henry short, yet Henry is two inches taller then I am. It doesnt mean that he's shorter then me, but he is short. Sorry for the confusion.
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