Recent N-Pulse happenings

ThinkDifferent · #1 01-08-2005, 03:46 AM

Well as some of you might know, the two managers and an accomplice (Rai, Zido, and Frost) deleted everything on N-Pulse. Why did they do this? They knew they were being removed from N-Pulse and Moonie was becoming owner. Well all of that happened and while the server is shut down all of the loyal players to N-Pulse would like to raise the question, "Why Moonie"? Why might we say this? Read on.
Out of this corrupt group, 1 admin remaned, his name Unknown Mirage. He has been working on N-pulse for a while now and has held his own weight, as well as gained trust and respect from the people of N-Pulse. Now, with the exception of GroWlZ, the PWA have blindly overlooked him as a candidate for the N-Pulse manager.
I personally do not see why somebody who quit as manager, showing they could not hold the weight of it, come back. Moonie has been staff on npulse numerous times and it has resulted in her quitting every time. I, as well as most of N-Pulse, believe UM deserved the spot as Manager.
"USE FORUM PM" or "WE DON'T CARE" statments might be made. But I have tried using AIM, and only when providing proof of my accusation do I get blocked, or sign off on (You know who you are).
I strongly suggest, to the PWA, or to whoever it may concern, that you at least talk to UM and in doing that, you will see why he would be the perfect candidate for N-Pulse. None of us want Moonie's chaotic and low playercount reign again. UM has ideas, and he can execute them (As moonie only does levels and I believe he does everything).
Moonie, you might read this, and I want to say, this is NOT a personal attack on you. Myself, along with loyal players of N-Pulse, just feel it more necessary to have UM as manager. And if, the "bad" should happen and you do become manager, you will have my support, but it would be nice to see UM as a co - manager. Please don't close this thread either

Thanks
Morph Loxeus / Joker / ThinkDifferent

Nitkizi · #2 01-08-2005, 04:38 AM

Unknown Mirage..what is his account name? I think he was staff at SL at one time..

ThinkDifferent · #3 01-08-2005, 04:49 AM

I believe it is "Inspiration"

Malinko · #4 01-08-2005, 04:56 AM

I knew something like this would happen with Zido.

Inspiration · #5 01-08-2005, 04:57 AM

Never worked on SL, might have been another mirage.

I really don't like how the PWA went right past me even though I was Admin there, I was never spoken to or consulted, nor was I a part of what Zido and Rai did. Oh well, let's see what happens.

DarkShadows_Legend · #6 01-08-2005, 05:03 AM

Inspiration deserved a shot, but its hard to tell who was involved with that group. There was certainly more than just those 3 you mentioned involved with the corruption on there the past few months.

Moonie deserves a shot too. Maybe she learned from her past mistakes and will lead the server in a better direction this time around.

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Unknown Mirage..what is his account name? I think he was staff at SL at one time..

Unknown Mirage, Inspiration are some of his names. You might remember him best as Xaviour Chill from classic/UN.

Blitz_Hunter · #7 01-08-2005, 05:09 AM

Hmm, for some reason this doesn't surprise me.

ThinkDifferent · #8 01-08-2005, 05:09 AM

I am very doubtful UM was apart of the "Corrupt Gang".

Inspiration · #9 01-08-2005, 05:26 AM

I was out to dinner when it happened, and I came back to Messages on AIM about N-Pulse being deleted and Moonie being manager.
Every time I go out to dinner, something bad happens!

Malinko · #10 01-08-2005, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThinkDifferent

Now, with the exception of GroWlZ, the PWA have blindly overlooked him as a candidate for the N-Pulse manager.

I do not think GrowlZ is like that. GrowlZ carefully looks into the problem before making a decision, that is a fact.

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I personally do not see why somebody who quit as manager, showing they could not hold the weight of it, come back. Moonie has been staff on npulse numerous times and it has resulted in her quitting every time. I, as well as most of N-Pulse, believe UM deserved the spot as Manager.

Maybe cause they want to move on and play the playerworld themself? Of course, many people have other things to do. She still is infact loyal to N-Pulse up to today.

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I strongly suggest, to the PWA, or to whoever it may concern, that you at least talk to UM and in doing that, you will see why he would be the perfect candidate for N-Pulse. None of us want Moonie's chaotic and low playercount reign again. UM has ideas, and he can execute them (As moonie only does levels and I believe he does everything).

I only see you arguing about the point of Moonie. Maybe if other people have posted against her, then this would be a different subject. Moonie may do levels, but she does have experience as Manager. Inspiration/UnknownMirage does levels too. I don't think he scripts. He does little graphics and ganis from what I know.

Also, learn some better use of grammar.

Blitz_Hunter · #11 01-08-2005, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

I was out to dinner when it happened, and I came back to Messages on AIM about N-Pulse being deleted and Moonie being manager.
Every time I go out to dinner, something bad happens!

Same here. I log off N-pulse RC for a tops of 2 hours and come back to this. LOL

ThinkDifferent · #12 01-08-2005, 05:45 AM

Better use of grammar? Point of out to me where I was wrong in my grammatical usage? "Also, learn some better use of grammar". Learn to make your sentence make sense. The fact is, the loyal players of N-Pulse really do not want Moonie as manager, we all had a BIIGGG chat. But if she becomes manager best of luck to her.

ApothiX · #13 01-08-2005, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ThinkDifferent

Point of out to me where I was wrong in my grammatical usage?

*cough*

Inspiration · #14 01-08-2005, 06:51 AM

Honestly I really don't know though.
Could I manage the server? Yes.
Do I believe I could "fix" N-Pulse? Yes.
Do I believe making Moonie Manager over me like this is wrong? Yes.

All the new content on NP over the last few months has been thanks to me. I've worked hard as hell there, and now that this has happened, I'm very discouraged.

I told Rai before that if Zido was to quit or be removed, I'd leave the server, due to the fact that hes our only scripter. However, now, with all of this, N-Pulse will be hitting its worst times, everyones looking to me for answers, and right now I don't have them.

Moonie had her chance as manager of N-Pulse before, and I think I deserve mine, I've worked my way there.

Basically my feelings are, I'm willing to work WITH Moonie, but I don't want to work for her.

I was next in line, I'm more than capable, and I'm willing to give the server one final shot now.

It just seems to me like placing Moonie there, who was just recently hired by me, instead of me as manager, is wrong. I believe I deserve my chance like anyone else does, and if I fail, its all Moonies.

CasanovaCanavi · #15 01-08-2005, 06:57 AM

I agree.. Moonie has had her shot. Let someone else run the damn server..
I vote for UM, cause he's just awesome.. Alot of people would be happy with him as manager.

DarkShadows_Legend · #16 01-08-2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

Honestly I really don't know though.
I told Rai before that if Zido was to quit or be removed, I'd leave the server, due to the fact that hes our only scripter. However, now, with all of this, N-Pulse will be hitting its worst times, everyones looking to me for answers, and right now I don't have them.

Zido wouldn't hire anyone that scripted better than him. I'm pretty sure you or Moonie would find the scripting help you would need.

Van · #17 01-08-2005, 07:25 AM

You know if you could film the drama that happens with the N-Pulse Staff you could probably get a shabby version of the TV Series - Melrose Place. Whose sleeping with who each week to get what staff position and, whose got the dagger in whose back the next. The reason N-Pulse has been so hard fought over is simply that the server is/was on the classic tab. I think a lot of us have seen how most hosted servers fail to attract players. N-Pulse being on the classic tab was simply just too good an opportunity to pass up.

It's tiring to watch the constant fighting, I think N-Pulse has gone through more owners then most other servers its size. The enthusiam associated with each new owner and Admin dies out when things appear to not changed. Viewing this at the end, change was probably inevitable. I mean the LAT Chief was filling in levels that no one wanted and most of the Development Team lost interest/starting stuffing around. Even Player Killing - one of the staple pastimes on N-Pulse was inadvertedly ruined with the changes.

This is not to say the changes weren't desired by the players but the changes were simply being outdone by the past levels which have become second nature to the players. For example level2.graal (the N-Pulse main level) and nemsparmain.graal (the Sparring Facility). There we're attempts to replace both with new levels and although the players liked them, they didn't go to them simply because they we're just too used to the old.

In the end it doesn't really matter who is going to be Manager of the server. If they keep on following the same tired old ways then the server will continue to be as it is until the thinking changes. I think thats why a lot of people are against Moonie taking charge again because we all know what happened during Moon God's tenure as Manager and they don't want that same sort of thing to happen again. I'm not saying that Moonie will be like that if she's Manager but its the way some people percieve it. unknownmirage on the other hand has a lot of optimism but is untried at the highest position.

Nappa · #18 01-08-2005, 07:59 AM

I'd like to know how they decided she would be manager ?

CasanovaCanavi · #19 01-08-2005, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nappa

I'd like to know how they decided she would be manager ?

BECAUSE SHE WANTS IT BACK!!!

Nappa · #20 01-08-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CasanovaCanavi

BECAUSE SHE WANTS IT BACK!!!

OH NO'ZZZ!!

No seriously. If she gets this job, then that has to be the most serious case of suck up to higher powers that I have ever seen in my entire life. Their are people in front of you in line, sister.

ETD · #21 01-08-2005, 09:38 AM

Gesh, just send N-Pulse to be private, till it gets it's act together, and some new and origional content. If it can pass a PWA test to go classic again, more power to the server... but I doubt it could.

Sky · #22 01-08-2005, 10:15 AM

wasnt the best manager there but hey what happends happends i guess?

Snakeandy7 · #23 01-08-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

Never worked on SL, might have been another mirage.

I really don't like how the PWA went right past me even though I was Admin there, I was never spoken to or consulted, nor was I a part of what Zido and Rai did. Oh well, let's see what happens.

Pretty much the same with me, with Era of cause.

WanDaMan · #24 01-08-2005, 11:04 AM

I think Moonie will do great as manager, shes already prooved to me that she can do it.

HunterElkow · #25 01-08-2005, 11:17 AM

ive worked with U.M when he was still LAT Admin, i worked under him as LAT.

i think he should be Manager.
during the time he was LAT Admin,

1> the Team worked alot harder.
2> a entire new World got made.

i actually had fun working under him, and thats the first time i had fun working under somebody. i learnt alot of leveling thanks to him.

amen.

Van · #26 01-08-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ETD

Gesh, just send N-Pulse to be private, till it gets it's act together, and some new and origional content. If it can pass a PWA test to go classic again, more power to the server... but I doubt it could.

Thats not the point at all. Even in its half baked state, N-Pulse still pulls a moderate share of the players. What is needed is stable leadership so it can improve.

Lance · #27 01-08-2005, 11:25 AM

This has certainly been a pathetic set of actions.

haro41 · #28 01-08-2005, 11:28 AM

If he UM worked hard for the server, he obviously has some great ideas, and the players favor him over Moonie, and Moonie has failed previously, then why the heck isnt UM the manager?

Hunter's testimonial is defenitely a strong point in favor of UM.

Kaimetsu · #29 01-08-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

Every time I go out to dinner, something bad happens!

To be fair, it's a pretty original superpower.

Emily_Cruddas · #30 01-08-2005, 01:46 PM

Just stop struggling with servers that die, I'm so sick of a playerworld that has low playercount in the first place trying to make a comeback, just work on a server with someone else like Maloria or classic, i don't know....it's just getting dull now to see everyone with all these skills not trying out for other playerworlds.

If these folks are as awsome managers as you say, i don't think they would have much trouble getting a staff spot on a different server, that or they just don't take action to do so.

Snakeandy7 · #31 01-08-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Emily_Cruddas

Just stop struggling with servers that die, I'm so sick of a playerworld that has low playercount in the first place trying to make a comeback, just work on a server with someone else like Maloria or classic, i don't know....it's just getting dull now to see everyone with all these skills not trying out for other playerworlds.

If these folks are as awsome managers as you say, i don't think they would have much trouble getting a staff spot on a different server, that or they just don't take action to do so.

I totally dis-agree :[

JudgeDurst · #32 01-08-2005, 02:58 PM

Maloria was dying with low playercounts while we were working on v2... If we just gave up it would never have even been released in this early beta stage and gotten all the players we do now. Whether we can keep the numbers up or not is an entirely different matter...

Malinko · #33 01-08-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

Could I manage the server? Yes.
Do I believe I could "fix" N-Pulse? Yes.
Do I believe making Moonie Manager over me like this is wrong? Yes.

Could you manage the server? Yes.
Do you believe you could "fix" N-Pulse? A lot of people do.
Could you manage the server? You probably could, but you do need some help. No offense, you are a good guy with some nice ideas, but you really need to take action when you see something rather than not say anything about it.

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All the new content on NP over the last few months has been thanks to me. I've worked hard as hell there, and now that this has happened, I'm very discouraged.

You should have a backup...if not, >_>.

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I told Rai before that if Zido was to quit or be removed, I'd leave the server, due to the fact that hes our only scripter. However, now, with all of this, N-Pulse will be hitting its worst times, everyones looking to me for answers, and right now I don't have them.

Why would you quit because of Zido? N-Pulse already hated him, besides like a few people. He did no development that was public to the playerworld for more than six months. You have no reason to leave, but to go more into N-Pulse and find more people. You will gain more experience as a Manager if you see what it takes to find staff that want to work with you.

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Moonie had her chance as manager of N-Pulse before, and I think I deserve mine, I've worked my way there.

Why would it matter? If you really want N-Pulse to be successful, then you will do what's good for it, Manager or not.

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Basically my feelings are, I'm willing to work WITH Moonie, but I don't want to work for her.

Very true, I would think you two should be Manager together. Co-Managers, not some Asst. positions. Would be better for N-Pulse.

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I was next in line, I'm more than capable, and I'm willing to give the server one final shot now.

One final shot? Don't say that, you will end up like some of the playerworlds that have gave one "final shot" and they won't come back. (Babylon and Enigma)

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It just seems to me like placing Moonie there, who was just recently hired by me, instead of me as manager, is wrong. I believe I deserve my chance like anyone else does, and if I fail, its all Moonies.

Compromise about it.

I think you should really touch up your overworld you made with Moonie (as Managers together) and release what you have ready for N-Pulse. Even if you release half the overworld with plenty of things to do, you can release more later, and it will provide your players with updates. Many will think you will keep adding things to do, thus they will say (if it's good). Look at Maloria, they are owning.

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Originally Posted by DarkShadows_Legend

Zido wouldn't hire anyone that scripted better than him.

Hahaha, he wouldn't hire anyone that was a threat to his job.

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Originally Posted by ETD

Gesh, just send N-Pulse to be private, till it gets it's act together, and some new and origional content. If it can pass a PWA test to go classic again, more power to the server... but I doubt it could.

That's probably what will happen. I doubt it would come out again too if they don't get plenty of work done that is good and fast. Though, you have to agree, the public playerworld list is going down. Enigma was removed, Babylon was removed, Delteria was removed for a short while, and now N-Pulse? No new playerworlds have been released at all, kinda sad. (Besides Zone, which doesn't count since it's gold.)

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Originally Posted by HunterElkow

ive worked with U.M when he was still LAT Admin, i worked under him as LAT.

i think he should be Manager.
during the time he was LAT Admin,

1> the Team worked alot harder.
2> a entire new World got made.

i actually had fun working under him, and thats the first time i had fun working under somebody. i learnt alot of leveling thanks to him.

amen.

You may have helped make a overworld with him, but I don't think any of it was release or was ready to be released. So what fun does that do for players?

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Originally Posted by Lance

This has certainly been a pathetic set of actions.

Agreed.

Darlene159 · #34 01-08-2005, 03:48 PM

I went to the Globals several days ago, because I knew something was going to happen. At the time, it appeared that U.M didnt even want to work on NP because he was all part of what I reported to the PWA. Note, I said "appeared".
I was asked if I would Manage NP again, I did not plan a takeover or anything like that, however, I did know that this was going to happen eventually, and all I could do was continue to report things that I saw.

I do not believe that U.M was part of what was done, and I do agree that he has done alot of work for NP in the last few months, as well as in the past.
Some of you say that I failed NP when I was Manager, I do not believe I failed. To fail would be to do what the trio just did to NP, to fail would be to walk away and not care, to fail would have been not to notice things were not right when I was Manager, and to not step down and let someone else try. I did none of these things, therefore I did not fail.
I have learned alot just being a player for NP for the past what...year? In that time, I was mostly a player, but I did work as a gp at one time, because I was needed, then was asked to be a lat, because that was needed more.
Anyway, when I was asked to be LAT Chief, I had serious reservations about it because I cannot work with Zido (with good reason), but I ended up taking the job because I wanted to help NP. That gave me the chance to see what was really going on, on RC, within staff...and it made me sick quite honestly.

I am not here to take anything away from anyone, like I said given RC history, I didnt even think UM was interested in being Manager, and never even thought of it. That is what happens when you give off the appearance that you are right there with your buddies when they are being complete idiots.

Maybe UM does deserve the chance to Manage, I dont know....but I do know that I do not want to see what happened last night to NP, happen again....ever.

I believe that the globals should talk to UM, and make their decision. This is not a question of who knows who, it is a question of who is best for the job of Manager.

Inspiration · #35 01-08-2005, 03:52 PM

You mis-read a lot of things that I said. I'm discouraged because of how hard I've worked, and then when it came time to remove Zido, I was completely over-looked as next choice for manager. I do have some backups of the server.

When I said "one final shot" I meant it not as the servers final shot, by my final shot to help it for now.

If Moonie is manager, yes maybe we can work something out, and I plan to try to. But before the final call is made, I'd like the PWA to at least talk to me, look at what I've done, and then make the choice.

Snakeandy7 · #36 01-08-2005, 03:57 PM

I don't see why they don't give you a chance. No offence to Moonie but you had a shot at N-Pulse and then quit.

Malinko · #37 01-08-2005, 03:58 PM

Of course, "final shot" doesn't motivate people, everyone is like, "LAST TRY FOR N-PULSE!"

We all know Moonie and U.M. should just manage together, would be for the best.

Darlene159 · #38 01-08-2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

You mis-read a lot of things that I said. I'm discouraged because of how hard I've worked, and then when it came time to remove Zido, I was completely over-looked as next choice for manager. I do have some backups of the server.

When I said "one final shot" I meant it not as the servers final shot, by my final shot to help it for now.

If Moonie is manager, yes maybe we can work something out, and I plan to try to. But before the final call is made, I'd like the PWA to at least talk to me, look at what I've done, and then make the choice.

I mean no offense, but you make it sound like if you dont become Manager, you can no longer help NP.
you were not overloooked, you gave off the air that you no longer wanted to work for NP when you joined zido and Rai in talking about how wonderful "that other game" was, and how we should all go play it..
That is what I thought at the time, and maybe that is what the globals thought also...whether or not that is true....*shrugs*
But I do agree that the decision should not be based on one day on RC, it should be based on everything as a whole...the work you have done, your attitude, the way you work with staff, the way you converse with the players, how well you manage the staff, how well you manage the server, and so on.....

Choices should be made to help NP, it doesnt matter who is "next in line"
If the pwa feel that you are a good choice for manager, I am fine with that...it appears that the players are with you, so maybe it is what is best for NP.

Snakeandy: why dont you stop saying I "quit" I never gave up on NP...I stepped down to let someone else try at managing because of many factors...being a player for awhile after managing made me learn many things...but I never gave up....

Inspiration · #39 01-08-2005, 04:21 PM

That other game is fun, but like I said, if I didnt want to work on N-Pulse, I'd quit.

I can't help N-Pulse anymore working under other peoples ideas, I've been doing that forever, and in the end it never comes out to a good result. I have my own ideas and my own perspective of what's best, and It's a lot different than anything N-Pulse has had over the last years and last few managers. If you're willing to work with my ideas and let me try what I want without stopping me, only offering advice,as I told you I'd let you do if you worked under me, I think we can peacefully co-manage. If it comes down to where I'm your "worker" and doing your plans and what you say, no, I'm no longer interested in working that way.

Darlene159 · #40 01-08-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

That other game is fun, but like I said, if I didnt want to work on N-Pulse, I'd quit.

I can't help N-Pulse anymore working under other peoples ideas, I've been doing that forever, and in the end it never comes out to a good result. I have my own ideas and my own perspective of what's best, and It's a lot different than anything N-Pulse has had over the last years and last few managers. If you're willing to work with my ideas and let me try what I want without stopping me, only offering advice,as I told you I'd let you do if you worked under me, I think we can peacefully co-manage. If it comes down to where I'm your "worker" and doing your plans and what you say, no, I'm no longer interested in working that way.

*shrugs*
The players are what matter...not you, not me....if the players get what they want (within limits), they will be happy, and NP will grow...
I would never say if I didnt become Manager, I would give up...even though the staff for a long time didnt give a rats patute what I had to say, I was still there, and I have no idea why...
the players run Graal, without them, Graal is nothing....

I will always be for NP, no matter what.
I have nothing more to say on this subject, it is up to higher ups now, and I will go with whatever they decide, and STILL be there for NP all the way....