Global staff -- Take off some of the job

LegendaryTsukasa · #1 05-24-2004, 03:32 AM

I have thought up a new way to give Graal, some good additions to helping players and servers, while also taking off some of the job for the PWs.

Global Graal Police

This would be, sort of like the Playerworld Team, but would be less to do, and focused more on Playerworlds that have already been out. For example:

In the real world, countries (Servers) have their own Police. Then there is the UN that helps that staff do more/better jobs (GGP) and then there is on Graal, an even higher staff that acts like police, but also goes through the UC servers and can do basically a lot more.

With GGP, you could take off some of the jobs that the small PW Team has to deal with, such as: Hackers servers cannot deal with, Curropt staff, and any general problems with servers or players, etc.

I have already made this guild, and have found, so far two pretty good members. Now, on the fourms, I know that many, if not all, think that I am not a very good person, in general. Wrong

I actually wish to help Graal in many ways, and I just thought up a way to help.

I hope that this might pass, however, all I can do is support what I think is a good idea.

Thank you for your time.

DeFord · #2 05-24-2004, 03:36 AM

Not a bad idea...

XJOKERX · #3 05-24-2004, 03:41 AM

Sounds good, make me police ...now

LegendaryTsukasa · #4 05-24-2004, 03:43 AM

xD

I'm not the one who just, picks random people actually.

Example: The two members I have found, are people who have GP Experience and do a good, non-curropt job at it. I actually look into these things. Not pick anybody.

Good that some people already think it's a good idea though.

Phayze · #5 05-24-2004, 03:44 AM

and who deals with the corrupt Global Graal Police officers?

DeFord · #6 05-24-2004, 03:46 AM

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and who deals with the corrupt Global Graal Police officers?

Good point.

Scott · #7 05-24-2004, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phayze

and who deals with the corrupt Global Graal Police officers?

Game Master?

LegendaryTsukasa · #8 05-24-2004, 03:51 AM

Mostly, you tey not to hire currupt people for the job.

but if by chance it happens, higher up staff would take care of it, or the Admin at that time would. Unless it is the Admin, in which you look too higher staff.

It would be delt with.

LordZen · #9 05-24-2004, 03:59 AM

Has the guild been accepted? If so, it shouldnt have been.

Using the word global in a global guild tag is unacceptable unless given special permission, even for the global staff tags.

edit: Plus I doubt simply creating the guild through the regular process would merit the creation of an administrative organization supported by GraalOnline.

Its a good idea tho..

LegendaryTsukasa · #10 05-24-2004, 04:01 AM

Yes, guild has been accepted. It's in Pending...

It has the words Global in it. o_o

But thats not the point.

Scott · #11 05-24-2004, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LordZen

Has the guild been accepted? If so, it shouldnt have been.

Using the word global in a global guild tag is unacceptable unless given special permission, even for the global staff tags.

Where do these rules come from?
Also, I don't think this guild/group should become official. Just like that previous thread about some kind of Global PW Helpers thing, it's for people who want power.

The Global structure is fine the way it is.

LegendaryTsukasa · #12 05-24-2004, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott

Where do these rules come from?
Also, I don't think this guild/group should become official. Just like that previous thread about some kind of Global PW Helpers thing, it's for people who want power.

The Global structure is fine the way it is.

I'm not suggesting that staff be removed or anything. But some normal players cannot find a small team of PWs, because they do not know about the fourm and what-not. GGP, just takes off some of the job that the PWs would have. It's hard for a small team of 4-5 people, to help out entire servers right? A secondary team under the PWs, would just help.

LordZen · #13 05-24-2004, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott

Where do these rules come from?
Also, I don't think this guild/group should become official. Just like that previous thread about some kind of Global PW Helpers thing, it's for people who want power.

The Global structure is fine the way it is.

Well it was a process I had to go through once apon a time. KA told me he was not allowed to create a guild that had the word "global" in it unless I got permission from Stefan or Unixmad, etc. Stefan OK'd it in the end.

That word is not specifically off limits, its the generality that certain names might cause the misconception that you hold some sort of position when in fact you do not. Its to prevent people from abusing that misconception to give off desired impressions on various playerworlds.

And, Tsukasa, I just checked the guild database...and your guild has not been accepted, its still in pending status. Did you get confused by my question?

LegendaryTsukasa · #14 05-24-2004, 04:12 AM

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And, Tsukasa, I just checked the guild database...and your guild has not been accepted, its still in pending status. Did you get confused by my question?

Yeah. It is still in pending. I am trying to get it Oked by Staff here, by also giving my reasons through the fourms.

Leasure-13 · #15 05-24-2004, 04:19 AM

I like the idea, and think that it would help the PW team. Although if you are waiting on it from stefan or Unixmad you may be waiting for awhile. They are busy people and it just may take some time.

LegendaryTsukasa · #16 05-24-2004, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Leasure-13

I like the idea, and think that it would help the PW team. Although if you are waiting on it from stefan or Unixmad you may be waiting for awhile. They are busy people and it just may take some time.

True that. I'm hoping someone other than they can permit Globals, but if not I can PM them or send some E-mails. No biggy really.

Lance · #17 05-24-2004, 09:00 AM

No.
No.
No.

Birdbird_0 · #18 05-24-2004, 10:56 AM

If you want to be a "Police" on a server, feel free to play a large amount of your time there then maybe, apply for a job of the type?

Think about what you're asking; don't try and find a free RC pass.
Every server has their own version of police, those don't need to be aided- if the server management can't take care of a situation (the "who polices the police" situation) a GM takes care of this.

Now think about the Global title, how many playerworlds are there and how many have more then 50 on at one time, 2-4 servers? And guess where that global team is going to spend most of their time on (You guessed it right, those 2-4 servers)

so in agreement to lance

Hell no.

Spark910 · #19 05-24-2004, 11:28 AM

There are not that many problems on the playerworlds currently, the playerworld team can handle it and if it couldn't we'd hire more.

VeX_RaT_Boy · #20 05-24-2004, 12:48 PM

If there ever was going to be such a thing, which I think is stupid when we have a PW team, why did YOU point yourself out as a leader LegendaryTsukasa?

I know the answer: Global RC.

Darlene159 · #21 05-24-2004, 02:24 PM

Not needed, simple as that...

Loriel · #22 05-24-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

There are not that many problems on the playerworlds currently, the playerworld team can handle it and if it couldn't we'd hire more.

(ph34r GST)

WanDaMan · #23 05-24-2004, 02:33 PM

they do need some globalls who actually play classic servers, and not the servers they work on..

gst -busy scripting away like rabbits humping
pwa -very busy with playerworlds
gm -busy in rl and era
ggt -dead?

o.O, No offence dudes and dudessess

thrashsoul · #24 05-24-2004, 03:02 PM

No offence the globals are as helpful as a rock.

WanDaMan · #25 05-24-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thrashsoul

No offence the globals are as helpful as a rock.

I tend to differ, eventhough you don't see them play graal or anything, if you contact them over AIM/MSN or any other program they tend to do their best to help.. In some ways which you may not see..

Spark910 · #26 05-24-2004, 04:23 PM

It depends really, some are busy and get asked more things and say 'e-mail me' but that player doesn't so they forget and don't do it. Its best to e-mail all the time, as then they have a copy of it to remind them over and over to do it.

And I am going to, after my exams, attempt to improve how helpful the PWA is to playerworlds and improve it but I can't really until then, but there are alot of Playerworlds vs Playerworld Administration Members, which will also change.

Loriel · #27 05-24-2004, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thrashsoul

No offence the globals are as helpful as a rock.

Well, rocks can be quite helpful. You can make primitive tools and weapons out of them, and some can be used to light fires, I think.
Also you could use them as a raw material to craft a house out of, or perhaps some kind of defensive structure. Or if you want to be more active, use them as projectiles, maybe even for catapults (catapults have to be crafted with other materials though, I think).

LegendaryTsukasa · #28 05-24-2004, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VeX_RaT_Boy

If there ever was going to be such a thing, which I think is stupid when we have a PW team, why did YOU point yourself out as a leader LegendaryTsukasa?

I know the answer: Global RC.

I'm not currupt

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

they do need some globalls who actually play classic servers, and not the servers they work on..

gst -busy scripting away like rabbits humping
pwa -very busy with playerworlds
gm -busy in rl and era
ggt -dead?

o.O, No offence dudes and dudessess

Basically, what he said. Many Globals do not actually play the Playerworlds. I've only really seen them on GraalKingdoms. Plus, many of them, are as Spark said, away. Since they are away, put some others in as a secondary source of help.

Example: I started playing Delteria since, Doomsday went down and Babylon sucks, and I eventually became a FAQ Cadet for some odd reason. While on tag, all I can do at that point of answer PMs and such. As I have found out, most questions, ask about differen't UC servers, or where to find a PW. I usally answer with a link to the Forums, but usally they still get stuck. So then ask about finding contact information. I send it to them, and everythings fine as far as that goes. But, then they do not get answered (If they get answered at all) until around 4-5 weeks later. Then they would come on, and basically yell at me for ever trying to send them to a PW (Even if they asked for the contact information.) and tell me off etc. etc.

As I understand it, there is about 2 GMs, and 4PWs including Spark. (If wrong let me know.) Within this small team, maybe one of you (Houdini) actually goes onto the Playerworlds (Houdini tries to spar on NPulse, but fails miserably

) and even when they are on, it is usally only for a short period of time. I know you all have lives out-side of Graal, and if you didn't, then I pity you. But, because none of you actually play the servers, how can you help out many of the players there? Thats why I think a good, secondary Global Police would be a good idea. Since, there would only be people who actually play the playerworlds (Say, at least 1-2 from each server to make it even, or something around the lines of people who play each server) and have experience in dealing with players. Not getting formal e-mails (Not to say that none of the PW/GM have delt with players directly, but it really seems as if you don't

)

Really, the only thing that would hold back this Team is, "It's not needed because we think you just want power and rights and because there are Pws already and if we need we get more but if we don't need more then we won't want more because if we wanted more we would hire them and it certainly would not be you or someone else supporting this because we do not feel that we need more because we really think that we don't need more because we don't."

That's basically only your opinion. Ask in Large Mass Messages to actually players who have never heard of the fourms. They think it's a good idea.

Crono · #29 05-24-2004, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance

No.
No.
No.

What he said and this just calls for more people in power which we all hate. WE DONT WANT A GLOBAL POLICE, DONT TURN THIS INTO BIG BROTHER >:O!

Oh and Tsu, can you please, stop, typing like this, please?

-stresses the comas-

LegendaryTsukasa · #30 05-24-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

What he said and this just calls for more people in power which we all hate. WE DONT WANT A GLOBAL POLICE, DONT TURN THIS INTO BIG BROTHER >:O!

Oh and Tsu, can you please, stop, typing like this, please?

-stresses the comas-

Haha, no, I really, cannot, because I happen, to really, like the commas, I think, they are, really Neat-O,

Read above.

HoudiniMan · #31 05-24-2004, 05:46 PM

I remember this idea coming up at least two times before in the past... Same name, even... It was determined that the potential for corruption far outweighed the benefit of having them, and that the benefit was very little in general.

LegendaryTsukasa · #32 05-24-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

I remember this idea coming up at least two times before in the past... Same name, even... It was determined that the potential for corruption far outweighed the benefit of having them, and that the benefit was very little in general.

That's all just the picking of the right members. People have screwed up before. As I have said before, the two other people I have asked to support, and people who have experience being GPs.

As Stanislav said (He is one of the two members) "There is corruption in all servers. GGP would basically just be GPs on all servers. PW deals with a lot more on GK then and UC servers getting passed. GGP would deal with corruption of staff, not being able to ban players, etc."

thrashsoul · #33 05-24-2004, 06:05 PM

Most of the Globals except Loriel are biast, they help there friends with things but leave everyone else to email , PM and IM them a billion times. I tried to get unbanned on kingdoms because my account was hacked, I have waited a year, I got a reply from Tyhm who said to ask someone else. No one else replied.

Spark910 · #34 05-24-2004, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thrashsoul

Most of the Globals except Loriel are biast, they help there friends with things but leave everyone else to email , PM and IM them a billion times. I tried to get unbanned on kingdoms because my account was hacked, I have waited a year, I got a reply from Tyhm who said to ask someone else. No one else replied.

Tyhm is not GK staff, so thats a fair request.
And whats wrong with e-mail?

LegendaryTsukasa · #35 05-24-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

Tyhm is not GK staff, so thats a fair request.
And whats wrong with e-mail?

Most people in the PW or other staff, do not respond to E-mails.

Again, this supports my idea of GGP who mostly would do things on the playerworlds directly.

AlkarenHyralt · #36 05-24-2004, 06:12 PM

Let the fallen one..impart some words of knowledge.

There was once a group who was like this. But they were very poor at their job. They were very corrupt, as many people cannot handle power. And overall, it was one of the worst failures of a global postion.

They were known as HR.

LegendaryTsukasa · #37 05-24-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AlkarenHyralt

Let the fallen one..impart some words of knowledge.

There was once a group who was like this. But they were very poor at their job. They were very corrupt, as many people cannot handle power. And overall, it was one of the worst failures of a global postion.

They were known as HR.

Again, a lack of picking up good members. You pick who you choose. You do not pick just anybody.

Spark910 · #38 05-24-2004, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryTsukasa

Again, a lack of picking up good members. You pick who you choose. You do not pick just anybody.

I highly doubt they picked just anyone last time...

LegendaryTsukasa · #39 05-24-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

I highly doubt they picked just anyone last time...

They were probably UN retards.

<Insert-Some-UN-name-Here> -GGP- Mass Message: RECRUITING FOR GLOBAL GRAAL POLICE! PM ME FOR APPLICATION!!!

AlkarenHyralt · #40 05-24-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryTsukasa

They were probably UN retards.

<Insert-Some-UN-name-Here> -GGP- Mass Message: RECRUITING FOR GLOBAL GRAAL POLICE! PM ME FOR APPLICATION!!!

Human resources or HR was not just anyone. It was NightFall, Nemesis and Contego.

This global police idea is stupid just like HR was. It'll only breed further corruption/friends-only jobs.