Multiple Setshapes?

[jake13jake]

No, not a question, more of a suggestion... It would be nice if you could just add <<setshape# x,y,width,height,type>>.... so that way you could set a shape more easily around some showimgs... make it so you wouldn't be so tempted to put so many different NPCs for so many of the same purposes in one level, you know? especially with showimgs.

[DIABLO2099]

Hm, aren't showimgs normally used for display purposes rather than interacting with the player other than visually?

[zokemon]

No?
Look at a Menu GUI o_O

[Dach]

Originally Posted by zokemon

No?
Look at a Menu GUI o_O

that has nothing to do with this suggestion

Give some examples of usage with this, I hate it when people dis an idea because they can't think of anything to do with it

[billybob256]

acctually, multiple setshapes is a great idea, because i make houses out of ganis, and have to use setshape for every one, and for castles i have to use about 5.

It would really reduce lag but how would you select the NPCs in the level editor?

[jake13jake]

Ex. I was working on Classic's boat NPC, some people told me that I should keep the boat's shape, but I wanted to make it so I only need one class, and I did everything but the actual tickettaker as a showimg. If I wanted to make it so nobody could swim under the boat, I would have to make a setshape.

Also, this would probably be the most practical use for it.. let's say you wanted to have an NPC so that the player could walk partially behind/under it... like the back of a tree, a sign, or a picnic table... you could do the setshape at x+1 instead of having it be at X. There could be a lot of uses for this.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by billybob256

acctually, multiple setshapes is a great idea, because i make houses out of ganis, and have to use setshape for every one, and for castles i have to use about 5.

It would really reduce lag but how would you select the NPCs in the level editor?

Put the setshape in the gani...?

Originally Posted by jake13jake

Ex. I was working on Classic's boat NPC, some people told me that I should keep the boat's shape, but I wanted to make it so I only need one class, and I did everything but the actual tickettaker as a showimg. If I wanted to make it so nobody could swim under the boat, I would have to make a setshape.

Attachplayertoobj + dontblock...?

Also, this would probably be the most practical use for it.. let's say you wanted to have an NPC so that the player could walk partially behind/under it... like the back of a tree, a sign, or a picnic table...

setshape2...?

[Dach]

hmm, if it weren't for the obvious lag reducing capabilities, I'd say no for sure, but for multiple similar objects that are cross-level, showimgs would be much nicer than npcs (i.e. those blasted lights people keep making, even though that has nothing to do with setshape ). But just for having different layers of shapes on one object, put your setshape and block/dontblock in a timeout and change them as the player's interaction with the npc changes (see attachment). You don't need to layer showimgs to do such things.

[jake13jake]

Originally Posted by Lance

Put the setshape in the gani...?



Attachplayertoobj + dontblock...?



setshape2...?

Have you ever even seen the classic boat system? What if you wanted to put more than one table in a level but have all the tables in one npc? What if you wanted a level in which all the walls were scripted in setshapes?

[DIABLO2099]

putnpc with a class script may do the trick, not sure =O.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by jake13jake

Have you ever even seen the classic boat system?

No.

What if you wanted to put more than one table in a level but have all the tables in one npc?

Why?

What if you wanted a level in which all the walls were scripted in setshapes?

Why, again?

[G_yoshi]

Originally Posted by billybob256

acctually, multiple setshapes is a great idea, because i make houses out of ganis, and have to use setshape for every one, and for castles i have to use about 5.

It would really reduce lag but how would you select the NPCs in the level editor?

~G_Yoshi's Slice of Advice (lol)~

You don't even need to use setshape for houses if you know how to do it right Take a look at GK's buildings. The gani, in the editor, shows a 'base' which is the blocking zone of the house. Next, open the gani in wordpad and take a look at the script. That's what puts up the rest of the building without blocking the player. Its very useful and very efficient. Plus, when in the level editor, you see the entire thing, not just the base. I use this on Doragon Koden for anything that a player could possibly go under: Trees, houses, even my stone walls.

Setshape is more useful for smaller objects. Its purpose is for use with an NPC server, particularly non-clientside objects (i.e. script does not contain //#CLIENTSIDE; can still be used clientside, though). Setshape2 is pretty much the same except you get more control over how each 'tile' of the image behaves.

[jake13jake]

Originally Posted by Lance

No.
Take a look before you judge.


Why?
More efficiency, easier to edit.


Why, again?
If you want to make something creative.

Did you see those crazy moving blocks on the race course in the graalympics? Bet this could've done a lot of good there.

[Dach]

Originally Posted by jake13jake

Did you see those crazy moving blocks on the race course in the graalympics? Bet this could've done a lot of good there.

For what you're doing, you don't need this. For something like that, it would help but still isn't necessary. What you're suggesting has a rather limited range of uses, of which, all can already be done.

[dlang]

This would be easier for certain npcs than useing multiple images.