Rubies = Diamonds

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Oyeah, btw, congratulations on thinking / making people think that rubies and sapphires are now worth like 100 plat each, or whatever ridiculous prices everyone is charging for them nowadays. Soon enough, people will be idiotically buying other gems for 300 plat each just like diamonds, and the economy will be further screwed.

Good job, guys

[Lucreto]

Are rubies even used for anything >.>?

[Dehitay]

You are welcome

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

They're used in a few medeocre alchemy recipes, and i think the samurai wand, but that's just about it. Even so, they're common enough that idiots shouldn't be charging high prices for them.

[VeX_RaT_Boy]

Thing changes. Live with it.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Yes, things change. But there is absolutely no reason for the price of these things to go up, other than that people are being silly. I dont like silly things :O

[Googi]

I can understand the high price on Sapphires.

But rubies? Does Ruby Water even make anything valuable?

[Satrek2000]

Actually, it does, though not in terms of money.

[VeX_RaT_Boy]

You need rubies to make Dustari Wands...

[Dehitay]

I can get around 10 plat per ruby using that recipe
>=P

[thesaiyan]

Originally Posted by Satrek2000

Actually, it does, though not in terms of money.

Are you refering to that recipe that gives you insane amounts of exp when you ID the items when done?

[--Chris--]

It's called demand, supply and inflation. Personally I believe all jewels should have a worthwhile use to balance their value.

[Satrek2000]

Originally Posted by thesaiyan

Are you refering to that recipe that gives you insane amounts of exp when you ID the items when done?

I'm referring to something that, in my opinion, shouldn't be the way it is

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally Posted by Satrek2000

I'm referring to something that, in my opinion, shouldn't be the way it is

Why not? It's like the brutal map of the alchemist's world

[Taharu]

lets put it this way..... if you are crazy enough to pay the prices then they will continuously charge the outrageous prices....if you...or rather if GK as a whole bands together to resist the prices that people pay or if you as a person begins to collect and sell for cheaper then in turn people will eventually lower prices..but greed is amongst us and will continue to be as long as poeple want to get better in the game. and u said it urself anyways...Rubies/ sapphires are easy to acquire so rather then complain about what people charge to buy go outside of trade into dungeons and haunted house east/west and get yourself some... and as far as what they are used for....the recipe is not medeocre...it is the best way to elvel ur mental levels...people are getting up to lvl 30 mental off of the recipe...im 18 myself. its just a matter of luck and utinsils..by the way X_X whats the recipes again i forgot XD

[Splke]

The receipe should be removed.. seriously. Zoe gained 9 levels from it within an hour. Thats idiotic.

Oh, and go and abuse it.

Water of the Ruby(s)
Pile of Sulphur(?)
1 Torch (2?)

not like it matters, GK is beyond repair.

[Satrek2000]

If it is, then because of such behaviour

[Splke]

Originally Posted by Satrek2000

If it is, then because of such behaviour

Get off your high horse. I'm seriously fed up with you and the zealots of RP. This game means gameplay, items, leveling up, etc, to those who can do it. Just because your little pack of wolves cannot level up quite as well as others, and deem RP as more important, does not mean you need to force this opinion down everybodys throat.

And to your comment...

[Dehitay]

the only way you can gain 9 levels within an hour is to have saved up a incredible load of rubies, torches, and sulfur
the fact that he waited for a single day to do it is no different than having gaining 9 levels in the number of days he was aquiring the items
Matter of fact, I think it's actually harder to do it all at once
it's not doubt tedious as hell
and I believe that your chance of succeeding in that spell actually goes down if you keep doing it over and over without increasing the time interval you do it in

As for the "insane" amount of exp you gain
It's available to everybody
and as you get farther along, you need bigger ways of levelling
How would you feel if you got to a high level, need 1.5 M to level up and all you could kill were shell bomies?
the fact that new players can catch up to higher levelled players with the spells only means that the new players are putting more effort into it
higher level players actually have the advantage since they have a higher mental level and consequently, a higher chance of success in that recipe

[Splke]

... just shut up. It's unfair because she knew it was going to be enabled.

And it isn't hard when her hammer has int+ pow+, and she has every int+ item she would need, as well as a level 20 alchemy...

How do you think us legit players feel lording for 1.4 days just to get 1 damn level? -.- Save yourself my verbal abuse and shut up.

[Dehitay]

Originally Posted by Splke

... just shut up. It's unfair because she knew it was going to be enabled.

And it isn't hard when her hammer has int+ pow+, and she has every int+ item she would need, as well as a level 20 alchemy...

How do you think us legit players feel lording for 1.4 days just to get 1 damn level? -.- Save yourself my verbal abuse and shut up.

I'm not sure as to who or what you're referring
but since my post was the only one after your previous post,
I'll guess it was me and my comments

Which is strange as hell cause you just said right before this that you don't care if people can level up faster than RP estatic people
Yet apparently, you care if they level up faster than yourself
Alchemy is "legit" for levelling
Maybe you should try it yourself
because as you complain about it and refuse to do it,
there are others such as myself using it and gaining mental and base levels
stop hunting the lords and go to the haunted houses and fight people for rubies and sapphires like I have to do
if you fear others levelling so fast, use their methods

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Lol the highest mental level is lvl25, and Drakeero has it.
And ***** sp|ke, shut your slaggy mouth up you know full well that i'm just going to say "GK was originally meant to be a roleplaying server, and shouldn't have been lowered into a classic server with special PKing NPCs"

[Splke]

Originally Posted by Monkeyboy_McGee

Lol the highest mental level is lvl25, and Drakeero has it.
And ***** sp|ke, shut your slaggy mouth up you know full well that i'm just going to say "GK was originally meant to be a roleplaying server, and shouldn't have been lowered into a classic server with special PKing NPCs"

xD I knew one of you zealots would try that! Sure, it was made a RP server, but introduced as an item, level-up, PK server. Thus it's been rarely known to have RP outside of War, Events, things with items involved.

Originally Posted by Dehitay

I'm not sure as to who or what you're referring
but since my post was the only one after your previous post,
I'll guess it was me and my comments

Which is strange as hell cause you just said right before this that you don't care if people can level up faster than RP estatic people
Yet apparently, you care if they level up faster than yourself
Alchemy is "legit" for levelling
Maybe you should try it yourself
because as you complain about it and refuse to do it,
there are others such as myself using it and gaining mental and base levels
stop hunting the lords and go to the haunted houses and fight people for rubies and sapphires like I have to do
if you fear others levelling so fast, use their methods

Lowering myself to the standards of an ordinary player is not something I would be so asinine to do. That said, I also do not like the idea of getting Base / mental levels, since I myself am more Magic / Phys orientated, and mental does not help at all, base only brings HP up by 2, which, I in the end get by leveling phys / magic. Thanks anyways.

[Satrek2000]

Originally Posted by Splke

Get off your high horse. I'm seriously fed up with you and the zealots of RP. This game means gameplay, items, leveling up, etc, to those who can do it. Just because your little pack of wolves cannot level up quite as well as others, and deem RP as more important, does not mean you need to force this opinion down everybodys throat.

I'll have to disappoint you, I'm currently not riding anything that qualifies as high. Also, I'm not a zealot. I like roleplaying, and I know that GK was meant to be a RP-server. There's no argument about that. What it actually is is certainly a different matter, but basically, the server is what the players want it to be. I know many who like roleplaying, and most of them actually do it, via pm, on-screen or in toguilds - and they have fun. Who are you to tell them that powergaming, leveling and pking are the only true ways of playing? Also, I believe I could level up if I wanted to. I'm fine with my level, both base and skills. I don't feel the need to "pwn" anyone, and unless there's a proper kingdom war, I won't be fighting anyone in the near future. I think I can defend myself, if necessary I'll just run, I don't see any shame in it. I have fun playing, and my gameplay includes roleplaying. If you want to pk and level, so be it, even though I think it's a bit boring to say the least.
You can do whatever you want as far as I am concerned, yet you argue against us "RP-zealots" and try to be destructive on the server, claiming it's already beyond repair, hence more or less urging people to join your way. Who's the zealot here?

[Dehitay]

I don't think he said the server was beyond repair
I think he likes it for the qualities it has that allows him to PK
just like you like it for the qualities it has that allow you to RP
He's like the Ziro cept on the opposite end of the extreme
Ziro believes you should be put to death for not role playing
and he believes role playing is completely inferior to strengthening up and fighting

[Satrek2000]

Originally Posted by Dehitay

I don't think he said the server was beyond repair

Originally Posted by Splke

not like it matters, GK is beyond repair.

He did Also, I think I can agree with the rest of your statement.

[Splke]

Originally Posted by Satrek2000

rambling

I
DONT
PLAY
GK
ANYMORE
JESUS
CHRIST

I'm not a PEEKAYER
I'm not a hyperactive leveler
I'm not a Bomboria Trade House PKING freak
I'm somebody who got bored of being dissed for RPing
I'm somebody who can RP, and PK, without TROLLING EITHER ONE

I am not trolling powerplay, but instead, I am being real about the situation. You feel GK should be a RP server because it was started as one, yet, it has not been raised as one. The players decide what it is. If it is a RP server to you, fine. Don't go on every thread you can promoting RP, and RP is the only way, or any of that zealot nature. It upsets me much, considering, I have put alot of work into my RP, and my character, and all you do is promote RP, disregarding the obvious leveling aspects of the game.

It's like any other forum, they have the forums, and an Arcade, or other sections to talk about <insert something other than the forums root meanning> because it attracts people. That is what Stefen has done, rather well. Maybe 1/8 people RP on there, great, good for you all, have fun with it, but stop trolling the forums, and shoving your RP into every arguement you can...

Don't take this as an offensive attack upon you, I'm just upset and tired of you, Monkey, Ziro and Cyrilin trolling this ****.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Splke

I am not trolling powerplay, but instead, I am being real about the situation. You feel GK should be a RP server because it was started as one, yet, it has not been raised as one. The players decide what it is. If it is a RP server to you, fine. Don't go on every thread you can promoting RP, and RP is the only way, or any of that zealot nature. It upsets me much, considering, I have put alot of work into my RP, and my character, and all you do is promote RP, disregarding the obvious leveling aspects of the game.

There is a small dichotomy here.

You say that the players decide what it is, but you won't let Satrek (or the others) utilize their rights as players to do so.

I don't get it.

[Splke]

Originally Posted by Lance

There is a small dichotomy here.

You say that the players decide what it is, but you won't let Satrek (or the others) utilize their rights as players to do so.

I don't get it.

Their deciding for other players what GK is.

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by Splke

Don't take this as an offensive attack upon you, I'm just upset and tired of you, Monkey, Ziro and Cyrilin trolling this ****.

Okay, here is where I come in. Let's make a list, shal we?

• I assume that with Cyrilin you ment Cyrin, which is me. If not, try to gain more knowledge
• I barely 'troll' anything about RPing to be enforced, but it's true that Kingdoms was ment as a RP server
• I can't find the post where someone said you're a hyperactive leveler or PEEKAYER.
• Barely any of the players who RP complain about the leveling system. No, they complain about how the system as a whole isn't suited for RPing.

Originally Posted by Dehitay

It's available to everybody

Even to people who get killed by one hit of a shell bomy?

Originally Posted by Dehitay

Which is strange as hell cause you just said right before this that you don't care if people can level up faster than RP estatic people

I think you misinterpreted the guy's post. I pray for you that English isn't your native language

[Satrek2000]

Originally Posted by Splke

I am not trolling powerplay, but instead, I am being real about the situation. You feel GK should be a RP server because it was started as one, yet, it has not been raised as one. The players decide what it is. If it is a RP server to you, fine. Don't go on every thread you can promoting RP, and RP is the only way, or any of that zealot nature. It upsets me much, considering, I have put alot of work into my RP, and my character, and all you do is promote RP, disregarding the obvious leveling aspects of the game.

Three things here:
You said you don't play anymore, while I still do, so I'm a player and you're not, strictly speaking.
I promote roleplaying, yes, but I don't force anyone to do it and I accept other opinions, unlike you, as it seems.
I never mentioned roleplaying unless there was either a discussion involving it or a possibility to bring it on with people that understand certain insiders, mainly in the Dustari Forums.

Originally Posted by Splke

It's like any other forum, they have the forums, and an Arcade, or other sections to talk about <insert something other than the forums root meanning> because it attracts people. That is what Stefen has done, rather well. Maybe 1/8 people RP on there, great, good for you all, have fun with it, but stop trolling the forums, and shoving your RP into every arguement you can...

There are other forums than those for GK, and even for non-graal-related stuff, so I fail to see your point here.

Originally Posted by Splke

Don't take this as an offensive attack upon you, I'm just upset and tired of you, Monkey, Ziro and Cyrilin trolling this ****.

I don't even know what trollig is, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to. All I know is that I have my opinion and I'm goind to state it whenever it applies to an argument. If that upsets you, I'm afraid I can't help it.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Deciding? Nah, we're reminding them what it should be =/
We believe that it should be a mainly roleplaying server because it started as a roleplaying server, and most of the population RPed, and it should have been raised as an rping server - why it wasnt is beyond me, i wasnt there for most of it.

[Splke]

Trolling is the equivilent of being a zealot, I think >_>

NGRT isnt used to draw players to Graal
GKs items, and Action-Adeventure style is. Which is why it isn't considered an RP server anymore.
Yes, you are forcing your opinion upon others. You constantly, in every thread I have seen you post in, have to mention that GK was meant to be an RP server. That is trolling, and isn't allowed on Forums.. wonder why it isn't enforced

It should be a player decision to play the game, or RP... You don't need to sit there and lay your opinion down on them, constantly. Yes, back when the actual RP / leveling players played, we had a very good, consistent RP going throughout GK, but then Staff ruined it (James) by giving afew lucky people 'uber leet' items, which distorted everybodys image of RP, since, it is more fun to kill somebody with a 10k damage dagger, rather than with :: <text> :: (not in my case, but w/e).

Lastly, stop grouping me with powerplayers. You have talked to me how many times outside of Forums? Once, twice? Maybe when I was chasing you down for blessings? You don't know who I am, and it's very ignorant of you to group me as a powerplayer. I support RP, I'm all for it, it's much more entertainning then powerplaying, but I don't like the way you are promoting it. It's in an offensive, rather negative way. That being, you bringing MarkB down, and then promoting RP... Maybe you could give him positive reinforcement? Help him learn to RP? Wow, what great ideas, and yet, I'll only be flamed for saying your ignorant, since I myself am.

Anyways, I'm not going to pay attention to forums for like, 4-5 hours, so... have fun?

[Satrek2000]

True, I don't know who you are - I see you calling others zealots while you're fierce enough in your arguments to qualify for the same rank, and your posts more often that not are directed against roleplaying and people who promote - not force - that.

As for my posts, I certainly said that GK is or should be a RP-server, with some effects on my idea of what's important and what's not. If, in your perception, I said such in each and every post, I'd advise you to read some more of mine

And does pointlessly using this smily entertain you? Oh, and no, you never chased me for a blessing. But why would a roleplayer have to chase someone to get their bidding?