Quite possibly the reason Kingdoms is ****ty.

Splke · #1 01-30-2004, 01:38 AM

As many of you know, and some do not, foxyrain (Zoe) reached level 100 as of today... Thats quite ashtonishing, but the really bad part is the idea of +11 items...

I dont think that Zoe herself should be blamed for the past +8 / +9 / +10 since she herself may or earned that (without stacked maps)...

Tecumseh before her, Shobre somewhat before him and Wren as well all contributed too the high Enchantments... It isnt as if I didnt benefit from the +7-+10 's of them, but now people can have simple gear (boots, helm, shield) and get them +10 and thats -38 or so AC...

I mean, its rediculous... now look at somebody like account D1ce2, (not targeting you alone) he has all +10 gear, and -61 AC... -61 AC... thats at least -40 WC to hit him (1/5th chance?) and figuring he has gloves, your insignificant -40 ac if nothing for his +10 markmanship gloves (or havoks)... He honestly doesnt have to even Level up, because he knows some Sagesuns who EA'd his stuff...

The rest of us however, either get constantly ignored, or slammed with 200 diamond prices for 1 peice of gear... I'm not trying to single anybody out here, since many people have contributed to the high leveling...

I just wish, that somehow EAing could be re-thought... or maybe more WC items could be released to countereffect the high AC... Having to level my Phys to level 40 without somebody handing me stacked brutals day in day out is quite hard, and quite expensive... (3k per brutal)

I dont like the idea of complainning about this, but some players are absolutely immortal, while maintainning the same lvl 28 character...

Anywhom, sorry for complainning, simply expressing my opinion on the matter, and hoping we can get some more WC items out... possibly a new set of armors? (i've been freehand drawing some helms, armors, shields and such... if i scan them up i'll show yall)

skyler87 · #2 01-30-2004, 01:53 AM

I personally don't think that you should be able to enchant anything over +5 or so. Anything more is just too damn high. I have trouble breaking mostly everyones AC these days, even newbs, and I'm one of the highest phys levels on the server (AND I use havoks). I can just imagine how hard it is for people who didn't waste hundreds of hours of their life leveling to break anyones AC. Noone was meant to be able to get past level 60.

Splke · #3 01-30-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by skyler87
I personally don't think that you should be able to enchant anything over +5 or so. Anything more is just too damn high. I have trouble breaking mostly everyones AC these days, even newbs, and I'm one of the highest phys levels on the server (AND I use havoks). I can just imagine how hard it is for people who didn't waste hundreds of hours of their life leveling to break anyones AC. Noone was meant to be able to get past level 60.

People were given large shoves into leveling up, brutals came out, and suddenly became stacked... But +5 is abit low, thatd mean Tseng would be able to EA for everybody xD

But, I agree and disagree. EA's shouldnt be a way to stop leveling process'... Like you said, many of us have spent hundreds of hours leveling up legitly, and others have simply been handed 100 brutals and gained 20 phys levels in one day... Unfair, yes, but did we gain from it? Yeah, we did, but so did every other fool on this server who gets +10's sets of gear...

I simply think there should be a way to counter the high AC, wether it being a fast cast rate type item (so we dont hafta break AC) or more WC + items that will be evenly evented, not just handing it to the ones who dont need it...

Splke · #4 01-30-2004, 02:25 AM

It seems my post was inervertnently (sp?) directed at Zoe... I didnt mean to direct this at her solely, but those who I feel are responsible for the unbalanced levels and high EAs....

Let me phrase this differently... When the HSoD came out, it was sought after for the extra 2 ac.... now people have shields with +2 ac, simply EA'd to +10 while others who have HSoDs may or may not have that +10... That renders the HSoD useless, for reasons other then GFX look, and slight AC boost.

Now, I directed this at, Shobre, Zoe, Wren, Tec... not only them, but those who gave them the maps (stacked i mean) to let them achieve such a high level... I did not mean to do anything but try to help solve this problem by suggesting wc items or another counter-effect... somebody obviously took this personally, and I apoligize for that...

DragonX · #5 01-30-2004, 02:27 AM

Ok.
Kingdoms is for RP.
RP.
Don't worry about the items. You don't NEED to PK to have fun.
If you don't want to be PKed, go peaceful. RP, have fun. That's what kingdoms is for. I don't see why people complain over something so small. If you just want to PK then goto classic or something. Kingdoms is for RP (I know I dont RP but I dont complain about stuff because I know I dont need to).
RP
RP
RP.

--Chris-- · #6 01-30-2004, 02:29 AM

Hi, wc more than outweighs ac, I'm on the phone right now and too lazy to go into details - contact me on aim or something and I'll explain it Argo.

skyler87 · #7 01-30-2004, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX
Ok.
Kingdoms is for RP.
RP.
Don't worry about the items. You don't NEED to PK to have fun.
If you don't want to be PKed, go peaceful. RP, have fun. That's what kingdoms is for. I don't see why people complain over something so small. If you just want to PK then goto classic or something. Kingdoms is for RP (I know I dont RP but I dont complain about stuff because I know I dont need to).
RP
RP
RP.

If kingdoms is meant for RP only, then why is there even a battle mode?

GTXOO · #8 01-30-2004, 02:45 AM

--remove battle mode--

make kingdom wars only way to fight others..

DragonX · #9 01-30-2004, 02:47 AM

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Originally posted by skyler87

If kingdoms is meant for RP only, then why is there even a battle mode?

For those who want to gain EXP faster. No one forces you to go into battle mode. No one FORCES you to PK. Dont complain just because you cant PK somebody because thats not what kingdoms is for.

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #10 01-30-2004, 02:55 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX
Ok.
Kingdoms is for RP.
RP.
Don't worry about the items. You don't NEED to PK to have fun.
If you don't want to be PKed, go peaceful. RP, have fun. That's what kingdoms is for. I don't see why people complain over something so small. If you just want to PK then goto classic or something. Kingdoms is for RP (I know I dont RP but I dont complain about stuff because I know I dont need to).
RP
RP
RP.

GK's RPing is based on kingdoms.
If kingdoms aren't RPing, people have to work hard to get RPing working. GK is a game. RPing is for fun. You shouldn't have to "work hard" as a player to have a game working. RPing should already be regulated. Yes, RPing is a thing of free will and we're all free to RP on our own. I do it all the time. But it's a pain when noone else is doing it and eventually it gets boring and sad. If you havn't noticed, anyone in any kingdom doesn't have to RP while wearing their RP tag. Anyone can deny this if they wish, but the truth is shown by merely playing for a day and you see so many people in RP kingdoms NOT RPing.

Crint_Eastawood · #11 01-30-2004, 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX
Ok.
Kingdoms is for RP.
RP.
Don't worry about the items. You don't NEED to PK to have fun.
If you don't want to be PKed, go peaceful. RP, have fun. That's what kingdoms is for. I don't see why people complain over something so small. If you just want to PK then goto classic or something. Kingdoms is for RP (I know I dont RP but I dont complain about stuff because I know I dont need to).
RP
RP
RP.

This post wasnt directed at the point to pk. It was pointed at the way the system is faulty. They need to re-think the system so people who want to pk can have fun. Think about the class servers, You can pk someone even if they have more hearts than you. In kingdoms, its impossible to even hit them, let alone do more than 5 damage against there phys resist.

DragonX · #12 01-30-2004, 03:05 AM

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Originally posted by Crint_Eastawood
This post wasnt directed at the point to pk. It was pointed at the way the system is faulty. They need to re-think the system so people who want to pk can have fun. Think about the class servers, You can pk someone even if they have more hearts than you. In kingdoms, its impossible to even hit them, let alone do more than 5 damage against there phys resist.

Then don't attack them! Duh!
If you see a tiger, do you run up to it and kick it? NO because it will bite your leg off. If people use their brains, they wont get in such tough situations.

skyler87 · #13 01-30-2004, 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX

For those who want to gain EXP faster. No one forces you to go into battle mode. No one FORCES you to PK. Dont complain just because you cant PK somebody because thats not what kingdoms is for.

It is different in this case, when something that can even be considered a "bug" is preventing us from having fun with bmode.

DragonX · #14 01-30-2004, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by skyler87

It is different in this case, when something that can even be considered a "bug" is preventing us from having fun with bmode.

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Leveling up and using the advantages of leveling up (like gaining slots to do more damage or whatnot, being able to enchant higher) is a bug?

skyler87 · #15 01-30-2004, 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX

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Leveling up and using the advantages of leveling up (like gaining slots to do more damage or whatnot, being able to enchant higher) is a bug?

Stacked brutals aren't supposed to be a part of the system, so yes, in some cases it is.