End Of Nighthawks, new Beginning

[busyrobot]

The Nighthawks attacked Zormite, and in a strong counter attack, Dustari and Zormite followed thier trail back to the isle from which they raided from, and drove off every last one of them.


The Order of the Black Cloak was on the shores, bought by the raiders to provide defense, but they too were defeated in the battle.

In the end, only Hawk Carters, their king was standing, and after resigning to defeat, he left the isle himself.


(I will not go into which of their people respawned, but suffice it to say, even then we had a number of survivors, they did not )


~~ Future of the Isle: ~~



We do not seek a strong western influence in the east.

Our goal was to remove the safe haven for Nighthawk raiding parties, and we accomplished that.

Those with houses built there may keep them of course.


The island, will become an trading center, building on shipping commerce as a border island between the various nations. We will add a guild tag for the inhabitants, which will contain many zormite and dustarians, but it can also be a good rp training ground for people not yet in kingdoms. It has enough room for sea fairing scaliwags, travellers from the eastern regions, wandering elves and all others that it is a real good place for people to get a taste of what sort of kingdom they will want to join later, whether cp, forest, samurai, zormite or dustari.


We will not be changing the style of buildings, but may add a fishery and trading house or such, perhaps in a mixed kingdom style of stucture, and a graveyard to honor the fallen.


This island will take on a history, not just a written rp history, but one that was the result of battles and actions of the people who play GK, and make a more dynamic and lively future for Kingdoms.
Its an rp history with an in game history.


More details will be added as time progresses, feel free to post questions.

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

<insert Padren's post quote here>

I have a crazy idea. Let's turn GK into a role-playing game; the kind of role-playing game where people roleplay. How's that sound? And...well, don't think even crazier of me, but let's say....these "kingdoms" could be groups dedicated to roleplaying. In fact, they could be the center of the roleplaying. Oh, and another one just hit my mind. They'll use traditional Graal guild tags, but if you use a roleplaying group's tag, it'll mean you're roleplaying! I'm sorry, that's probably too bizarre and insane for everyone. I'll go back and hide in my hole, drinking my grog...

Fifteen men on a dead man's chest... *sadly, faintly...*
Yo..ho...ho.... *barely speaking*...and a bottle of rum


Edit:
Oh yeah, back on topic, *feels guilty*... this all sounds interesting. I guess I just don't like the idea much since I've never liked Nighthawks. You would think if people want to start their own roleplaying group, which is rather hard considering you have to get kingdoms to acknowledge you into their roleplaying, they would work HARDER than the current kingdoms and at least SHOW effort of doing so. However, when you see the leaders of the kingdom not even following traditional and commonly accepted RPing regulations, you tend to lose respect for these people.

[syltburk]

This is nice, finally wars

[darkemporor]

The official RP documentation

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=49838


Dictatress Wren Sagesun Archigos
The Zormite Republic

[Satrek2000]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec
I have a crazy idea. Let's turn GK into a role-playing game;

Hm... is it me or is that what Padren did? His post sounds much more rp-ish than "Nighthawks sucked, we pwned them!".

[LoveableNalle]

Originally posted by busyrobot
The Nighthawks attacked Zormite, and in a strong counter attack, Dustari and Zormite followed thier trail back to the isle from which they raided from, and drove off every last one of them.


The Order of the Black Cloak was on the shores, bought by the raiders to provide defense, but they too were defeated in the battle.

In the end, only Hawk Carters, their king was standing, and after resigning to defeat, he left the isle himself.


(I will not go into which of their people respawned, but suffice it to say, even then we had a number of survivors, they did not )


~~ Future of the Isle: ~~



We do not seek a strong western influence in the east.

Our goal was to remove the safe haven for Nighthawk raiding parties, and we accomplished that.

Those with houses built there may keep them of course.


The island, will become an trading center, building on shipping commerce as a border island between the various nations. We will add a guild tag for the inhabitants, which will contain many zormite and dustarians, but it can also be a good rp training ground for people not yet in kingdoms. It has enough room for sea fairing scaliwags, travellers from the eastern regions, wandering elves and all others that it is a real good place for people to get a taste of what sort of kingdom they will want to join later, whether cp, forest, samurai, zormite or dustari.


We will not be changing the style of buildings, but may add a fishery and trading house or such, perhaps in a mixed kingdom style of stucture, and a graveyard to honor the fallen.


This island will take on a history, not just a written rp history, but one that was the result of battles and actions of the people who play GK, and make a more dynamic and lively future for Kingdoms.
Its an rp history with an in game history.


More details will be added as time progresses, feel free to post questions.

Unfortunately I was not on when war broke out, If I had been Kurenai Joukai would of kicked NH's behinds ourselves for bringing war to our lands. Nighthawks Island belongs to Kurenai Joukai by simple fact you need our tag to enter Castle, well let me rephrase that It did belong to Kurenai Joukai before the war. But Nighthawks has brought on our land war against kingdoms that Kurenai calls friends and I am so ashamed. Ashamed to say that the "black cloak that showed up were also my kingsmen ( who would of been on KJ tag had I been on) For that I apoligize Kurenai Joukai wishes no harm to Zormite nor Dustari. To make sure something like that does not happen again I have enstated policy that no dual citizens are allowed in my kingdom.
I am hoping to also negociate to get back our land that was lost by the renegades of Nighthawks guild peacefuly.
Again please accept my apoligies and accept our hand stretched out in peace.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by LoveableNalle

Ashamed to say that the "black cloak that showed up were also my kingsmen ( who would of been on KJ tag had I been on)

Why would they have only been on tag if you were on? If they were true Kingdom Members they would have been on tag anyway, instead of off in their lil' PKing guild...

[LordZen]

Originally posted by LoveableNalle

I am hoping to also negociate to get back our land that was lost by the renegades of Nighthawks guild peacefuly.

Your kingdom had no claims to that land prior to Nighthawk's formation and settlement.

It also is clear that the Nighthawk province was not a territory of Kurenai Joukai because it was ruled by an independant monarchy.

Besides, looking back at the history of GK kingdoms, the island will probably be much better off under the control of the Zormite-Dustari coalition.

Originally posted by LoveableNalle

Nighthawks Island belongs to Kurenai Joukai by simple fact you need our tag to enter Castle

That would be the result of current limitations to the game sytem, not the result of ownership.

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by LordZen

That would be the result of current limitations to the game sytem, not the result of ownership.

The game system is all that matters untill all these groups decide to actually work together to form an actual role-playing game. The only options are the game system and roleplaying. And roleplaying is just a complete joke and can't be taken seriously. I scoff and laugh upon the futile attempts of roleplaying taken on behalf of people who merely go around the rest of the time being OOC. You can't simply ignore, spit on, and forsake roleplaying 99% of the time, and simply expect to be taken seriously that 1% you want to have some roleplaying action. This is referring to those kingdoms who are OOC all the time on tag as they should NOT be, and try to start some war or other RP event out of the "blue".

[LordZen]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


The game system is all that matters untill all these groups decide to actually work together to form an actual role-playing game. The only options are the game system and roleplaying. And roleplaying is just a complete joke and can't be taken seriously. I scoff and laugh upon the futile attempts of roleplaying taken on behalf of people who merely go around the rest of the time being OOC. You can't simply ignore, spit on, and forsake roleplaying 99% of the time, and simply expect to be taken seriously that 1% you want to have some roleplaying action. This is referring to those kingdoms who are OOC all the time on tag as they should NOT be, and try to start some war or other RP event out of the "blue".

...?

Well anyways, back on topic:

I'm refering to gameplay system limitations in that if system was more flexible then Nighthawks could have been made a true 6th kingdom with full K-GUI support and being able to set alliances in their own diplomacy window etc.

Just because the game was originally intended to have 5 kingdoms, if the administration decides later to add a 6th then that shouldnt mean that this new kingdom has to be a subordinate of one of the original 5. If you want to truly look at it in an RP sense, that is..

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by LordZen


...?

Well anyways, back on topic:

I'm refering to gameplay system limitations in that if system was more flexible then Nighthawks could have been made a true 6th kingdom with full K-GUI support and being able to set alliances in their own diplomacy window etc.

Just because the game was originally intended to have 5 kingdoms, if the administration decides later to add a 6th then that shouldnt mean that this new kingdom has to be a subordinate of one of the original 5. If you want to truly look at it in an RP sense, that is..

Well, since you're repeating yourself, I'll do the same:

<insert my last post here>

and...

Since people, even kingdom leaders, show horrible RPing if any at all, those very same people should not try to use RPing only to benefit them in their own success when in reality, they don't work as RPing groups for the most part. Therefore, they're using RPing to make their non-RPing group succeed.

So, since they don't go by RPing, that means they usually go by the game's mechanics and systems (example: instead roleplaying while on tag, they just go around talking OOC all the time, leveling up, senseless PKing, trading items in an OOC way ALL on tag). So, they should also work by the game's system of having only 5 kingdoms.

As for the people who actually RP and want to keep RPing, they could RP a new kingdom just fine....

[LordZen]

I did not repeat myself, I was clarifying a point you seemed confused on..

The new kingdom was sanctioned by the administration and therefore should be alotted all the rights of sovereignty, regardless of the original configuration of the server which was also decided by the administration.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec

Since people, even kingdom leaders, show horrible RPing if any at all, those very same people should not try to use RPing only to benefit them in their own success when in reality, they don't work as RPing groups for the most part. Therefore, they're using RPing to make their non-RPing group succeed.

You seem to be awfully ignorant and unkoweldgeable for a kingdom leader....

[darkemporor]

What's really disturbing here is when leaders who cry out for RP on GK, then are the very first to set snobbish limitations when players actually do roleplay. Kingdoms is made up of a varied age group of players with varied experiences in roleplaying. It makes better sense for kingdom leaders to set good RP examples for players who aren't living up to their expectations, then to continuouly pound the same incessant theme into oblivion about other kingdoms RP practices or lack there of.

On one hand, these people seem to have little else to focus upon than the RP standards and happenings of other kingdoms. You can see it arise as a constant in the content of their mass messages in game, their forum contributions and in private discussions. These are the very people who criticize out of one side of their mouth saying... 'Down with this kingdom, they don't RP'... and out of the other side of their mouth...'Hey! That kingdom's roleplay effort is invalidated because they don't RP 100% of the time and in the manner to which I have become accumstom to roleplaying!'

OH! And, shouldn't such *experts* of roleplaying know that they cannot ~~correctly~~ criticize a kingdom IC because of their OOC disapproval of a kingdom's RP style/skill/etiquette?

At some point, these contradictions really do become infuriating.

I say it's time to wake up and ease up. What does any player really know about what is going on within another kingdom in terms of their RP unless their RP paths cross?
How successful can we expect kingdoms players to become at roleplaying when leaders on the game insist on boxing players and what they will accept as legit RP into a corner of how, when, where, why and with whom it is appropriate to roleplay?

Those who have a perfect RP score, 100% on tag role playing at all times? Step up here and let me be the first to congratulate you. Those who only talk about it...and talk, and talk and talk...? Please, just be quiet.

Wren Sagesun Archigos
A kingdom leader
(who ofttimes Roleplays on G2K)

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Governor Raghnro Diomora of the (Crescent Pirates) (8/11/2003 1:25:01 AM):

Mass message:
The KKK are a leet guild

Governor Raghnro Diomora of the (Crescent Pirates) (12/13/2003 7:01:53 PM):

Mass message:
You don't have to listen to me. I might have been scammed. But the fact is this:
The guy upgraded my account before I even gave him anything.

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[LordZen]

Well said, lol and I love your new sig.

(Had to be sure to draw attention to that)