Corruption/Main Problems

FreezeBurnX · #1 09-14-2003, 12:44 AM

First I want to report the event Angel Did.
She morphed to a Dragon and you had to kill her. I killed her before the event, then killed on the event. And asked for a PH as prize. She said ok, but she'd have 500 life. And here we go again. There wasn't many people on, I knew she wouldn't give a PH as prize. When almost dieing, she went to the water and morphed to that snake, then at final she got stuck, and I died many times with that snake bomb, loosing money and items, but I got her to 0. I won the event. I asked for my prize. She said it weren't a ph, it were like a box, I asked if it were a villa, she said that yes, but I already had a villa so I asked for the PH, I didn't want another, just to exchange my PH for that one under waterfalls near mine place. She warped us to there and I had to g2g... she said it were ok, that we talk later. When I come back from lunch, she keeps ignoring me from PM. I go to her on the game asking nicely, she ignores me. Then went again but didn't ask nicely, she said "dude, no PHs for free". I know, that's kinda obvious and don't make sense, not many people were on for the event and the prize couldn't be a PH. But it weren't for free, I had to win the event dying, loosing stuff, and I weren't getting a Free PH, just an exchange. I asked for another prize, she said she had 1g. :grrr: I went ultimate angry with her... but she just kept ignoring me, just said she would do an auction later and it didn't happen. Demon asked if I wanted 200g as prize, but I didn't want 200g, I wanted an PH exchange or bomy, or something like. Well, and they say they will do this server fair.
And how can Tseng be G2k1 Manager, GST, Events Master at GK, King of Dustari, main kingdom of Dustari. He should pick some, he can't do all those jobs. And if most people didn't note, g2k1 is dying. Also, where are the Kingdoms of G2k1!?!?! Where are the 50 ETs?! Events have gone rare... What is happening with this server? I liked so much old G2k1!

MrCharles · #2 09-14-2003, 12:47 AM

i would do more events. but school has me kinda tied up. so i cant play every night now x.x

zs0 · #3 09-14-2003, 12:50 AM

Yea, 2k1 is going down the drain, money is really hard to make, and Tseng won't lower the prices on anything even though he keeps making money harder to get.. There needs to be some changes made to 2k1, if I was Manager there would be a lot more stuff to do than pk, etc. I wish I was manager or someone else that isn't corrupt was =/

FreezeBurnX · #4 09-14-2003, 01:06 AM

Oh I forgot to Mention, when I asked Angel, about PH, after I won, she said 'I lied'.

Now Resuming:
Event:Kill Angel in Dragon/Snake Mode.
First Prize:She said there was a prize but didn't say which.
After died(Angel), the prize was: PH
I killed her 3 Times.
Prize I got:None
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Now Staff Stuff.

Police=

I only see Nappa online as Police!
FAQ=

Wow, almost all the time there's a FAQ, very good!
ET=

Even with 50 ETs, I don't see events all the time. Sometimes Minoc/Nappa/Kirin host...
There rest never appear on tag, as that there's no need.

Staff should also anwser PMs, I know they are busy and etc but one part of their job is to anwser PMs!

--Chris-- · #5 09-14-2003, 01:10 AM

First of all: any idiot would sacrifice a few deaths for a PH or Villa including myself. Angel was probably unaware of how valuable the prize was until after so try to accept a fair compensation like 200g.

Secondly: Zs0; don't call Tseng corrupt unless you can back it up and willing to have me bash your ass left, right and centre about it.

Thirdly: I don't see anything wrong with having many jobs once you're capable of efficiently managing them. I myself am 1) Developer - Kingdoms, Events Master - Kingdoms, King of Forest - Kingdoms, Developer - Graal 2001, FAQ Chief - Graal 2001, Global GFX Team. Isn't that just as much as Tseng? In comparison to me I think he's alot more skilled in numerous ways and I'd tell ya from experiance, it isn't as hard as it may seem. Tseng is more than capable of handling all of his jobs so lay off.

Last but not least: We have some of the best level makers working their ass off on the kingdom levels for YOU people, not machines that can make levels for Graal 24/7. If they were to hurry up and make a half assed level you wouldn't like it so have patience and let them finish their work in peace. The ETs were hired, all players like yourself but it's their responsibility to hold the events, the ETA did his job of hiring. "i r 1s teh old g2k1 kthxpls k!!11Shift+1111!!" Yes, great idea! The same thing it is now WITHOUT freakin updates! You must be going to Harvard (sp?) soon =O

Edit: Oh and as for money making, only thing I see wrong is mining. I use to want it eased up before but now it's literally 5x harder.

FreezeBurnX · #6 09-14-2003, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by --Chris--
First of all: any idiot would sacrifice a few deaths for a PH or Villa including myself. Angel was probably unaware of how valuable the prize was until after so try to accept a fair compensation like 200g.

First: Yes, I agree any idiot would, that's me. But a few deaths costed me way more then 200g. Also, she didn't offer me 200g, she offered me 1g. Who offered me 200g was Demon (Demon <3!). Ok, I think that too, it doesn't make sense a PH as prize, I said that. That's why I asked HER another prize. A bomy would be fair, there are so much. 1g isn't a fair prize. And a PH exchange would be acctually fair. It wasn't easy kill Angel and she said the prize would be a PH.

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Originally posted by --Chris--
Thirdly: I don't see anything wrong with having many jobs once you're capable of efficiently managing them.

(...) once you're capable of efficiently managing them (...)
That's not Tseng's Case.

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Originally posted by --Chris--
Edit: Oh and as for money making, only thing I see wrong is mining. I use to want it eased up before but now it's literally 5x harder.

I Agree totally here, mining takes more money, more time and you get less money. Even bread baking is quicker.

Proxy · #7 09-14-2003, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by FreezeBurnX
Oh I forgot to Mention, when I asked Angel, about PH, after I won, she said 'I lied'.

If that is the case and all this is true she will be removed from Events Team.

Qwert616 · #8 09-14-2003, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by FreezeBurnX

First: Yes, I agree any idiot would, that's me. But a few deaths costed me way more then 200g. Also, she didn't offer me 200g, she offered me 1g. Who offered me 200g was Demon (Demon <3!). Ok, I think that too, it doesn't make sense a PH as prize, I said that. That's why I asked HER another prize. A bomy would be fair, there are so much. 1g isn't a fair prize. And a PH exchange would be acctually fair. It wasn't easy kill Angel and she said the prize would be a PH.

Bomys > Player Houses, dude.

FreezeBurnX · #9 09-14-2003, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by Proxy

If that is the case and all this is true she will be removed from Events Team.

Events Team, Events Team? She is not ET, she is Asst. Manager. I don't think her event were bad, just that there should be prize, acctually it were fun.

FreezeBurnX · #10 09-14-2003, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Qwert616

Bomys > Player Houses, dude.

I don't think so, "dude". There are 14 PHs (2 Removed). Bomies there are many, probally more then 50. And some bomies, on old g2k1 weren't worth even 1k. None PH were worth less then 1k, if I know.

Qwert616 · #11 09-14-2003, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by FreezeBurnX

I don't think so, "dude". There are 14 PHs (2 Removed). Bomies there are many, probally more then 50. And some bomies, on old g2k1 weren't worth even 1k. None PH were worth less then 1k, if I know.

At the time they are. Unless I am mistaken, no bomys have been released yet. So releasing one would probably make it worth more than a player house. *shrug*

MrCharles · #12 09-14-2003, 01:36 AM

I would take a bomy over a PH any day

FreezeBurnX · #13 09-14-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Qwert616

At the time they are. Unless I am mistaken, no bomys have been released yet. So releasing one would probably make it worth more than a player house. *shrug*

At that point your right, only since bomies haven't been released... But if many had been released, it wouldn't be worth a PH depending of the bomy.

FreezeBurnX · #14 09-14-2003, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by MrCharles
I would take a bomy over a PH any day

I wouldn't depending of the bomy. As prize for me, I'd accept any bomy.

--Chris-- · #15 09-14-2003, 06:12 AM

"(...) once you're capable of efficiently managing them (...)
That's not Tseng's Case."

That's not the case!? I can name a million and freakin 1 things he's done for Graal just within this month! Don't make me go berserk here dude. He's done development work on kingdoms daily (including helping me with some things I'm doing), he has fixed a million bugs on 2k1 caused by previous managers, he's helped so many player-worlds with his GST job it isn't even funny. He's one of the people you should have the most appreciation for on all of Graal yet you have the God damn nerve to bash him with no backup. YOU tell me in detail what the hell he has NOT done efficiently.

SaijinGohan · #16 09-14-2003, 06:32 AM

I dont see Tseng a lot but I always see something he does. We are slowly dieing though.

I wish kingdoms would hurry but I guess that means they're gonna be superb I guess. You can never have to many jobs. I work on Bravo, Andor, and G2K1 and do it all within my 4 hour period.

Nappa · #17 09-14-2003, 07:40 AM

Nappa should get appreciation for bring Tseng to graal. Where is the love for Nappa!?!?

Proxy · #18 09-14-2003, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by FreezeBurnX

Events Team, Events Team? She is not ET, she is Asst. Manager. I don't think her event were bad, just that there should be prize, acctually it were fun.

No, she is also an ET member.
If it was so fun, why complain? Not awarding a prize- especially one of that magnitude is unexcuseable.

--Chris-- · #19 09-14-2003, 07:59 AM

<3 for Nappa

Nappa · #20 09-14-2003, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by --Chris--
<3 for Nappa

<3 for Chris

Tseng · #21 09-14-2003, 10:00 AM

Hey, these threads are illegal. I'll let this one go, though, simply because its weak points can be (and have been) easily countered.

Tell me what I'm doing wrong, man.

Otherwise, I can only see two people who've thought it prudent to violate rules (Knux(zs0) and swearing on 2k1, FreezeBurn and trainer usage on Era) and have been punished by me for doing these things, and have decided it's cool to join in (or start) anti-me things.

Keep it up guys, you're just showing how cool and smart you are. Hey, I've got an idea: you should get together every single person I've ever banned, jailed, or warned, and maybe you all could convince a couple of pea-brained idiots that I'm corrupt, or bad at my job, or whatever. Maybe.

Otherwise, kindly stop posting, as you're lowering the intelligence of the rest of the forum-goers a bit more with each excessive sentence you type here.

FreezeBurnX · #22 09-14-2003, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Tseng
Hey, these threads are illegal. I'll let this one go, though, simply because its weak points can be (and have been) easily countered.

Tell me what I'm doing wrong, man.

Otherwise, I can only see two people who've thought it prudent to violate rules (Knux(zs0) and swearing on 2k1, FreezeBurn and trainer usage on Era) and have been punished by me for doing these things, and have decided it's cool to join in (or start) anti-me things.

Keep it up guys, you're just showing how cool and smart you are. Hey, I've got an idea: you should get together every single person I've ever banned, jailed, or warned, and maybe you all could convince a couple of pea-brained idiots that I'm corrupt, or bad at my job, or whatever. Maybe.

Otherwise, kindly stop posting, as you're lowering the intelligence of the rest of the forum-goers a bit more with each excessive sentence you type here.

Ha Tseng, first of all, I didn't use a trainer and Chrisz already unbanned me. Also, my main objective is not talk about you, it's to talk about Angel's Prize, that in case is none. My only complain about Tseng is that he should at least take 5 mins every 30 mins to anwser PMs, I didn't join any anti-you, I just think you got to much work in hands. And how g2k1 people will know what you people do, you people don't announce anywhere...

<3 Nappa

FreezeBurnX · #23 09-14-2003, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Proxy

No, she is also an ET member.
If it was so fun, why complain? Not awarding a prize- especially one of that magnitude is unexcuseable.

I complain because she said there would be a prize and got me at nerves when she said 'I got 1g' and 'I lied'.

Tseng · #24 09-14-2003, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by FreezeBurnX

Ha Tseng, first of all, I didn't use a trainer and Chrisz already unbanned me. Also, my main objective is not talk about you, it's to talk about Angel's Prize, that in case is none. My only complain about Tseng is that he should at least take 5 mins every 30 mins to anwser PMs,

I answer PMs practically all the time. The only times I don't are when I'm scripting something and stop moving on client for a while; I am disconnected for not moving, and all of the PMs sent to my client during that time are lost.

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I didn't join any anti-you, I just think you got to much work in hands.

I wasn't actually implying that a club of people out to get me exists, merely that those are people's tencendies.

How about I be the judge of what's too much work? The thing is, you don't even see the majority of what I do, so how in the world could you even be considered a good judge of that?

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And how g2k1 people will know what you people do, you people don't announce anywhere...

I was supposedly getting access to post news directly to graal2001.com, I'll ask unixmad whatever happened to that. v_v

However, I mass what I'm updating, and sometimes post 'em on the forums as well. The Update Sign in Bomboria is also a useful tool, as we keep it updated.

Androk · #25 09-14-2003, 05:15 PM

PH 6 is Mine. BASTAGE! *stabbing action goes here* It even has a ton of triggers for my account, and I worked on remodeling it to be pretty! DARE NOT SELL IT FOR I'LL HUNT YOU!

*EDIT*

Or you can have it, but the version of the PH will be changed to an old one, or someone has to switch the triggers to be for the owner of the house.

Proxy · #26 09-14-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by FreezeBurnX

Also, my main objective is not talk about you, it's to talk about Angel's Prize, that in case is none.

Then does this not belong in the Events forum under the 'complaint' thread?

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I complain because she said there would be a prize and got me at nerves when she said 'I got 1g' and 'I lied'.

Yes, and that, for an ET, is unexcusable.

FreezeBurnX · #27 09-14-2003, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Tseng

I answer PMs practically all the time. The only times I don't are when I'm scripting something and stop moving on client for a while; I am disconnected for not moving, and all of the PMs sent to my client during that time are lost.

Well, I never get my PMs anwsered...

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Originally posted by Tseng

However, I mass what I'm updating, and sometimes post 'em on the forums as well. The Update Sign in Bomboria is also a useful tool, as we keep it updated.

Please do that, people are leaving because staff don't announce what is coming, like there should be a place that you can see what is coming and maybe a porcentage(%), not only that sign of bomboria, it don't says about Kingdoms coming, etc. Also, why don't you work on some minor stuff too? I only see staff working in big stuff like Kingdoms... Minor stuff are like add some shops with dolls, fun stuff that can entertain... Some trains are lost in the middle of nothing, etc. Also, I guess this bug haven't been fixed, with the new TNT gfx, you can't play some games that include it, that you got to pull the bomb.

FreezeBurnX · #28 09-14-2003, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Androk
PH 6 is Mine. BASTAGE! *stabbing action goes here* It even has a ton of triggers for my account, and I worked on remodeling it to be pretty! DARE NOT SELL IT FOR I'LL HUNT YOU!

*EDIT*

Or you can have it, but the version of the PH will be changed to an old one, or someone has to switch the triggers to be for the owner of the house.

Ehm, I guess you are at wrong place, dude.

Geno · #29 09-14-2003, 07:11 PM

if your main point of this thread was to say that your upset that angel said she would give you a prize and did not, then why did you name it Curroption/Main Problems, when it is clearly not a "Main Problem". All of you call Tseng Corrupt for not answering your PMs? Get a dictionary and look up the word corrupt, i assure you it says nothing about answering PMs in there.
If you want to place a complant on angel go to the graal 2001 Events Forum. It even has a thread that is sticked for this very purpose.

FreezeBurnX · #30 09-14-2003, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Geno
if your main point of this thread was to say that your upset that angel said she would give you a prize and did not, then why did you name it Curroption/Main Problems, when it is clearly not a "Main Problem". All of you call Tseng Corrupt for not answering your PMs? Get a dictionary and look up the word corrupt, i assure you it says nothing about answering PMs in there.
If you want to place a complant on angel go to the graal 2001 Events Forum. It even has a thread that is sticked for this very purpose.

Corruption=Angel
Main Problem=G2k1 Dying

Googi · #31 09-14-2003, 08:07 PM

I doubt that Angel would hold an event for a PH...

Minoc · #32 09-14-2003, 08:50 PM

Angel's mass:

Opposite (9/11/2003 6:20:39 PM):

Mass message:
Kill the dragon WIN A PRIZE

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That's it :O

FreezeBurnX · #33 09-14-2003, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by Minoc
Angel's mass:

Opposite (9/11/2003 6:20:39 PM):

Mass message:
Kill the dragon WIN A PRIZE

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That's it :O

Minoc, remember that I killed her but she had normal life, then I asked for PH, and she said that it would be ok, for PH, but she would have 500 life.

--Chris-- · #34 09-14-2003, 09:58 PM

I don't think anyone including Tseng has to answer all of their pms

I get some really stupid things sometimes and ignore 'em too ^-^ Oh and FreezeBurn, do you even have a log or screenshot of Angel saying this? Minoc has one of her not and even if she did say it to you individually, do you really think it's fair for the rest of players? Like I've said before she may not have been aware of the worth or recently realised what exactly she has done so just have some understanding, take something else as compensation and shut it.

FreezeBurnX · #35 09-14-2003, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by --Chris--
I don't think anyone including Tseng has to answer all of their pms I get some really stupid things sometimes and ignore 'em too ^-^

I know, some PMs deserved to be ignored, but some don't.

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Originally posted by --Chris--
Oh and FreezeBurn, do you even have a log or screenshot of Angel saying this?

No, you can ask her, I don't believe she will lie >.>

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Originally posted by --Chris--
(...) take something else as compensation and shut it.

This is what I've been trying to get all the time, I just want a fair compensation.

Zurkiba · #36 09-14-2003, 11:02 PM

Zurkiba for Manager

--Chris-- · #37 09-15-2003, 12:33 AM

I believe 200g is pretty good.
*bish slaps Zurk* <3

Angel · #38 09-15-2003, 03:46 AM

FreezeBurnX. First of all I never said yes to a PH. I said yes to a villa. When you bought your first villa. What did I do? I redid the level Made it larger cause I felt bad that you paid too much for one. So I made it nicer. And When I said 1g It was a joke.

. If you wanted your prize maybe you should of talked to me about alternate insteed of talking it to the forums in a attempt to make me look bad????

--Chris-- · #39 09-15-2003, 09:29 AM

Note to Angel: Villas are worth more than PHs and are meant to be small.

I think a Villa enhancement is more than enough of a good prize personally...

Chrismas · #40 09-15-2003, 10:32 AM

Oh yes the whole G2K1 staff crew is all corrupt. Yep.. sure.. is.. yea- but honestly this is one of the best crews working on PW's out there, there is rarely any huge problems out there that isn't fixed, sure theres low player-counts but its a new PW and it has to (re)prove itself as a good PW.