Pisses me off. Really does

Zethar · #1 08-22-2003, 06:55 AM

People get like 137k in one trip selling stuff to stores! like wtf. I know this recipe for these potions they make but COME ON. This is just stupid. I'd like to give thanks to iSplash for all this he has created! I sold my forest shield to him for 140k because I thought it was a good deal. I found out he's made that much money again in about 10 minutes!. But does he stop there, no he preads this recipe ALL over. People with about 10 hours have upwards to 200k now. I'm so gonna quit this orrupt little game.

hey_heeyyy · #2 08-22-2003, 07:06 AM

Yea, well the economy in Kingdoms is going to be like the economy in Era. Prices are way up. Like on Era, guns would go up to 200k, about a million for the event gun. If people start to make plat, whats the point of plat? No one would sell their items for plat because they could just make it, so they would rather trade it...how will the people without special items get special items then?

graaliholic · #3 08-22-2003, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by Zethar
People get like 137k in one trip selling stuff to stores! like wtf. I know this recipe for these potions they make but COME ON. This is just stupid. I'd like to give thanks to iSplash for all this he has created! I sold my forest shield to him for 140k because I thought it was a good deal. I found out he's made that much money again in about 10 minutes!. But does he stop there, no he preads this recipe ALL over. People with about 10 hours have upwards to 200k now. I'm so gonna quit this orrupt little game.

What is this recipe or whatever that's getting him so much money?

hey_heeyyy · #4 08-22-2003, 07:11 AM

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What is this recipe or whatever that's getting him so much money?

I think its the potion of life or something like that.

graaliholic · #5 08-22-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by hey_heeyyy

I think its the potion of life or something like that.

I remember making potions of life back when you could rename keys to other things, but it required a unicorn horn, and graal doesnt have any unicorns.

hey_heeyyy · #6 08-22-2003, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by graaliholic

I remember making potions of life back when you could rename keys to other things, but it required a unicorn horn, and graal doesnt have any unicorns.

I think you can still rename keys. All you gotta do is /mark <key name>
and then /use_skill inscription <What you want the name to be>

Python523 · #7 08-22-2003, 08:25 AM

anyone who continues to abuse this gets punished tomorow when I have the alchemy logs checked

syltburk · #8 08-22-2003, 03:46 PM

abusers of bugs...

i got 100k but i worked realy hard for them blessing swords all the freakin time >O my hand was like destroyed lol

skyler87 · #9 08-22-2003, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Python523
anyone who continues to abuse this gets punished tomorow when I have the alchemy logs checked

Maybe staff shouldn't have made the recipe in the first place?
It isn't the people fault they found it, it's yours for making it.
As for the economy, it's...erm...gone.
I won't sell anything for plat, ever again. Never. Under no circumstances. Won't happen. No way. Only trade from now on. Kthx,bai.

Snakeandy7 · #10 08-22-2003, 04:27 PM

Should have bug's people on GK, there is alot of money crack's:P

Admins · #11 08-22-2003, 04:34 PM

You could as well report the bug and get it removed

syltburk · #12 08-22-2003, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Stefan
You could as well report the bug and get it removed

Wisdom words by stefan.

Python523 · #13 08-22-2003, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by skyler87

Maybe staff shouldn't have made the recipe in the first place?
It isn't the people fault they found it, it's yours for making it.
As for the economy, it's...erm...gone.
I won't sell anything for plat, ever again. Never. Under no circumstances. Won't happen. No way. Only trade from now on. Kthx,bai.

We don't know everything in the mudlib, stefan didn't make all of it.

skyler87 · #14 08-22-2003, 05:36 PM

Well, many of them who use the recipe didn't know that staff would be upset about it, so I ask that you go easy on them.

Python523 · #15 08-22-2003, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by skyler87
Well, many of them who use the recipe didn't know that staff would be upset about it, so I ask that you go easy on them.

my common sense tells me that I shouldn't be using a thing that will let me make more than 100k plat in a short ammount of time and that it will upset the economy

Torankusu · #16 08-22-2003, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Python523

my common sense tells me that I shouldn't be using a thing that will let me make more than 100k plat in a short ammount of time and that it will upset the economy

truths.

Plus, the bug was reported.

Zethar · #17 08-22-2003, 08:48 PM

I reported the bug at support.graalonline.com but i'm sure someone did it quicker. By the way, I know this is a very slim chance but I sold my forest shield for alot of plat (well at the time which was about an hour before this happened) and then I found out how he made all of the money. And he tells everyon the recipe so now i'm without my shield and for now a petty amount of money. Is there any chance I could get it back? =(

skyler87 · #18 08-22-2003, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by Python523

my common sense tells me that I shouldn't be using a thing that will let me make more than 100k plat in a short ammount of time and that it will upset the economy

It's alchemy for crying out loud!
Did you ever think that maybe he thought that he had made some big discovery?
Maybe, something to make him rich? Something noone else knew about? Why the HELL do you make alchemist a class if you are going to reset people who find good recipes? This is unjust, and is really starting to piss me off.

Python523 · #19 08-22-2003, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by skyler87

It's alchemy for crying out loud!
Did you ever think that maybe he thought that he had made some big discovery?
Maybe, something to make him rich? Something noone else knew about? Why the HELL do you make alchemist a class if you are going to reset people who find good recipes? This is unjust, and is really starting to piss me off.

it is not unjust, in fact I checked the recepies list, the recepie shouldn't have even existed, it was a bug in the mudlib checksum that allowed you to create this recepie even though it wasn't with the right materials

graaliholic · #20 08-22-2003, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Python523

it is not unjust, in fact I checked the recepies list, the recepie shouldn't have even existed, it was a bug in the mudlib checksum that allowed you to create this recepie even though it wasn't with the right materials

It was a bug that allowed you to make mithril chain, full helms, cloaks of all sorts, but those are still around, although the recipe is not, which doesn't make sense. Should either be allow them to exist and have more made or take them out. Not take out the ability to make them and leave everything that was made.

skyler87 · #21 08-23-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Python523

it is not unjust, in fact I checked the recepies list, the recepie shouldn't have even existed, it was a bug in the mudlib checksum that allowed you to create this recepie even though it wasn't with the right materials

And the players who used the recipe were supposed to automaticaly have this knowledge stored in their brains, right?
Who DOESN'T have the entire recipe list?

Torankusu · #22 08-23-2003, 12:31 AM

reset GK.
it is the only way.

Shroomed · #23 08-23-2003, 01:08 AM

Just reset ALL money and valueble items, and just have all the valueable items as event items. Problem solved.

graaliholic · #24 08-23-2003, 01:19 AM

Reset the server, stop giving out overpowered Items, and instead make more quests in order to get said items.

skyler87 · #25 08-23-2003, 01:49 AM

A reset would do no good. The same thing would happen all over again. I don't see how it couldn't. Someone always finds a bug, a corrupt admin will always make some strong weapons noone else can get, event items will be the most powerful, even though there are no events.

graaliholic · #26 08-23-2003, 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by skyler87
A reset would do no good. The same thing would happen all over again. I don't see how it couldn't. Someone always finds a bug, a corrupt admin will always make some strong weapons noone else can get, event items will be the most powerful, even though there are no events.

Bugs get fixed, a corrupt admin will be fired, the items will be deleted.

hey_heeyyy · #27 08-23-2003, 02:40 AM

Why is EVERYTHING getting resetted? I mean, how do you get more exp from making so much plat? Maybe buying cheap scrolls and reading them like I've seen people do, but that doesnt give you much...so we all worked hard for all these exp points and its going down the drain? So all that time spent trying to kill lords with prayer spells WASTED? Damn thats...Whoever made the recipe for it shall die lol

Zethar · #28 08-23-2003, 04:33 AM

I vote reset. I've also worked hard waterlord. But a balanced server is alot more fun than an unbalanced one no? Yes, there would be sacrafices. But I mean, think about how much better it would be? I think the ONLY ones who should not favor a reset are DragonX and MarkB but from what I see they're somewhat in favor to it. You spent NONE of your time coming across RoS/RoW you FOUND them when you walked into stores.

I'ma gonna be flamed

Torankusu · #29 08-23-2003, 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by skyler87
A reset would do no good. The same thing would happen all over again. I don't see how it couldn't. Someone always finds a bug, a corrupt admin will always make some strong weapons noone else can get, event items will be the most powerful, even though there are no events.

Well in that case let's just shut down GK to prevent any of that from happening.

Python523 · #30 08-23-2003, 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by skyler87

And the players who used the recipe were supposed to automaticaly have this knowledge stored in their brains, right?
Who DOESN'T have the entire recipe list?

Perhaps I am overestimating the intelligence of the average player. I thought it would be SAFE to assume that people would think it ISN'T right to be able to make the amount of money it took people who DIDN'T abuse the bug the best of a few months, when the people who DID abuse it made the amount in less than 24 hours.

Torankusu · #31 08-23-2003, 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by Python523

Perhaps I am overestimating the intelligence of the average player. I thought it would be SAFE to assume that people would think it ISN'T right to be able to make the amount of money it took people who DIDN'T abuse the bug the best of a few months, when the people who DID abuse it made the amount in less than 24 hours.

People on graal automatically assume that anything on GK that they can use to their advantage to boost something of value to them, they can use legitimately because "it's there." I don't think people should be punished individually for using the potion of life thing, I do think it was a bad way to get plat, but it WAS in fact there, but people DID take advantage of it, and there's no surefire way to pinpoint all of the platinum coins released. It could be classified as bug abuse if the recipe was not to be that easy to make or even on the server, yeah, that's fair. I still don't think people should have used it though and kept it to themsevles to claim Platinum Powahz.

Zethar · #32 08-23-2003, 05:53 AM

Jagen when you said 24 hours try 24 minutes x.x All most people do on graal is try to cheat their way to the top. I do NOT mean everyone, a good portion of you are all very fair

Admins · #33 08-24-2003, 04:56 AM

That recipe didnt exist, and it should be easy understandable that making so much money in so less time is at least a glitch, and abusing bugs or glitches is not allowed. Playing unfairly is against the rules too.
If someone accidently did that alchemy thing or just wanted to test it for fun then it's probably ok (after giving back the money made), the other people should cooperate and help destroying the money they made with that bug/glitch.

Torankusu · #34 08-24-2003, 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan
That recipe didnt exist, and it should be easy understandable that making so much money in so less time is at least a glitch, and abusing bugs or glitches is not allowed. Playing unfairly is against the rules too.
If someone accidently did that alchemy thing or just wanted to test it for fun then it's probably ok (after giving back the money made), the other people should cooperate and help destroying the money they made with that bug/glitch.

I really disapprove of the fact of me being the one that tested to see if it really worked consecutively, and I reported the bug, yet you BANNED me? Kind of harsh, don't you think?

graaliholic · #35 08-24-2003, 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan
That recipe didnt exist, and it should be easy understandable that making so much money in so less time is at least a glitch, and abusing bugs or glitches is not allowed. Playing unfairly is against the rules too.
If someone accidently did that alchemy thing or just wanted to test it for fun then it's probably ok (after giving back the money made), the other people should cooperate and help destroying the money they made with that bug/glitch.

What are the odds of getting someone to make new alchemy recipes and take out the old ones?

Torankusu · #36 08-24-2003, 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by graaliholic

What are the odds of getting someone to make new alchemy recipes and take out the old ones?

I'm sure some people would be willing to do it for free if given a list of items that could be created using alchemy. (DX, I'd do it if asked, anU could do it, etc, there are several people: Debug staff.)

Admins · #37 08-24-2003, 05:04 AM

I didn't ban you, I only played a little bit with my RC. I was little bit annoyed by people like HolyBlade_Owner who made 140 potions of life at once and such things x-x If someone knows such glitch then he should keep it secret and use it for fun, and report it then, instead of abusing it and telling everyone and so destroying the fun for the other people. Finding all the money made with that glitch probably takes more time than scripting & drawing 3 new monsters.

graaliholic · #38 08-24-2003, 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
I'm sure some people would be willing to do it for free if given a list of items that could be created using alchemy. (DX, I'd do it if asked, anU could do it, etc, there are several people: Debug staff.)

I wanna do it :P I doubt I would be allowed to though

Admins · #39 08-24-2003, 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
I'm sure some people would be willing to do it for free if given a list of items that could be created using alchemy. (DX, I'd do it if asked, anU could do it, etc, there are several people: Debug staff.)

Some staff started to work on that, never seen results though :/
The recipes could be remade using existing items as ingredients and existing monster types, then I could change some numbers (so that the recipe-maker can't abuse it) and then replace the old recipes.

Torankusu · #40 08-24-2003, 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan
I didn't ban you, I only played a little bit with my RC.

i find that funny, hehe.

Well then who banned me? I was banned for "abusing a bug" when you PMed me asking me where the money I had off of the potions was.