prayers

[Satrek2000]

is there any (complete) list of avaliable prayers (and spells) out there, maybe along with level or some other informations, maybe about what they do or what they summon, that kind of stuff... maybe it's just me but I think there's more arround than what was listed here somewhere... don't beat me anyway...

[DragonX]

There are more prayers but not all dietys are released and probably won't be till the final GK server. You can ask around or mass to see what certain prayers do and you can compile a list but I don't think 1 person has every prayer.

[zell12]

Yes, there are alot more prayers. I'd take the list from debug, but, you should find out for yourself. The god names now are the ones Unixmad got from another version.

[Satrek2000]

Originally posted by zell12
Yes, there are alot more prayers. I'd take the list from debug, but, you should find out for yourself. The god names now are the ones Unixmad got from another version.

I saw that DianCecht is supposed to be replaced by someone similar with stuff that works - are they all to be replaced, or at least renamed?
Anyway, I wouldn't mind finding out myself (once I'm back in range a graal-capable computer) but I think it'd be hard to compile a list of each and every high-level-prayer, considering how rare they are in shops, so a list of names might come in handy, but either way, I will try, thanks.

[Tyhm]

Ideally they'd get refurbished...

[Satrek2000]

So in effect (or an ideal world) everything described here is worth zero when the final server comes out? °°

EDIT: on second thought - a list of prayers, at least their names, would come in really handy, as spotting them all in shops would take ages - also, I found it hard in the avaliable list to tell what's spell and what's prayer for some entrys... hence I'd apreciate any list someone could give me, either way (I'm also interested in spells, and gfx of spells and prayers, but I guess nobody would actually send me some...

[zell12]

Oh, what do you mean Tyhm?

[Tyhm]

Meaning instead of the gods just being ripoffs of the source gods, they'd be Graal related gods. Bruges, Vangel, Mandi, Galen, Weapon, Fung Si Yan, Mathias...

[zell12]

Oh yeah, you spoke of this idea before on debug, which I told you was a cool one.

[Kaiser2]

*cough*VladTaltosforgod*cough*

[Satrek2000]

Hm... as classic isn't really welcome arround here I won't propose JZ for god of weirdos... anyway, couldn't anyone provide me with a list to base my researches upon?

[Tyhm]

Oldschool Classic. Nostalgia or G2K0 are good references. The gods, naturally, are listed here; their new names and attributes should be reinvented, methinks.

Mathias would be God of Smithing, replacing Moraidin (Govannon).
Vangel would be The Archangel, replacing Heironeous (DianCecht).
Bruges would be God of Lightning, replacing...Leucitious I guess.
Mandi would replace Brigid as Goddess of Peace/Art
Galen would replace Aengus as God of Luck/Chance/Chaos
Hee hee, Ragna rok would replace Bile as God of Death (Why the hell is that still censored?)
Balor would be removed (as Slay Angel is kind of silly) and replaced with an entirely different Fire god. Sardon, maybe.

All useless spells and effects would be replaced with useful spells and effects - ie Brigid is the useless god of nonviolence who grants nothing, Mandi would grant Color Spray, Wonder, a lot of really good baddy-stunning Support spells. Possibly a spell that transforms baddies into something cute, so that they can still be considered the victors in a solo battle when all their teammates are died - their teammates weaken the Evil Bomy Lord, then the Priestess of Mandi stuns the beast, creeps up behind it, and turns it into a squirrel which waddles innocently away.
Vangel's "Sun Spear" attack would either be finished, or replaced with Mana Bolt.
Sardon's "Slay Angel" attribute would be replaced with a reasonable damage attack. Here's a crazy idea, maybe FIRE?!?
Luck would apply for random item placement or be replaced with a dex bonus - you either get luckier in terms of what you get, or you get luckier in terms of dodging and placing hits.

Avatars, I am told, are coming...

[Kaiser2]

Sorig = Leucetious, and you missed Gnarg/Ogma.
I like the rest of your ideas though, but I think Brigid shouldn't be the god of peace/nature, but the god of protection of peace/nature (there is a MAJOR difference betweem those two things.) Like, she would prevent you from using weapons, yes, but her focus would be on a strong mage, so, like, her spells would be support, of course, but she would have strong attacking spells too, maybe instead of attacking, but defensive, like, if you get attacked or something, then the spell activates, you know?

[Tyhm]

Ogma = God of Poison...hm. Sneaky assassins in Graal's history. They tend to be villain-players, who tend to be persona non grata after the go AntiGraal. Lycia would be perfect, but I don't think we really want to elevate her to deityhood.

Yeah, Sorig=Leucitious=Bruges. The appropriate artifacts would be renamed as well.

Who's Carmen anyway? A formername of an extant god? What's their story?

I'm sticking to my guns on Mandi being the goddess of fluffy bunny slippers. All the other gods have attack-based spells, there's no sense whatsoever in making yet another defensive-attack god just like all the rest. There's one god for people who want to play priests as nonviolent, and that's a good thing.

[Kaiser2]

Carmen = anti-Mandi >:]
Instead doesn't allow you to wear armor, but you have like a perma-armor spell in effect on you, don't know the other bonuses, but as you level up, physical resistance can reach obscene amounts, so you're still lightweight (but have no speed bonuses from alchemy armor or whatnot, since you can't wear it.)