graal not what it used to be

shaggy_elven · #1 11-26-2002, 04:23 AM

i loved graal i been playing it for 4 years but over the time it has changed

i always like how simple everything was and not so complex

i miss old classic i think it was really cool but the new one is all technology

that pisses me off

i remember that 1 day the krakken quest worked and i went in the to kill that crab or something
and the lvl 3 sword was sacred

then came 2k1
it was really cool and always full until they kept recreating hats
and copying the old ones

yet... came 2k2 i dont like it that much

too annoying and too complex

i just wish graal was simple again b4 2k1
it was really cool

i remember all the pking and parties and when bomys were showed

the best of all was probably the wandering around and how cool the staff was

Cid_Night · #2 11-26-2002, 04:26 AM

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Originally posted by shaggy_elven

answer to prayers=playerworlds

shaggy_elven · #3 11-26-2002, 04:27 AM

they try to be complex i want old classic not the new and *** 1

brock128 · #4 11-26-2002, 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by Cid_Night

answer to prayers=playerworlds

Playerworlds are REALLY low quality. Nothing to replace classic, which is pretty dead-esq right now.

AlexH · #5 11-26-2002, 05:08 AM

I doubt an old classic type of player world would get up.
The level standards have risen greatly so unless the server had great quests, NPCs etc it wouldn't get far.

Scalper · #6 11-26-2002, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by shaggy_elven
they try to be complex i want old classic not the new and *** 1

The only reason I'm here today is because I enjoyed playing Classic. I liked logging on and just either sparring, pking or chatting. That's what I liked, the community sense and the fun of fighting. Getting hearts/items is more like a nuisance than anything to me, as well as annoying npcs (trident anyone?). What made the server fun was logging on and talking to friends, pking/fighting with your guild, sparring, pking, and other hijinks. I really disliked questing or anything liked that, i only quested to keep up with the current heartcount/swordlevel/sheildlevel. In fact, when i first started I had another person get all my items for me.

I hope I'm not alone when I feel that Graal is here today because of how much people enjoyed classic...how is used to be. But now it's changed. We have all these NPCs and this whole race system. Why change what has gained Graal the popularity it has earned over the years? I went on the other day after a year of not playing and found a certain number of players regain health when they kill you. Here I am with my 3 hearts (pk tag) fighting some 10 heart person who regains every heart (regardless of ap) after he hits me twice.

What classic has turned into really makes me sad. The team has worked very hard and made some very nice things, but classic should be classic, not some RPG mutant of which it has become.

Sorry to sound more like a rant than anything, but that's what I feel about the classic server and it's current state. I really wish I could go back in time to 1.31 which to me was the hightlight of my entire Graal experience.

Cid_Night · #7 11-26-2002, 05:13 AM

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Originally posted by brock128

Playerworlds are REALLY low quality. Nothing to replace classic, which is pretty dead-esq right now.

I don't think thats true at all..In what way are playerworlds low quality? Many of them are better then classic, depending upon a player's preference.

Cynicism · #8 11-26-2002, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by brock128

Playerworlds are REALLY low quality. Nothing to replace classic, which is pretty dead-esq right now.

Not all playerworlds are low quality. Albeit there are some of them that shouldn't be up there, there are quite a few of them that have done nicely. I've been on Era for the past few days, and even though they're far from complete, they have something that is different, and fun. Also, I've gone on different playerworlds from time to time, and some of them show good improvement, and some don't. Doomsday, and Delteria have nice content on them, and so does N-Pulse. And to the upcoming playerworlds that are in private, I do applaud them for getting as far as they are now.

Yes, Graal is changing. I for one was not here in those 1.31 days, so I cannot say that I appreciate what Graal was; though if I had the chance to experience playing in that peice of Graal's history, I would. However, it's not the levels, the npc's or the overall content: It's the community. For example, even though Mithica wasn't the most popular playerworld, it is where I played all the time. Other playerworlds had content that far surpassed Mithica's, but that didn't matter at all to me whatsoever, because I enjoyed Mithica's community.

Some people do not like how Graal has changed, and thus you have the oldbies leaving, and to take their place you have all these newcomers to Graal, whom will one day become legendary in their own right. What people seem to long for is lost friends who they once had fun with on Graal. They want that timeframe back so that they can be amongst familiar faces, having the fun they once did. Which is why I think (but could be very wrong) that if the community of Graal was a more stagnant one, then people wouldn't have that much of a problem with it's changes.

Scalper · #9 11-26-2002, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by Cynicism

They want that timeframe back so that they can be amongst familiar faces, having the fun they once did.

In my case, nope. I see plenty of old friends, and I meet new people all the time. I just dislike what changes that classic has gone through. If people want something else , they'll go to a playerworld. Many players played Graal because they liked the way things were, why do they have to change? I mean, logically if you have a product that is well liked, and you built an empire from, would you change that to something else, when people are happy with how it is?

Timpan3 · #10 11-26-2002, 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by Cynicism

They want that timeframe back so that they can be amongst familiar faces, having the fun they once did.

That is EXACTLY what I want back, SICKENLY exact!

Brad · #11 11-26-2002, 06:38 AM

It was definately the community. EL had the worst levels/staff/npcs and yet it was SO much fun because of all your friends.

Tyhm · #12 11-26-2002, 06:57 AM

Community yes, but also newness. You can never have the newness back. Classic will never again be new to you the way it was when you just started playing. The old levels would not help this phenomenon...

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #13 11-26-2002, 08:06 AM

Okay you nostalgic bunch. Who's heard of innovation?

Scalper · #14 11-26-2002, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Okay you nostalgic bunch. Who's heard of innovation?

Yes, innovation being Graal 2001 + 2002.

Delteria_Free18 · #15 11-26-2002, 12:13 PM

I think the problem lies in the attitude of the staffers... too many mean people