Revision 4

Admins · #1 10-16-2002, 07:05 AM

By testing the exe with people who have some weird graphics cards (Loriel

) we found the problems with the light effects, so download revision 4 to get the thing fixed. Tomorrow the old version (2.15) will be disabled. You already need it to play on Graal2002, to see the hp bar and stuff.

About the different animations in the new starting level and switching back to old classic animations when playing your own levels:
Just start the game correctly in editing mode, by double-clicking on a level file in the windows explorer (file association). Then you will have all the normal settings.

AlexH · #2 10-16-2002, 07:12 AM

*Goes to download new revision*
Click!
*crosses fingers*

Yay for Loriel and his weird but similarly weird graphics card as mine.
And yay for Stefan for knowing how to fix it.

EliteDeath · #3 10-16-2002, 07:41 AM

Stefan, the system is still incompatible with the HP MP system on Valikorlia for some reason, do you think you could help fix it?

EliteDeath · #4 10-16-2002, 07:51 AM

I just had someone hit my char, with the new revision he dies in one hit on there, and he does not reappear. Can you please fix this before forcing the new version on us?

Rance_P2P · #5 10-16-2002, 08:22 AM

This is mostly to Stefan, and Guilds Admin.

First off, Stefan, Why don't you make it so, that players can make thier own tutorial levels... As NAT Chief on Doomsday, I think it would be wise that I can start, and have some NPCs to debug other NPCs right from the start...

What is all this talk about Servers going down? How are you going to inspect the servers? It's quite hard to know what pleases one as a individual.... Quite complex!

Also, I just made a guild up "Gate Keepers", and I can't seem to put on my tag, other then G2K2's server! I don't have any contact means to the Guild Admin, or any admins since you took down the Staff page... I am wondering if it's only my guild, or all guilds created after some time... Seeing I saw a friend have his global guild tag too! Can you clear that up too?

As for RC... The RC has a really annoying glitch. It takes off our staff tag each time you log on... I think that is done seeing you made it only check the global tags, and not the server guilds... It would be a good time to fix that bug.

I was going to talk to you about the messed up graphics, but I think that you fixed it already, Thanks!

- Rance

davidpsy · #6 10-16-2002, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rance_P2P
This is mostly to Stefan, and Guilds Admin.

First off, Stefan, Why don't you make it so, that players can make thier own tutorial levels... As NAT Chief on Doomsday, I think it would be wise that I can start, and have some NPCs to debug other NPCs right from the start...

What is all this talk about Servers going down? How are you going to inspect the servers? It's quite hard to know what pleases one as a individual.... Quite complex!

Also, I just made a guild up "Gate Keepers", and I can't seem to put on my tag, other then G2K2's server! I don't have any contact means to the Guild Admin, or any admins since you took down the Staff page... I am wondering if it's only my guild, or all guilds created after some time... Seeing I saw a friend have his global guild tag too! Can you clear that up too?

As for RC... The RC has a really annoying glitch. It takes off our staff tag each time you log on... I think that is done seeing you made it only check the global tags, and not the server guilds... It would be a good time to fix that bug.

I was going to talk to you about the messed up graphics, but I think that you fixed it already, Thanks!

- Rance

YEAH!!!

Judge_Spunky · #7 10-16-2002, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Perhaps Stefan could make a separate executable that just runs the exe with an argument that tells it to open a tutorial level. Then the normal executable could be made to instantly connect to the server list as soon as it is run, and people would stop doing weird things like going through the tutorial to reach the level editor.

I suggested something along those lines in the Future Improvements forum.

Glory · #8 10-16-2002, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
By testing the exe with people who have some weird graphics cards (Loriel ) we found the problems with the light effects, so download revision 4 to get the thing fixed. Tomorrow the old version (2.15) will be disabled. You already need it to play on Graal2002, to see the hp bar and stuff.

About the different animations in the new starting level and switching back to old classic animations when playing your own levels:
Just start the game correctly in editing mode, by double-clicking on a level file in the windows explorer (file association). Then you will have all the normal settings.

Would be NICE if I could actually download it...

SSJVegeta1 · #9 10-16-2002, 12:49 PM

yeah, sorry but my lights still don;t work

CyberX · #10 10-17-2002, 02:18 AM

Lights are fine now...

Rance_P2P · #11 10-17-2002, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Listen to me: The tutorial level is a tutorial. You use it if you want to be tutored. If you want to edit levels, open the levels. With the level editor. It makes sense, y'know?

Perhaps Stefan could make a separate executable that just runs the exe with an argument that tells it to open a tutorial level. Then the normal executable could be made to instantly connect to the server list as soon as it is run, and people would stop doing weird things like going through the tutorial to reach the level editor.

Some servers are worthless junk. They should go down. Again, it makes sense.

.. That's bad... Making things complex to the new users... And wasting a COMPLETE EXE file size only for tests? That's insane! Waste of a lot of space. However, making it so that you can replace the Tutorials levels would be better, you wouldn't need to run anything specail. Maybe he can put it in the options,

Tutorial Level: [levelname] (DEFAULT)

Something like that, it would increase a lot of chances of less argueing and more power!

I don't know about you... But once I see the test levels, I've seen it!

BTW Stefan, I can mess up you levels pretty much ^_^ You see, I just need to save an empty level as the tutorial level name, and play it, rego in the Level Editor, and it would open up your level! Thou, we can only chance the hieght of the levels, it can still mess up a lot. Thinking of making that not do that? And... Stefan... Can you do me a favor... Fix the .EXE File so that...
1. The Offline levels are messed up by your tutorial level...
2. The lights work... Not only lights2.png >,.,<

That'll do for now

-Rance

Rance_P2P · #12 10-17-2002, 03:54 AM

Forgot to say...

Removing the servers is semi-good, semi-bad.
I've been playing this game for fairly 3 years, and removing the access to host our own server was one bad thing... But that was then, this is now. They've suffered... Some people still have those RCs out there! Those were the sweet RCs... Well, the ones we have now scares me! Well.. At least it's functional...

Semi-Bad - You don't know how hard someone works on a Server, some of them got grounded for working on it too much... As for some bad? Well.. Not all of them are bad, and they would get closed anyways... I accept the ones that have 1 player per day, which is NPC Server... But... Some of them just don't rise, even thou they are good, only for the simple reason of players go were players are. They wouldn't go on a server with no-one...

Semi-Good - Yes, good as in.. We'll focus more on other servers... But, we'll mix too much tastes, thus making staff argue... Maybe Merging some current servers with others, or upcoming ones would do good, but... Already upcoming servers are mostly made by players who have jobs on current servers today...

Well... That's about all...

-Axel- · #13 10-17-2002, 05:16 AM

Graal worked fine for me, but now with Revision 4, I suffer the lighting effect (Lights have a semi-box surrounding them now) problem, and my inventory on 2k2 is see through =/.....

Funky people with crappy GFX crads causing my graal to mess up =P J/k, I wub you all.

AlexH · #14 10-17-2002, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -Axel-
Graal worked fine for me, but now with Revision 4, I suffer the lighting effect (Lights have a semi-box surrounding them now) problem, and my inventory on 2k2 is see through =/.....

Funky people with crappy GFX crads causing my graal to mess up =P J/k, I wub you all.

Your supposed to be able to see through your Q menu.
Transparacy was added.

-Axel- · #15 10-17-2002, 05:32 AM

Ok, well then the lighting effects are still messed up. (Unless now the Candle light is glitched x_X)

I sorta liked how the new Q menu looked anyway, just thought something was wrong =P