Who Is Co-Owner Of Enigma?!

Multiflame · #1 06-06-2002, 06:51 PM

Hello all i as wondering who was co-owner of enigma?!.
Because i got talking to cynadine and he said he quit to make his own player world.But i forgot to ask him who was going to be co-owner?
Place ur suggestions and maybe WC will tell us

I dont think the pw would get put down because of its excellent scripts.And the levels are original So there is no need in posting or pming people saying
"Enigma is getting shut down"or"Enigma is getting put down because it hasnt got a co-owner"
Because You dont know!.

Multiflame · #2 06-06-2002, 07:19 PM

Any 1?

RavenTelvecho · #3 06-06-2002, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Multiflame
Hello all i as wondering who was co-owner of enigma?!.
Because i got talking to cynadine and he said he quit to make his own player world.But i forgot to ask him who was going to be co-owner?
Place ur suggestions and maybe WC will tell us
I dont think the pw would get put down because of its excellent scripts.And the levels are original So there is no need in posting or pming people saying
"Enigma is getting shut down"or"Enigma is getting put down because it hasnt got a co-owner"
Because You dont know!.

Raven:... a pw doesnt need a co owner. I think WC is doing fine by himself. All pws dont have a co owner nor need one.

Multiflame · #4 06-06-2002, 09:30 PM

o.O But i think enigma needs 1

InfernoOfFury · #5 06-07-2002, 02:30 AM

Enigma's Co-Owner is Cyanide, he is not only one of the coolest guys on graal ever but he works his rear off for Enigma, hes only 15 and hes got all these responsibilites and hes got my full respect for someone his age.

SinNetherwind · #6 06-07-2002, 03:08 AM

Mmmkay heres the deal, starit from a long time EG staff (me)

Cyanide WAS co owner for over a year, and yea he was a cool guy and stuff. he worked harder then any staff there and all, but 2 days ago he decided he needed to quit Enigma... again. what he did was get alot of anti-WC people in a chat room, and give them fake RC logs he made of WC saying crap about people (they arnt real) and all this, Xilo and Ne0 were like the only people sticking u for him. Then Cyanide gave out WC's phone number which got massed out, and yea thats about it. Cyanide butchered WC's trust and was without a doubt, fired and banned. I talked to Cyanide and he says he feels bad he left so..... immaturily, and he and someone who must remain nameless are making a PW. as of the moment, EG has no co owner but has some admins (Sir Kwang, Hack, Ne0 and I think thats it..) Binary Crash was going to be the co-owner but he left to Maloria. thats about it..

Okilian · #7 06-07-2002, 03:12 AM

There are some out there that don't have a co....and live till the next day...

InfernoOfFury · #8 06-07-2002, 03:17 AM

Thats horrible from what ive been told =/ I feel sorry for both WC and Cy, but Cy shouldnt have done that. Although Cy and I both worked on Enigma and I was LAT Admin and it was good working with him and Im gonna miss working with him. WC on the otherhand is a cool fellow but there is some things that should remain unsaid about him that I think ALOT of us either have heard through rumors or through personal experiences so yea enough said...

SinNetherwind · #9 06-07-2002, 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by InfernoOfFury
Thats horrible from what ive been told =/ I feel sorry for both WC and Cy, but Cy shouldnt have done that. Although Cy and I both worked on Enigma and I was LAT Admin and it was good working with him and Im gonna miss working with him. WC on the otherhand is a cool fellow but there is some things that should remain unsaid about him that I think ALOT of us either have heard through rumors or through personal experiences so yea enough said...

Nothing is wrong with WC. people jsut dont get the way he does things. Never since i have known him has he done somethign stupid that messes up. He is brilliant if you ask me, and he has his grand scheme of things under control. most jsut dont get that ans say bad things about him

Logo · #10 06-07-2002, 04:13 AM

Warcaptain is ok, but should not be the leader of something. and i know who teamed up with Cyanide

Yakuna2001 · #11 06-07-2002, 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by SinNetherwind

Nothing is wrong with WC. people jsut dont get the way he does things. Never since i have known him has he done somethign stupid that messes up. He is brilliant if you ask me, and he has his grand scheme of things under control. most jsut dont get that ans say bad things about him

k, i wont bring up the time he deleted all of the bravo levels because he didnt get level3 rc, oh, then theres the time he wen to every server massing out the link to a website with alot of servers levels on. heh, gee hes real great

Warcaptain · #12 06-07-2002, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by InfernoOfFury
Enigma's Co-Owner is Cyanide, he is not only one of the coolest guys on graal ever but he works his rear off for Enigma, hes only 15 and hes got all these responsibilites and hes got my full respect for someone his age.

cyanide is a very deceptive person, he lies to get anything he watns, even from players.
he is a very cruel person, and only wants to get what he wants.

the difference between him and others like him.
is that he is good at it, and gets away with it.
the only people who know he does it, are his victims (me)

cyanide is fired\quit, he did no work, and he was doing bad things.

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Originally posted by Yakuna2001
k, i wont bring up the time he deleted all of the bravo levels because he didnt get level3 rc, oh, then theres the time he wen to every server massing out the link to a website with alot of servers levels on. heh, gee hes real great

i never deleted all bravo's levels. MINUS did after I uploaded alot of staff weapons BECAUSE racoondog kept telling me i was useless peice of **** when i was one of his hardest workers at the time, and was doing everything he told me.
racoondog never even publicly commented on the situation, you all are going by what people like aeryn or minus said, which is bs cuz they were just mad that i did the staff weapon thing, and then minus betrayed me (was going to support me) and used his rc to delete all the levels and say it was me (since everyone would beleive it after what i did)

Warcaptain · #13 06-07-2002, 05:27 AM

also
hiring co-manager:

im not releasing the procedure im doing to hire new one.
but i assure you there is one.

Torankusu · #14 06-07-2002, 05:40 AM

Uh, sorry, warcaptain, but people don't get much more evil and stupid than you.

Logo · #15 06-07-2002, 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Uh, sorry, warcaptain, but people don't get much more evil and stupid than you.

haha

Warcaptain · #16 06-07-2002, 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Uh, sorry, warcaptain, but people don't get much more evil and stupid than you.

you dont know cyanide as well as i do then.

Torankusu · #17 06-07-2002, 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain

you dont know cyanide as well as i do then.

But I know you, and I know poorly you've handled being owner when it comes to bans and things like that.

Reuben · #18 06-07-2002, 07:22 AM

WC... Obviously nobody else thinks im 'evil'...in fact almost everyone i know totally looks up to me as a friend and for advice!
You don't know what your talking about you idiot, just wait til the day comes when the PW gets accepted, you know it will! almost nobody likes you and you know that to!

-Cyanide

Warcaptain · #19 06-07-2002, 07:40 AM

they dont see the things you do as i did

they werent around you as much as I was in the past 14 months.

i seen how u manipulate people, how you lie to people and act so nice just to get your way with people.

then when you dont need them (like me) you **** them over.

you'll do it to someone else, and they'll see.

trust me

SinNetherwind · #20 06-07-2002, 11:05 PM

Cyanide is my friend and so is WC, im staying out of there little quarrel. @.0

Multiflame · #21 06-08-2002, 12:49 AM

Id like to say to cynadine and *not telling name of person i know*
good luck on there playerworld!.
:magaeek:And WC i heard a rumour that i was going to be co-owner?!
Im not being wierd or anything but id like to be co-owner but y me?
all i do is level build and kinda script thats it.?

Warcaptain · #22 06-08-2002, 02:37 AM

wan?

you arent up for co-manager o-O

Yakuna2001 · #23 06-08-2002, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain

cyanide is a very deceptive person, he lies to get anything he watns, even from players.
he is a very cruel person, and only wants to get what he wants.

the difference between him and others like him.
is that he is good at it, and gets away with it.
the only people who know he does it, are his victims (me)

cyanide is fired\quit, he did no work, and he was doing bad things.

i never deleted all bravo's levels. MINUS did after I uploaded alot of staff weapons BECAUSE racoondog kept telling me i was useless peice of **** when i was one of his hardest workers at the time, and was doing everything he told me.
racoondog never even publicly commented on the situation, you all are going by what people like aeryn or minus said, which is bs cuz they were just mad that i did the staff weapon thing, and then minus betrayed me (was going to support me) and used his rc to delete all the levels and say it was me (since everyone would beleive it after what i did)

so why at the time did you openly admit to doing it, and told me to fix the mess to get myself popular? hmm.

IonFlux2001 · #24 06-08-2002, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by Yakuna2001

k, i wont bring up the time he deleted all of the bravo levels because he didnt get level3 rc, oh, then theres the time he wen to every server massing out the link to a website with alot of servers levels on. heh, gee hes real great

I remeber that. lol. Didnt he also lay orbs everywere ?

Warcaptain · #25 06-08-2002, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Yakuna2001

so why at the time did you openly admit to doing it, and told me to fix the mess to get myself popular? hmm.

i openly admitted to:

-deleting my house off the server (which only caused problems with people on my house, or people going to the house)
-adding staff weapons in start house

i told you to clean up bravo to fix it.... not that i did everything.....

i even told you minus did it.

InfernoOfFury · #26 06-08-2002, 07:59 PM

Unfortunatley I am going to stick by Cyanide. He was my very good friend not too long ago when I was working at Enigma and him and I talked on the phone all the time and discussed what would be best for the server and I couldnt ever talk to you WC because you were either never on or DND when you werent really that busy to begin with. Cyanide showed me the shitload of work he had to do, he was in FTP constantly uploading levels, assigning LAT's and NAT's projects, reviewing levels, making levels, scripting levels, etc. He was the best Co-Owner Ive ever seen and ever will see and I think he should have been Owner honestly, no offense to you WC but he was just better. I know this from personal experience from his as a work partner and a real friend.

SinNetherwind · #27 06-08-2002, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by InfernoOfFury
Unfortunatley I am going to stick by Cyanide. He was my very good friend not too long ago when I was working at Enigma and him and I talked on the phone all the time and discussed what would be best for the server and I couldnt ever talk to you WC because you were either never on or DND when you werent really that busy to begin with. Cyanide showed me the shitload of work he had to do, he was in FTP constantly uploading levels, assigning LAT's and NAT's projects, reviewing levels, making levels, scripting levels, etc. He was the best Co-Owner Ive ever seen and ever will see and I think he should have been Owner honestly, no offense to you WC but he was just better. I know this from personal experience from his as a work partner and a real friend.

keeping that in mind is why its so hard to realize he did some terrible things, regardless of the good past... oh well.

Snappledragon · #28 06-08-2002, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Multiflame
Id like to say to cynadine and *not telling name of person i know*
good luck on there playerworld!.
:magaeek:And WC i heard a rumour that i was going to be co-owner?!
Im not being wierd or anything but id like to be co-owner but y me?
all i do is level build and kinda script thats it.?

Go away.

Multiflame · #29 06-09-2002, 01:48 AM

I Heard i was?!
Cynadine, ill c ur system tomorrow because __________will come round (HEHEHE)and show meh and i might work onit *
Might

Warcaptain · #30 06-09-2002, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by InfernoOfFury
Unfortunatley I am going to stick by Cyanide. He was my very good friend not too long ago when I was working at Enigma and him and I talked on the phone all the time and discussed what would be best for the server and I couldnt ever talk to you WC because you were either never on or DND when you werent really that busy to begin with. Cyanide showed me the shitload of work he had to do, he was in FTP constantly uploading levels, assigning LAT's and NAT's projects, reviewing levels, making levels, scripting levels, etc. He was the best Co-Owner Ive ever seen and ever will see and I think he should have been Owner honestly, no offense to you WC but he was just better. I know this from personal experience from his as a work partner and a real friend.

cyanide never worked with LAT's or NAT's
i was always the one coordinating lat\nat projects, and i always hired them too.
he only took work sent by the players and uploaded them, other than that he did nothing.

he never was on RC unless it was to edit himself or someone else.
when i was DND i was working with staff problems, there was much staff stuff going on that not even cyanide saw because he never was on RC to resolve it.

if i had quit enigma, it would have never survived.
cyanides acc was hacked over 10 times while he was co-owner, and if it wsant for me there to fix his mess, the server would be gone.
also were many times he was grounded and server got in trouble, or staff problems arose. where the server would have been overthrown or taken over.

in all reality enigma is here now because of me, cyanide could have never done it, its impossible.

Multiflame · #31 06-09-2002, 01:54 AM

Whats it like being a pw owner?

Warcaptain · #32 06-09-2002, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by Multiflame
Whats it like being a pw owner?

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its stressful and usualy brings on alot of life problems
especialy when you need help with things from global staffs who dont help.
but its good because teaches you teamwork and still to be independant.
it makes good friends and good enemies, but i love it.

Multiflame · #33 06-09-2002, 02:04 AM

Could i teach u how to make levels well i g2g talk later on aim on tabisan's

Torankusu · #34 06-09-2002, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain
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its stressful and usualy brings on alot of life problems
especialy when you need help with things from global staffs who dont help.
but its good because teaches you teamwork and still to be independant.
it makes good friends and good enemies, but i love it.

I assume I am one of the better enemies, you *******.

Warcaptain · #35 06-09-2002, 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
I assume I am one of the better enemies, you *******.

wats worse you used to be one of my best friends, a loooong time ago.

Reuben · #36 06-09-2002, 03:44 AM

HAHA wc

Reuben · #37 06-09-2002, 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain

cyanide never worked with LAT's or NAT's
i was always the one coordinating lat\nat projects, and i always hired them too.
he only took work sent by the players and uploaded them, other than that he did nothing.

he never was on RC unless it was to edit himself or someone else.
when i was DND i was working with staff problems, there was much staff stuff going on that not even cyanide saw because he never was on RC to resolve it.

if i had quit enigma, it would have never survived.
cyanides acc was hacked over 10 times while he was co-owner, and if it wsant for me there to fix his mess, the server would be gone.
also were many times he was grounded and server got in trouble, or staff problems arose. where the server would have been overthrown or taken over.

in all reality enigma is here now because of me, cyanide could have never done it, its impossible.

Thats some bullshit! Ha, i did alot of work and you know it, i did everything you requested and more so dont even talk about me 'not doing any work' ask ANY ex-Enigma players and he/she will tell you all the stuff i did, i made those 5 prizehouses that the players loved, the horse stable, the pool&spa, The spar arena, Capita city w/ Blitz, Thats just the stuff i can name off of my head, you know i did more and so does everyone else

SinNetherwind · #38 06-09-2002, 04:34 AM

JESUS ALLAH BUDDAH, knock it off! WC does alot, Cyanide did alot. ALL STAFF DOES ALOT!!!!!! LET IT END! NO MORE FIGHTING! GAAAAAAAAAAEHHHHHH

*closes thread*

oshit i 4got im not a moderator...

InfernoOfFury · #39 06-09-2002, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain

cyanide never worked with LAT's or NAT's
i was always the one coordinating lat\nat projects, and i always hired them too.
he only took work sent by the players and uploaded them, other than that he did nothing.

he never was on RC unless it was to edit himself or someone else.
when i was DND i was working with staff problems, there was much staff stuff going on that not even cyanide saw because he never was on RC to resolve it.

if i had quit enigma, it would have never survived.
cyanides acc was hacked over 10 times while he was co-owner, and if it wsant for me there to fix his mess, the server would be gone.
also were many times he was grounded and server got in trouble, or staff problems arose. where the server would have been overthrown or taken over.

in all reality enigma is here now because of me, cyanide could have never done it, its impossible.

Bullshit, I went from LAT Cadet to LAT Chief all as Cyanide helped me through, and I WOULD know because I was an LAT and I knew NAT's that were helped by Cyanide as well, so yea I know what Im talking about and Cyanide you might remember me, its me ESP or HarvesterOfSorrow.

XLinkX · #40 06-11-2002, 04:02 AM

o.o;; i dont know what to say...cyanide always seemed nice, and everytime i talked to him he was, and would mass asking if anyone wanted to see anything new on enigma, then i heard about him making fake logs and massing wc's phone number, like he suddenly turned on wc or something, but from what ive seen wc was never a bad guy, so i dont really know what to say.