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Old 03-12-2001, 05:23 AM
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Weather on graal 2k1?

When I saw a preview of it there was all sorts of weather... like Rain Snow Cloudy days etc.
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Old 03-12-2001, 05:25 AM
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snow and clouds would be cool, but clouds probably won't move because it may cause loads of lag.
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Old 03-12-2001, 05:29 AM
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Well, in the version I saw, there was NO LAG.
Though it was on offline mode, but when I looked @ the script it was something new.
Dunno.
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Old 03-12-2001, 05:32 AM
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hmm

Rain would be pretty cool, and you could catch colds or tuberculosis and die.
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Old 03-12-2001, 05:33 AM
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actually the clouds test didn't move. It was just a basic random-placement array (i believe )
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Old 03-12-2001, 05:49 AM
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I offered Stefan the script, he never responded...

I made a pretty spiffy Snow too, affected by wind and everything...it was for someone else's project though. Still my script. I dunno.
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Old 03-12-2001, 05:50 AM
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Maybe lag is a major worry with weather.
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Old 03-12-2001, 12:30 PM
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Old 03-12-2001, 01:27 PM
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It wouldn't matter to me, because my video card is incapable of viewing the effects anyway.
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Old 03-12-2001, 01:28 PM
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Weather shouldn't cause lag because it's not transmitted, it's just an effect. It may slow down machines though, if they don't have a good graphics setup.
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Old 03-12-2001, 06:10 PM
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I seem to recall a "snow" backpal being on a server somewhere. I just can't remember which one.
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Old 03-12-2001, 07:47 PM
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Weather effects sholdn't be that hard, just make an ani gif big enough to fill in someone's whole screen, make it only show up while the player isonmap and make it show locally for each player, and then you've got weather. Well, there is of course a bit of messing around with random chances
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Old 03-12-2001, 07:51 PM
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Errrrrrr, no.

PACHUKA tried rain in his Dark Woods, and it failed miserably. It was laggy as hell.
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Old 03-12-2001, 07:56 PM
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showimg rain shouldn't be laggy, it should be about as laggy as seteffect is
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Old 03-12-2001, 07:57 PM
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But what about clouds and fog and snow and floods and blizzards and fires and earthquakes and mudslides.
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Old 03-12-2001, 07:58 PM
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Try it. Make a huge animated gif of rain, tile a level into a forest, and put that in there coupled with dusk6.png for a backpal and see how laggy you get.
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Old 03-12-2001, 07:58 PM
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Do you not need backpals for cause the Seteffect thing?
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Old 03-12-2001, 07:59 PM
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No, backpals are set using setbackpal.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:00 PM
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:00 PM
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I wouldn't know. I've never used seteffect;.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:06 PM
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I have and it does like color stuff like what night day stuff is.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:08 PM
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I'll try it in my method together with night.gif (That's pretty damn big), and as for seteffect, you on't need to use backpals if you use seteffect seteffect just allows you to give a number of RGB values and an Alpha filtering value, you've got to use values between 0 and 1 for all the thing in setefect though.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:10 PM
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they should tell you that because I spent an hour trying to figure out why it was all red.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:10 PM
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Heh, well, I just find:

if (created) {
setbackpal dusk6.png;
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. . .to be easier.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:12 PM
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Heh, well with seteffect all NPC's and players get other colors as well, although I have to agree that in certain cases setbackpal can be necesarry (Tyhm's moon anyone?).
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:13 PM
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Tyhm's moon is the winner.

I love that colour effect he did.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:24 PM
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Yeah, that is what they should use setbackpal for on pay servers
And well anyways here's a non-laggy (for me at least) whole level filling night.gif thing, with time built in, although it looks lame because it uses night.gif
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:26 PM
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There's a problem with making a big rain image over you:

When you walked the rain would follow you and it wouldn't look right.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:29 PM
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True... Well Tyhm has managed it quite nicely in Babord I think, maybe just making it dark and randomly making some kind of raindrop like tihng appear on the ground would work, with occasional flashes of seteffect 1,1,1,1; in between it so that we'd have lightning.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:30 PM
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I haven't been on the classic server enough to learn the new quests.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:32 PM
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You just either use the airship, or you go to the gnome's house, do the new gnome's quest and you'll go there automattically.
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:33 PM
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:35 PM
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:36 PM
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:37 PM
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:40 PM
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Unhappy WAAH!

You are calling me corrupted
Well okay so I do walk arond with a level 40 sword and a level 40 shield and 20 fullhearts while being invulnerable and being able to walk through walls but that's just a minor detail

LOL, I just got an error that I used too many smileys
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:41 PM
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Old 03-12-2001, 08:44 PM
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Heh, I forgot to mention my level warper in there
And just because i'm feeling like doing so I'll now post the script of my personal version of the admin boots:
NPC Code:
// Antagos Sky Dwellers (Edited by Grim Squeaker)
//
// ================================================
//
// Changes: The NPC now uses keydown instead of playersprite and playerdir.
// You can also if you press and hold 'A' you'll walk at
// normal speed. (Only works when NPCW is active)
if (playerenters&&!isweapon) {
if (hasweapon(Sky Dwellers)) {
hidelocal;
dontblocklocal;
}
else {
showlocal;
}
}
if (playertouchsme&&visible) {
toweapons Sky Dwellers;
hidelocal;
dontblocklocal;
}
if (weaponfired||firedonhorse) {
if (this.active=0) {
this.active=1;
timeout = 0.05;
setgif flyboots.gif;
}
else {
this.active=0;
setgif flyboots2.gif;
}
}
if (timeout&&this.active=1) {
if (this.mode=0) {
if (keydown(0)) {
playery--;
playerdir = 0;
}
if (keydown(1)) {
playerx--;
playerdir = 1;
}
if (keydown(2)) {
playery++;
playerdir = 2;
}
if (keydown(3)) {
playerx++;
playerdir = 3;
}
}
if (keydown(6)) {
if (this.mode=0) this.mode=1;
}
else {
this.mode=0;
}
timeout = 0.05;
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