AEON: The final push!

[Vima]

AEON : The Final Push

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It can be found on our previous thread:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=82227

We're back again!
Indeed we are, for those who thought that AEON had died, HAH!
Hopefully this will be the last time that we had to repay for the server XD.

Desperate need of new staff
Anywayys, we are in desperate need of developement help.
Right now it's just Me, HL, Napo & Rave. So we are hiring:
GATs & Modern LATs.
If you wish to apply please forum PM me!

Last time I did this "Hirings" thread aswell as a couple of ads in Graal Login News it didn't go so successfull.
I know a lot of people out there are doubtfull about AEON - and they have every right to feel that way.
It have been on Hosted Tab for... heck! I don't even know how many years.
But it's a lot that people don't know, we have hit SO MANY obstacles... For every progress we have gone two steps backwards.
Staff quitting, People disappearing and just regular IRL problems that always pops up.
But what really makes me confused is that a lot of people on Graal are complaining that no new servers are comming to the classic tab aswell as that they say that "everyone working on their own projects, instead of working on the current servers."

We are unbelievable close of finishing our two worlds, Opan & Elan. = Applying to classic tab.
It's just minor work, litteraly all the levels are done, aswell as most of the systems.
Now its mainly just events and weapons/items.
Infact I think it's safe to say that we are the closest under construction server out there that it this close of getting finished.

We are in desperate need of a few more staff!
So if you would like to help us or have any questions, please don't hesitate. Forum PM me

- SwedishKing

[Soala]

While Maloria is down, I could probably help you guys get the final touch. I feel like having more time than before, must be used to school already, which is good =D.
Just tell me if you're interested.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by vima

infact i think it's safe to say that we are the closest under construction server out there that it this close of getting finished.

ruh roh watch out for gg guys.

[Clockwork]

I don't think Aeon should go classic until all 4 worlds are playable. It's like you're missing half the server theme and world is a smaller version of an already released server. With only 2 worlds finished, you'll have a team split between watching and fixing 2 worlds, while beginning to develop on another 2.

While in theory, this also means that while on classic, it would take longer than you have been hosted to even get close to releasing the 2 other worlds.

At the moment, you have a classic world, which is completely generic, and a modern server, which, I'm guessing, is basically like every other failed modern server, and smaller as well, seeing as the others only had modern to dedicate themselves to.

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Hopefully this will be the last time that we had to repay for the server XD. 


You started working on a server with 4 worlds, which is 4 times more work than a regular server. Take responsibility for making all 4 before you rush through 2 just so you don't have to pay.

[Liberated]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

I don't think Aeon should go classic until all 4 worlds are playable. It's like you're missing half the server theme and world is a smaller version of an already released server. With only 2 worlds finished, you'll have a team split between watching and fixing 2 worlds, while beginning to develop on another 2.

While in theory, this also means that while on classic, it would take longer than you have been hosted to even get close to releasing the 2 other worlds.

At the moment, you have a classic world, which is completely generic, and a modern server, which, I'm guessing, is basically like every other failed modern server, and smaller as well, seeing as the others only had modern to dedicate themselves to.

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Hopefully this will be the last time that we had to repay for the server XD. 


You started working on a server with 4 worlds, which is 4 times more work than a regular server. Take responsibility for making all 4 before you rush through 2 just so you don't have to pay.

Hope the staff doesn't mind me replieing to this.
If they make all 4 worlds completely playable, they will be busy for atleast another year and a half, if it's going to take as long as these worlds have, probably longer.

Opan is nothing like any of the other "failed modern servers", Opan features a unique weapon system, a class system, levelling system and much much more.

I believe it has been discussed with the PWA, and when they finish these 2 worlds they are elligible for classic i believe, i don't think its really about the paying, the staff is a group of mature people, and im pretty sure there wouldn't be any problems repaying for the server.

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Liberated

Hope the staff doesn't mind me replieing to this.
If they make all 4 worlds completely playable, they will be busy for atleast another year and a half, if it's going to take as long as these worlds have, probably longer.

Opan is nothing like any of the other "failed modern servers", Opan features a unique weapon system, a class system, levelling system and much much more.

I believe it has been discussed with the PWA, and when they finish these 2 worlds they are elligible for classic i believe, i don't think its really about the paying, the staff is a group of mature people, and im pretty sure there wouldn't be any problems repaying for the server.

That's not the point I'm trying to make.

Lot's of servers come work hard at what they want to make. Why should one server be allowed to go classic when it's barely half done?

Despite not having been on Opan, it may be great, but the classic world on Aeon, is, as I said, completely generic.

[Vima]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Blablabla I like to talk about things that I have no clue about.

First of all I would just like to say that you don't need to trash this thread like you do on all the other threads.
If you have a problem with it - Talk to Bell.

But to just make it clear, the main reason we have been delayed is that we have almost NO STAFF.
It's basically just ME sometimes.
If we were to go to classic tab, chances are high that we will get new staff.
Aswell as that we will not have to constantly worry about paying our&staffs gold & the server.

But these two worlds are like two servers, they are full with various stuff, exciting original ideas...
Especially Opan, it's like a game itself.
I believe AEON will definitely take Graal to the "next level".

Originally Posted by Clockwork

You started working on a server with 4 worlds, which is 4 times more work than a regular server. Take responsibility for making all 4 before you rush through 2 just so you don't have to pay.

I don't know about you... but ehm... It's been on Hosted tab for atleast 3 years.
If we would rush just to not have to repay for the server... then we would've done it AGES AGO.

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Lot's of servers come work hard at what they want to make. Why should one server be allowed to go classic when it's barely half done?

There are/were many good servers out there, but they are nowhere near on getting to the classic tab. It's almost impossible to get through all the obstacles we've done. I believe that in order for Graal to continue being alive AEON needs to be added to the classic tab. It will bring Graal to a new level. It will give that "change" that the regular people want.

[fowlplay4]

Good luck with this "new level", that sounds too good to be true.

I'm not fond of the multiple servers in one server, it'll probably end up with flocking to one mini-server in a certain location like other servers have their own level that other players generally flock to. So you'll have to find an approach to get around that.

[papajchris]

How exactly does Aeon work? Is it basically 4 separate servers put into one? Don't you think your kinda spreading the already thin playercount graal has? Im assuming Aeon would have around 60 players. Thats 15 players/gmap. Unless your expecting to take all of Eras players, UN's, and N-Pulses. If thats the plan, im interested in seeing how it turns out!

[Vima]

Originally Posted by papajchris

How exactly does Aeon work? Is it basically 4 separate servers put into one? Don't you think your kinda spreading the already thin playercount graal has? Im assuming Aeon would have around 60 players. Thats 15 players/gmap. Unless your expecting to take all of Eras players, UN's, and N-Pulses. If thats the plan, im interested in seeing how it turns out!

Before I saw it like that, but we've stopped looked it that way.
Today we are working on merging these worlds together, all through storylines, "global trades", quests etc... we have so much planned.
With napo litteraly nothing is impossible to do, your imagination is only the limit.

We'll try to compete with the remaining servers, personally I think it's always good with competition.
It would push all of the servers to work even harder, would benifit the regular players a lot.
But we just don't want to be a competitive server, like I said before I think that AEON is original and has some very interesting stuff that people haven't seen on Graal before.
We would definitely try to attact new players to our server, I mean there is so much you can do today.
Posting Youtube clips, posting on forums etc.
But we're not just thinking about ourselves, we want to help the entire Graal Community.
For example: We are determined to get the Globals Guilds up and running again!

[firefighter]

From my personal experience on my server Zenox I can say that it is very difficult to find good and experienced staff at the time to bring the development forward. That wasn't always so difficult earlier but the most of the good developers have left graal so you must be pleased with what you already have.

You should understand that you cannot implement all your ideas with a lame development team (not even if you are really good and do everything at your own) because you need a good, varying and active staff team.

Also the idea with multiple seperate worlds isn't better than having multiple islands on a single world because the player count of each world will be (much) different so the players are seperated too which isn't good for solving tasks/quests together and doesn't promote the communication between them. We also had the ideas of multiple worlds and using modern and classic content together but it has been overruled very fast. So we found the idea of a classic server with better, new concepts and ideas than the other servers have much better.

Also it's pointless to have a mass of things if they are confusing, irritating and/or expect too much of the players. So in the most cases it is better to have fewer but thought through things you can provide to the players that are easy to understand.

These are just some advice of me to help you with my experience

[Hatred89]

Alright so let me set everything straight because when people hear the four worlds with out knowing what we are doing they more often then not get the wrong idea.

Q: If there is going to be four worlds then its not going to feel like one server right?
A: To be honest no it will since there will be a storyline linking all the worlds and would require you to go to other worlds to continue the storyline and gain quest items. Also there will be a global trade system between the worlds so all items can be traded between each world. If you look at the other servers on graal how many have story lines?

Q: If you have four worlds doesn't that mean each world itself is just going to be a lesser version of what we already
have now on the lassic list?

A: Even though each world might have a same theme as a server on the UC list it is still going to have so many new features and game play options that it will give a same feel but still also being unique. We are aiming and we are making each world that we have to blow out its competitor.

Q: Well how is the player count going to look? People are just going to be split between each world so even though you might pull in 100 people into the server if you have four worlds that means you would have like 25 people per world which isn't that much so the server would fail, correct?

A: If you look there is no competitor for a multi-world server so our competition servers that have one of our four themes. So our target audience is much larger then just one server. So we would pull in a larger community with the server theme.

Q: Why don't you just stick with one world and make that one great?

A: We already are this far why would we waste years of work? AEON was one of the first bought player-world servers and has been the longest lasting world. We have put years of work into the server. Plus if you look at how graal is declining how many years do you think it has left? It needs something new to save it and honestly not to have a big ego but I think we could help contribute to saving it. Older players would return who have classic accounts and it could give new hope to the remaining players. Along with increasing the chances of gaining new players.

Q: How are you going to say that? I'v seen AEON and there is nothing impressive on it. (Part 2 of the question above)

A: Most of our server is not accessible to the public's eye. I'd say easily 8/10 of the content is hidden and only some people have got to see what we have like certain global's and a selected few top notch developers and they have all been impressed with what we have.

If I missed any questions just ask away I should be able to answer them .

[Hatred89]

Alright so I just need to bump this thread because the server got paid for again and its up. It's just under a dev "account name" but it should be renamed soon. Anyhow we mainly need Gats and Ganiers. We could use just one NAT because scripting wise its pretty much complete. Level wise we are done except for about three levels so we won't need lats.

We are about 90 percent done or more till we apply for classic we just need some helping hands. Aim me at dragon89o or send me a forum pm or post here.

[Rave_J]

ill be back end july begining of augest any ways guys hes right alot of our work is done an we are so short of staff for 2 reasons were so picky just wont hire anybody an aeon been on hosted tab forever if u really think if napo didnt have to leave so much opan would been done about 6 months or longer but its hard to find a scripter like napo sk an hatred u know ill get the ganis done fast when i come back

[Imperialistic]

last time i cared i thought there was only 2 worlds? Modern and Classic.

[Clockwork]

So this is the next, -final- push?

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by Hatred89

Alright so I just need to bump this thread because the server got paid for again and its up. It's just under a dev "account name" but it should be renamed soon. Anyhow we mainly need Gats and Ganiers. We could use just one NAT because scripting wise its pretty much complete. Level wise we are done except for about three levels so we won't need lats.

We are about 90 percent done or more till we apply for classic we just need some helping hands. Aim me at dragon89o or send me a forum pm or post here.

Thats good to hear. Good luck, old friend... looking forward to it.

[Rave_J]

for now its 2 worlds nsc and arkland will be world/server updates

[Hatred89]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Thats good to hear. Good luck, old friend... looking forward to it.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Clockwork

So this is the next, -final- push?

Haha you could say that or the same last push with a pause in between? Haha

Originally Posted by Imperialistic

last time i cared i thought there was only 2 worlds? Modern and Classic.

AEON is an acronym so there are four different "worlds".

A: Arkland Empires
E: Elan "The Faded Nation"
O: Opan
N: Nerf Space Control (NSC)

We are only finishing 2 1/2 though before we apply for classic and the other 1 1/2 will be done once we are on classic tab. We even have development done for future updates we just need some people to join in on the effort in finishing on what we need to get to classic.

[Hatred89]

So I have returned and I am looking to finish Aeon. I am currently in need of at least one GAT and one NAT to finish whats left. There is only about a months worth of work left to be done before we can apply for classic.
So if anyone is interested in coming to help then pm me on the forums or msg me on aim @ dragon89o or leave a pm in game on how I can contact you.

[Crono]

final push II

[fowlplay4]

What exactly do you need to get done, and have you requested GDT help?

[jkldogg]

not trying to step on any toes but has this server EVER been playable? it didnt look too bad the last time i saw it but no1 ever there

[Dark_Zeratul101]

Oh god, this server has been in development for over six years! I remember working on this server in 2004. Most people played Opan.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

not trying to step on any toes but has this server EVER been playable? it didnt look too bad the last time i saw it but no1 ever there

In total Aeon has been in development for around 7 years and has had many different remakes of their own content but it has pretty much been playable at some point. I used to play Aeon from 2005 onward for a couple of years and it was playable then but currently I think most of Aeon is closed for development.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Crono

final push II

Aeon: The Final Push II, This time It's for real..!

[jkldogg]

Originally Posted by cyan3

In total Aeon has been in development for around 7 years and has had many different remakes of their own content but it has pretty much been playable at some point. I used to play Aeon from 2005 onward for a couple of years and it was playable then but currently I think most of Aeon is closed for development.

what the hell are u doing for 7 years? picking out your *******s get some work done....damn it's pathetic.

[Soala]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

sorry oh well i'll probably get another infraction but idc

what the hell are u doing for 7 years? picking out ur assssssssssssssholes? get some work done....damn it's pathetic.

why the hell are you still around? In all honesty I've never seen someone worse than you. I'd usualy just ignore someone like you, but you've gone too far, and the graal community would be better without you trolling around.
I suggest you read what you've said and seriously think about it. Mocking developers that obviously are 1000times better than an idiot like you, considering himself superior than anyone else around but that never done a single thing in life. You've always been useless, complaining about everything. If you think something is wrong or too slow, why don't you try to help?

I'll end this by a quote from Ghandi: "You must be the change you wish to see in this world."

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Soala

why the hell are you still around? In all honesty I've never seen someone worse than you. I'd usualy just ignore someone like you, but you've gone too far, and the graal community would be better without you trolling around.
I suggest you read what you've said and seriously think about it. Mocking developers that obviously are 1000times better than you, better than an idiot like you, considering himself superior than anyone else around but that never done a single thing in life. You've always been useless, complaining about everything. If you think something is wrong or too slow, why don't you try to help?

I'll end this by a quote from Ghandi: "You must be the change you wish to see in this world."

Thanks for quote. I like it.

Also, This is the point of trolling. They seek your reaction nothing more. By sending this tiny wall of text you simply feed him.

[fowlplay4]

Despite jkl being himself, he's still right about the situation.

[Soala]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Thanks for quote. I like it.

Also, This is the point of trolling. They seek your reaction nothing more. By sending this tiny wall of text you simply feed him.

I know that I'm feeding the troll, and like I said I'd usualy ignore him. But I'm just really tired of all his stupid posts, and something must be done to "stop" him.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Despite jkl being himself, he's still right about the situation.

Of course he's right, but it's not a reason to start insulting the work of developers who edited their content multiple times to offer always better to the community (but yes I agree, 7years is really long)

[Hatred89]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

What exactly do you need to get done, and have you requested GDT help?

-Storyline
-Intro
-1-3 Systems roughly

Originally Posted by jkldogg

not trying to step on any toes but has this server EVER been playable? it didnt look too bad the last time i saw it but no1 ever there

I think it was 2005-06 we kept a player count of 30-60 people playing constantly. What changed that was one of the two owners removed Opan (Modern World) till staff would finish Elan (Classic World). Most of the staff ended up leaving and Opan hasn't been up since.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Despite jkl being himself, he's still right about the situation.

We have four worlds and we are only required to submit with 2.5 of the worlds to make it to classic and the other two will be finished on the classic tab as major updates that will expand the storyline. (Most of the systems can be re-used on one of the worlds we don't plan to finish till after we make it to classic. So it isn't as much work as it sounds to be)

Plus we have not only tryed to just make four servers in one but to make them each far better then their rival. We have plenty of things on the server that never has been done before. Point is 4 servers in one takes quite a bit of time to develop.

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Hatred89

I think it was 2005-06 we kept a player count of 30-60 people playing constantly...What changed that was one of the two owners removed Opan (Modern World)...

zzz... hard to name any modern server that hasn't kept a player count of 50+ players at any time, and I swear if I organized the scripts in testbed I could pull out enough to make half a dozen new modern server's. Same goes for your classic styled overworld, I played it for a day and felt I had ran out of content.

Originally Posted by Hatred89

We have four worlds and we are only required to submit with 2.5

You went ahead and found out the bare minimum you had to do to pass?

meh... I want to write this wall of text but I can't be bothered, and I think I've already done it before ~o~

[jkldogg]

Originally Posted by Soala

why the hell are you still around? In all honesty I've never seen someone worse than you. I'd usualy just ignore someone like you, but you've gone too far, and the graal community would be better without you trolling around.
I suggest you read what you've said and seriously think about it. Mocking developers that obviously are 1000times better than an idiot like you, considering himself superior than anyone else around but that never done a single thing in life. You've always been useless, complaining about everything. If you think something is wrong or too slow, why don't you try to help?

I'll end this by a quote from Ghandi: "You must be the change you wish to see in this world."

haha i get that alot. 7 years is stupid long. idc if they changed it, that was a dumb move and obviously it set them back. Regardless, they should have finished it by now...so ya /qq idc :]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Despite jkl being himself, he's still right about the situation.

Thanks jerret lol that was beast

Originally Posted by Soala

something must be done to "stop" him.

Of course he's right, but it's not a reason to start insulting the work of developers who edited their content multiple times to offer always better to the community (but yes I agree, 7years is really long)

"stop him" - lolol
I'm right? :O ya i thought so too

idc if u edit it 20 times, 7years is crazzy long....so yeah they should've been done by now

Originally Posted by Hatred89

said something about / my post

dude i dont care =]

[Hatred89]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

zzz... hard to name any modern server that hasn't kept a player count of 50+ players at any time, and I swear if I organized the scripts in testbed I could pull out enough to make half a dozen new modern server's. Same goes for your classic styled overworld, I played it for a day and felt I had ran out of content.




You went ahead and found out the bare minimum you had to do to pass?

meh... I want to write this wall of text but I can't be bothered, and I think I've already done it before ~o~

1. The storyline is going to play a big part in the server which if I can do say so my self other servers don't really have or not at the same level as what we have planned.
2. Each world has enough content to pass as it's own server.
3. We have four worlds.
4. Originality

I think that isn't going for the minimum required and on the behalf of the classic world it has serious updates planned for it so it doesn't feel like just another classic world remake. As for the modern world, futuristic, and role play they will be by far original.

Anyhow point of this thread isn't to fight but to help find staff.

P.S. I'm tired so hopefully I'm making sense.

[Hatred89]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

haha i get that alot. 7 years is stupid long. idc if they changed it, that was a dumb move and obviously it set them back. Regardless, they should have finished it by now...so ya /qq idc :]

idc if u edit it 20 times, 7years is crazzy long....so yeah they should've been done by now

=]

The management was bad and switching from gs1 to gs2 caused issues. Since I'v become manager though we haven't been taking any steps back. Before for every step forward we would take two back thats why nothing went anywhere. Plus we also have taken breaks so it wasn't 7 years of straight work it was more like 4 counting all the breaks taken among the staff. =P

[jkldogg]

ya cool

I could help with some levels :O or small gfx / gani projects...but I don't work unless 3-6 other people work too because if you have less than 3 dev your server is pretty dead =S

[Liberated]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

ya cool

I could help with some levels :O or small gfx / gani projects...

the only graphic i've seen you make is that horrible edit which i consider to be a rape of aeko's RC background. You're not really in any position to be making demands.

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by jkldogg

ya cool

I could help with some levels :O or small gfx / gani projects...but I don't work unless 3-6 other people work too because if you have less than 3 dev your server is pretty dead =S

You can't dev..

[Soala]

Originally Posted by Gothika

You can't dev..

I second that.