GANI Rules!

[oscarjf1]

Its not fair! Non-p2p servers should be allowed to have the multi-framed GANI! I can understand the multi-directional, but look, enigma uses them! look at the pogo stick, im pretty sure that is gani! They are all over present non-p2p servers, but if they are on a new server, they get failed. Why? I own a server that we are working on, and if multi-framed GANI arent allowed....We have to change a lot. Maybe I misunderstood the term "multi-framed" but im pretty sure it means...you cant have a ration more than less than 1/1 by the scroll bar. That is stupid. Is that an old or new rule? I saw it under the sumbit rules at the PW submission site. Is that site out of date? Is it wrong? Can anyone please shed some light on this situation?

Thank you.

~War Lord Mpg2

[TrueHeaT]

no, no they shouldn't
I can't understand the reasons for wanting to be non-p2p anyway...

[Rekad]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
no, no they shouldn't
I can't understand the reasons for wanting to be non-p2p anyway...

so you can get like 75 people to play on it.

[TrueHeaT]

bah! it's about quality, not quantity! and if more servers were p2p more people would buy accounts because they'd have to

[mmmmkay]

I say that there should be no more non p2p sercers accepted

[oscarjf1]

Non p2p servers are still good. Graal needs non-p2p servers in my opinion! Anyways, Im gonna change some things on my server....so i prolly wont have to worry abou this!

[LiquidIce00]

you are allowed to have multi framed gani's
you are not allowed to have multi directional.
just check singledir=true and you can do whatever you want.
else you wouldnt be able to make instruments. which as far as
I know Stefan lets on free pw's.
and he also lets you have jump rope if you ask him..
he prolly doesnt want multi dir cuz then u can basically make a bomy on a nonp2p server.
okay bye

[LiquidIce00]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
bah! it's about quality, not quantity! and if more servers were p2p more people would buy accounts because they'd have to

some people dont have the option=\
and you rather make a pw then have 15 ppl on it then make one and have 50 or more?

[RawPower]

Originally posted by LiquidIce00


some people dont have the option=\
and you rather make a pw then have 15 ppl on it then make one and have 50 or more?

I'd rather have like 20-30 people because it'd be perfect that way, a decent amount of players and no lag.

[mmmmkay]

Originally posted by RawPower


I'd rather have like 20-30 people because it'd be perfect that way, a decent amount of players and no lag.

Exactly.....with all those people you get lag, PKing, too many noobs....it interferes with Roleplay that way

[LiquidIce00]

Originally posted by RawPower


I'd rather have like 20-30 people because it'd be perfect that way, a decent amount of players and no lag.

server doesnt lag until there is about 100+ ppl and the other servers on the same box are filled too.
60 ppl is good

[LiquidIce00]

Originally posted by mmmmkay


Exactly.....with all those people you get lag, PKing, too many noobs....it interferes with Roleplay that way

pk'ing is part of the game =\

[mmmmkay]

Originally posted by LiquidIce00

pk'ing is part of the game =\

It gets old on UN you can't walk anywhere without getting PKed there should be just certain areas somehow

[LiquidIce00]

Originally posted by mmmmkay


It gets old on UN you can't walk anywhere without getting PKed there should be just certain areas somehow

there are non pk areas =\
and if some1 tries to pk you then pk them =)

[mmmmkay]

Originally posted by LiquidIce00

there are non pk areas =\
and if some1 tries to pk you then pk them =)

Lots of time im in a rush

[G_yoshi]

I would rather be p2p and have fewer people than free and have hoards of people. Fewer people makes it easier to share service and it also reduces stress, lowers newbie count, and keeps pking to a minimum if done right.

Free servers are overrun by many people whom simply refuse to pay. This is the real world...it takes money to run something like graal. Not paying means that eventually, the service will go bankrupt and be no more. Then how would you people feel? No Graal? Of course, most would go find another game but probably a good portion would go through somekind of withdrawals from lack of playing online.

Free servers are good for drawing players into Graal as well as some Upgraded servers. Upgraded servers should be for those wishing to play something different and to get away from the problems of free servers. It is good that free servers are restriced from certain things. It causes players to want to see the new stuff.

[AlkarenHyralt]

The main reason we are choosing not to be p2p: We took a vote, and the staff voted 'no'.
I still think it should be though

[Xaviar]

I dont like p2p for 1 reason...npc server..First of all..It really sucks alot of things up for those of us with slow connections, and second of all...I hate writing programs/scripts that I cant test as I go

--my 2 cents

[slp]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
bah! it's about quality, not quantity! and if more servers were p2p more people would buy accounts because they'd have to

Noobies Listen To TrueHeaT!

heh its not worth goin none p2p oo yea you can get lots of ppl to sit there and do nothing, all none p2p servers are mostly "crap"
cause all the ppl cant script, and all the levels are scarylookin and makes me want to shove a pole in your eye, the only server that i can think of non p2p that is pritty good is Classic (but its classic thats why). all the other non p2p are incomplete.

if you want to make a server i suggest making a p2p server.

[slp]

Originally posted by Xaviar
I dont like p2p for 1 reason...npc server..First of all..It really sucks alot of things up for those of us with slow connections, and second of all...I hate writing programs/scripts that I cant test as I go

--my 2 cents

scripting for a p2p server is better, and not complicated either.
its verry simple and if you learned a lil about npcserver, and what npcs go clientside and what go serverside you would understand its easy.

[slp]

Originally posted by G_yoshi
I would rather be p2p and have fewer people than free and have hoards of people. Fewer people makes it easier to share service and it also reduces stress, lowers newbie count, and keeps pking to a minimum if done right.

Free servers are overrun by many people whom simply refuse to pay. This is the real world...it takes money to run something like graal. Not paying means that eventually, the service will go bankrupt and be no more. Then how would you people feel? No Graal? Of course, most would go find another game but probably a good portion would go through somekind of withdrawals from lack of playing online.

Free servers are good for drawing players into Graal as well as some Upgraded servers. Upgraded servers should be for those wishing to play something different and to get away from the problems of free servers. It is good that free servers are restriced from certain things. It causes players to want to see the new stuff.

Verry true and anyways if you get ppl to come on your server if its only 10 ppl and its p2p its still verry fun, servers with 100-140 ppl lag up and i just hate that (newmain im fine with,n-pulse,UN,Classic is fine to) but its over runned.

what Yoshi said is verry true.

[Admins]

Yes npcserver is nice
If you don't want to spend time on
writing scripts then you shouldn't start
a playerworld project.
In some ways scripting with npcserver is
even better than with free servers:
if you put a //#CLIENTSIDE in front of
the script it will completely act like in
offline mode, while on the free servers
the npc script-timeouts only run on the
computer of the player who entered the
level first
Only stuff like setlevel, playerrupees++ etc.
is not allowed on client-side so that
hackers have no chance to hack it

[RawPower]

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes npcserver is nice
If you don't want to spend time on
writing scripts then you shouldn't start
a playerworld project.
In some ways scripting with npcserver is
even better than with free servers:
if you put a //#CLIENTSIDE in front of
the script it will completely act like in
offline mode, while on the free servers
the npc script-timeouts only run on the
computer of the player who entered the
level first
Only stuff like setlevel, playerrupees++ etc.
is not allowed on client-side so that
hackers have no chance to hack it

I agree, NPC Server is VERY nice.

[oscarjf1]

Originally posted by LiquidIce00
you are allowed to have multi framed gani's
you are not allowed to have multi directional.
just check singledir=true and you can do whatever you want.
else you wouldnt be able to make instruments. which as far as
I know Stefan lets on free pw's.
and he also lets you have jump rope if you ask him..
he prolly doesnt want multi dir cuz then u can basically make a bomy on a nonp2p server.
okay bye

Kewl, but....

posted on http://pwmanagement.cjb.net/
Things that will immediately fail your PW.

Copywritten Images (P2P & Non-P2P)
Graal2k1 Graphics (Non-P2P Only)
Graal2k1 Ganis (Non-P2P Only)
Multi-framed or Multi-directional Ganis (Non-P2P Only)

And as for not have any more non-p2p servers.....guess what will happen to classic. I like have people actually play on my server, thats what i made it for...to help graal and give it something fun!

[KJS]

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes npcserver is nice
If you don't want to spend time on
writing scripts then you shouldn't start
a playerworld project.
In some ways scripting with npcserver is
even better than with free servers:
if you put a //#CLIENTSIDE in front of
the script it will completely act like in
offline mode, while on the free servers
the npc script-timeouts only run on the
computer of the player who entered the
level first
Only stuff like setlevel, playerrupees++ etc.
is not allowed on client-side so that
hackers have no chance to hack it

what I really like about it is you can use the board[] array...

What I say is onces you have made stuff for an npc server you cant go back (I like how much stuff your able to do with it...) Yea some things suck that you cant do them clientside but like who cares you can get around doing it clientside and its for security reasons...

all over I think the npc server is way better...

[oscarjf1]

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes npcserver is nice
If you don't want to spend time on
writing scripts then you shouldn't start
a playerworld project.
In some ways scripting with npcserver is
even better than with free servers:
if you put a //#CLIENTSIDE in front of
the script it will completely act like in
offline mode, while on the free servers
the npc script-timeouts only run on the
computer of the player who entered the
level first
Only stuff like setlevel, playerrupees++ etc.
is not allowed on client-side so that
hackers have no chance to hack it

This has nothing to do with the topic....

[RawPower]

Originally posted by oscarjf1


This has nothing to do with the topic....

Originally posted by slp


scripting for a p2p server is better, and not complicated either.
its verry simple and if you learned a lil about npcserver, and what npcs go clientside and what go serverside you would understand its easy.

I believe Stefan was replying & adding to this post.

[Admins]

ontopic:
some weeks ago I have checked playerworlds,
the illegal ganis found have been removed by the
playerworld owners

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by LiquidIce00

there are non pk areas =\
and if some1 tries to pk you then pk them =)

Ahh shouldn't you jail those PKing in a no PK zone?

[oscarjf1]

Originally posted by Stefan
ontopic:
some weeks ago I have checked playerworlds,
the illegal ganis found have been removed by the
playerworld owners

Good! Im glad I got a response from the head honcho that was on topic, lol. :-D

[oscarjf1]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Ahh shouldn't you jail those PKing in a no PK zone?

Ummm, i think you misunderstood. You cant PK in a no pking zone, because its an NPC command. When he said when someone pk's you, he was talking about levels that allowed pking, in other words, he said "Stop being a stupid n00b and fight back"

[Sabin2]

I really think some of you need to get both sides of the story. G2k1 really isn't worth paying 30 bucks a year for, the ET is just plain corrupt, and there's just not enough to do.

If all server's were p2p that wouldn't encourage more people to upgrade accounts, it would encourage more people to leave.

-Jinx

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Sabin2
I really think some of you need to get both sides of the story. G2k1 really isn't worth paying 30 bucks a year for, the ET is just plain corrupt, and there's just not enough to do.

If all server's were p2p that wouldn't encourage more people to upgrade accounts, it would encourage more people to leave.

-Jinx

Who ever said someone upgraded their account specifically Graal2001? People can upgrade accounts for other reasons such as getting access priveleges to this forum or to play on other Upgraded Servers. Graal2001 is used as a gateway sorta as would most other servers be.

Don't just go and assume everyone uses the same logic Though I did upgrade my account to play on Graal2001 because there weren't any other p2p servers or a forum....I did it because I want to play with the bomies.

[t-dawg480]

Originally posted by Sabin2
I really think some of you need to get both sides of the story. G2k1 really isn't worth paying 30 bucks a year for, the ET is just plain corrupt, and there's just not enough to do.

If all server's were p2p that wouldn't encourage more people to upgrade accounts, it would encourage more people to leave.

-Jinx

yea but what about Faheria, TOT, Duragan Koden, there gonna be p2p and its worth the money to play them =)

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by t-dawg480


yea but what about Faheria, TOT, Doragon Koden, there gonna be p2p and its worth the money to play them =)

yay Finally someone adds me to the list

[AlexH]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


yay Finally someone adds me to the list

here you go Yoshi you deserver this
*gives Yoshi a cookie*