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Old 04-25-2008, 03:59 AM
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I think it would make sense to have the site be better organized and easier to use.
Some of my main problems with the website are not being able to find the simple buttons (Create an account, Play now, Upgrade to Gold)
I think a large amount of competitive online games have their site organized in a way that you see things like create an account, play now, or upgrade to gold.
I would like to see the website simplified because I have trouble finding stuff. I think it would be nice if it had something like this:

Obviously the bottom stuff would be cut off when you open the page. Just an idea though Maybe hikaru or someone could give a draft of something a little more... graphically appealing? I was just thinking more of organization. There should probably be a support option on the right side too.
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:05 AM
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Integrate the support center with the main site/get more "compulsive" checkers.
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:06 AM
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The site needs more information. An introduction that states what Graal as a whole is, pages that go into detail about playerworlds, gold worlds, subscriptions and all that. Pages for each of the gold worlds and what they're about.

This separating the website into different sections for each subscription is bad. It creates a lot of duplicate information and also makes it hard to find stuff since the subscriptions don't really do well for catagories. They should go back to the old way of organizing links: by content.
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:24 AM
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Take a look at the attachment I'm posting. It's from another website of a popular MMORPG (names etc blurred out). You can see how it's easy to upgrade, play, create accounts, see information such as parent guides, easy link to forums, etc.

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Old 04-25-2008, 04:28 AM
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Take a look at the attachment I'm posting. It's from another website of a popular MMORPG (names etc blurred out). You can see how it's easy to upgrade, play, create accounts, see information such as parent guides, easy link to forums, etc.

(I hope I blurred it enough?)
Not the best example in the world. That site is pretty awful, to be honest.
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:31 AM
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Not the best example in the world. That site is pretty awful, to be honest.
It was just showing that it's easier to navigate as the links are all there for you.

I agree there are better sites
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:38 AM
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This isn't the best either, but its very easy to navigate due to it's restricted size.

http://www.sympgraal.com/website.png

All the links are very visible to the left
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:46 AM
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This isn't the best either, but its very easy to navigate due to it's restricted size.

http://www.sympgraal.com/website.png

All the links are very visible to the left
Only thing is "members" is slightly confusing as to what that is.
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:47 AM
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I don't think laying out every single link in the open is the best way to go. There's just too many pages and links and it makes it look cluttered. They need to take every page and link and categorize it into simpler categories and place them in there.

Stephen said it best about being simple. Too much these days people want to fancy the hell out of their websites and all it does is clutter them with unnecessary junk. Too many links isn't good to have on every page. Either have them like they used to be with the drop box categories or have a side bar with expandable menus.
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:55 AM
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Only thing is "members" is slightly confusing as to what that is.
Yeah, thats what I've been thinking. Might change it to "Registered Users" or a shorter string
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Yeah, thats what I've been thinking. Might change it to "Registered Users" or a shorter string
Or perhaps "Members Login" or "Members Section".

Just "Members" makes me wonder if it is like a members section or information, or whatever.
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:12 AM
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Wow those are some seriously ugly webpages.
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Wow those are some seriously ugly webpages.
He's infinitely closer to a final product than somebody who isn't trying.

If you're going to comment on other people's work, and not contribute anything directly, at least be constructive in your criticism.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:08 PM
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He's infinitely closer to a final product than somebody who isn't trying.

If you're going to comment on other people's work, and not contribute anything directly, at least be constructive in your criticism.
Clearly you've never taken interest in professional art. There's nothing wrong with insulting someone's work when you yourself aren't doing anything. How else will the artist know if his work is good, if even the people who can't paint say it's ugly.

Also, if we all think Hik's site is just as ugly as the current one, will that really be a step forward?
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:13 PM
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Also, if we all think Hik's site is just as ugly as the current one, will that really be a step forward?
I was thinking the same.
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They're not going to update their webpage, especially if it's some half-assed webpage a player made. Would you want that anymore than I would, or am I the only one who wants Graal to be presented WELL to potential customers?





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