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[HoudiniMan]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Wow those are some seriously ugly webpages.

He's infinitely closer to a final product than somebody who isn't trying.

If you're going to comment on other people's work, and not contribute anything directly, at least be constructive in your criticism.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

He's infinitely closer to a final product than somebody who isn't trying.

If you're going to comment on other people's work, and not contribute anything directly, at least be constructive in your criticism.

Clearly you've never taken interest in professional art. There's nothing wrong with insulting someone's work when you yourself aren't doing anything. How else will the artist know if his work is good, if even the people who can't paint say it's ugly.

Also, if we all think Hik's site is just as ugly as the current one, will that really be a step forward?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by kia345

Also, if we all think Hik's site is just as ugly as the current one, will that really be a step forward?

I was thinking the same.

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

If you're going to comment on other people's work, and not contribute anything directly, at least be constructive in your criticism.

They're not going to update their webpage, especially if it's some half-assed webpage a player made. Would you want that anymore than I would, or am I the only one who wants Graal to be presented WELL to potential customers?

[HoudiniMan]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I was thinking the same.
They're not going to update their webpage, especially if it's some half-assed webpage a player made. Would you want that anymore than I would, or am I the only one who wants Graal to be presented WELL to potential customers?

Originally Posted by kia345

Clearly you've never taken interest in professional art. There's nothing wrong with insulting someone's work when you yourself aren't doing anything. How else will the artist know if his work is good, if even the people who can't paint say it's ugly.

Also, if we all think Hik's site is just as ugly as the current one, will that really be a step forward?

Does it really help to just say "That's ugly" instead of "Wow, too much contrast" or "Wow, hard to navigate"? I don't think so. No professional or any other kind of artist improves from hearing "You suck".

That's why I said be constructive.

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On a lighter note, Skyld's page is looking as he said a little mashed-up and a little Mac-y but it's definitely Graal feeling, in a mashed-up Mac-y way, lol.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

Mac-y

What is that supposed to mean?

That the buttons look Mac-y because they are Mac buttons?

ORLY?

In any case Skyld's looks okay, but a little plain, needs a background like someone else said.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

Does it really help to just say "That's ugly".

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

That's why I said be constructive.

Right, I forgot have no choice but to be responsible for everyone else. I think it's ugly, and I don't think it's worth criticising because it's very far from a functional final...


Saying that is probably a lot more insulting than "wow that's ugly". I really wish you're start trying to be productive yourself rather than trolling me for what I decided to do or not to - as you would say.

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

No professional or any other kind of artist improves from hearing "You suck".

A professional gets trained, and pays for it. If they want to be professionals here they can pay too. That's not really my responsibility.








Skyld's page isn't so great either. It's still really busy - the earlier graal stuff was better because it was more simple. But Skyld's making a lot of bad choices with his page, especially not putting a different color below the text, or putting it in some containing box. It looks very weird free flowing.

[Elk]

Originally Posted by Stephen

A professional gets trained, and pays for it. If they want to be professionals here they can pay too. That's not really my responsibility.

^ agreed

[grawlgamer]

Sklyd's original post with the left image, is pure awesemnity, if you could make that the f8 menu, and when you use the arrow keys to go left and right in between the worlds, it made a little classic "ding" would be great. Or you could go with a "Coverflow" feel that glides effortlessly across the screen..

[cbk1994]

Did Stefan/unixmad actually pay people to make the website?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Did Stefan/unixmad actually pay people to make the website?

They had a temp working with them. Could have been part of a work term for his education, not sure.

There would be a lot of programming needed to actually interface with the Graal database and such. I'm really not sure a revamp is worth the work just so it looks better - there's no reason to believe a large enough group of people will find interest in the site to warrant it.

I dunno, I've offered a few times to help with the GUI and stuff of the game. It's a area of interest for me, but they've either ignored or asked me to do some menial task which was entirely unrelated.