Lets Put A Stop To It Now! - Page 6

Timpan3 · #76 11-17-2002, 08:03 AM

Try and censour this

<Okay, I will - Kaimetsu>

An example of how easy the censour could be avoided, and it's not like you're gonna censour every possible way to make out the word, because there's too many of them

ass
4ss
azz
4zz
/-\ss
/-\zz

and so on..

Googi · #77 11-17-2002, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Timpan3
Try and censour this

"Fuk u you b1tch! I'll fuking rap3 your azz"

An example of how easy the censour could be avoided, and it's not like you're gonna censour every possible way to make out the word, because there's too many of them

ass
4ss
azz
4zz
/-\ss
/-\zz

and so on..

Again, like Kaimetsu said, profanity is less effective when you have to decipher it to read it.

zell12 · #78 11-17-2002, 09:52 AM

The if they do avoid the censor you ban the retards.

Googi · #79 11-17-2002, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zell12
The if they do avoid the censor you ban the retards.

<3

Timpan3 · #80 11-17-2002, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zell12
The if they do avoid the censor you ban the retards.

Doesn't that just take us back to part 1? Part 1 being the current rules about the swearing issues. If people wants to talk with profanities, they'll just avoid the filter, and it will do nothing other than making people having to change a few letters in the swear, so unless this filter is going to contain more than just the plain word, it's capacitiy would greatly decrease.

How about this, *!*!*!*!*!*!*! (sorry for that, just for show)

There are other ways to accomplish those kinda things

*.**.***.* (yet again, sorry..)

There's another example.

Bottom line : Unless this filter will go all the way (by overseeing such patterns and such) , it wouldn't be as usefull as it could be.

ADDED : Also, how about slangs/names that contain profanities?such as :

wASSup = w***up
Assure = ***ure <-- that one could probably be misunderstood.

etc. etc.

Timpan3 · #81 11-17-2002, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

The filter isn't for dealing with idiots, it's for dealing with people that don't know they're not allowed to swear or are happy to have the text replaced with asterisks, knowing that the meaning is mostly preserved.

So you're saying that people who swear are automatically idiots? I can't figure out how it could be "preserved" when the meaning itself still excists, it doesn't matter how I type it, does it?

Spark910 · #82 11-17-2002, 06:48 PM

Im afriad it does matter, While **** (Without any *s) may be offensive! **** is not or how ever you would want to get around it so as long as the main offsive words are gone! And people arent bothered by '***************" So no one is bothered is people say things like that.

Timpan3 · #83 11-17-2002, 06:53 PM

Spark910, you're a *****!
Spark910 is a dirty *****!

Does that offend you as much as the real words? You shouldn't , atleast you've stated that, because no on will bother.

Timpan3 · #84 11-17-2002, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

No, but I'll say that people who extract completely incorrect meanings from my simple posts are automatically idiots.

I was explaining that people who use profanities will just avoid the filter, and you say that the filter will not be used for "idiots", stating my previous explanation of the group of people who DO use profanaties, so no, it was not "completely incorrect".

Spark910 · #85 11-17-2002, 07:27 PM

No that doesn't offend me as Ill just ignore you if you said that as you would be being an idiot for saying it in the first place.

Timpan3 · #86 11-17-2002, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spark910
No that doesn't offend me as Ill just ignore you if you said that as you would be being an idiot for saying it in the first place.

If you were to ignore it, why not ignore the REAL swearing word? Meaning there wouldn't be any difference.

Spark910 · #87 11-17-2002, 09:14 PM

Anyway.. If they agreed to it and broke that, and its a rule and break that, and is stopped with an Anti-filer and they try and get around/break that then they are ''Idiotic'' and shouldn't be playing graal as they are spoiling it for the rest of us. And for about the 16th time, the real words are offensive the ones with stars are not! Which is why i'd ignore stars!

Timpan3 · #88 11-18-2002, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Oh, so now you're telling me what I meant? See, that's where I went wrong; I assumed that I was the one that decided what my meaning was. Y'know, since it's my meaning.

I've never restrained you from "deciding" the meaning, I just summed it up, but maybe I missread it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

These people are idiots. Not all those who use profanity will do this, however. Those that refrain from doing so fall outside of my idiots category.

Why would that make them idiots? Because they don't abide to the swear filter? I might be way off there, but that's how I understand it.

Googi · #89 11-18-2002, 07:31 AM

Even if you were correct, and the profanity swear filter was all-but-useless, it would still probably block out atleast one word in one message, in which case it was worth adding.

Thak2 · #90 11-18-2002, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Since filters doesn't really work, it would be
better to just log use of such words and
then temporary ban the player (if he hasn't
said it by mistake or quoted something)

Stefan said that, in this thread.
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...5&pagenumber=1

Basically same anti-swearing idea came up more than a year ago, but was not used.

I don't think any censorship things will go into graal, and I hope they don't too.

View Poll Results: Lets Stop Abuse On Graal? [Phase 1- Swearing]
Build a built in profanity stopper into Graal.	24	43.64%
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