Griffin

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by TifaKhan


Sir, the server is called Griffin and i am presently banned on it
ban reason: if it you dont like us, dont come on. It's simple.AT ALL.

holy crap, i know a guy that plays on the account "Griffin," I thought you were talking about HIM having hats....heh, sorry.

It seems mr. Spork was in a bad mood and having a bad day, i logged on after being told they had some hats that Lady Auron had made for Doomsday, and saw mr. Spork in the process of threatening to jail/ban a player for whatver reason he could conjur up.

I don't like spork, personal run ins with him in the past. I think he worked on N-pulse at one point and he wasn't exactly the most sincere person I've met on there....far from it.

I said i wanted Lady Aurons hats removed and on investigation found they also had NPulses hats, so i called Moonie and my Co Manager on to see, by that time i had been disconnected twice and banned for the above reason.
If i were to ban everyone that didnt like Doomsday, there wouldnt be many Graalians left would there.

I wasn't there when the complaints took place and I can't exactly take anybody's word over anyone elses's, but I think the whole ban-situation may be a bit too harsh, but it really depends on the actions taken by you to have these graphics removed.....

Anyway, no i dont believe its legal, otherwise why did i get in trouble for having era_ gfx?

What graphics were they and who asked you to remove them?

I dont believe we are allowed to pull whatever gfx are in the folder and use it.

I don't see a problem with it. All of Graal's playerworlds are serving one purpose and that is to attract and keep players on graal. GK's graphics were professionally made and are on a gold server, so you can't use those unless with permission, and that is understandable.

[LegendaryAzreil]

Well, just put it this way. Each server with there graphics they dont want others using just put servername-file.fileformat. Which Doomsday's hats were labeled in that way. People should have atleast a high enough level of respect for peoples graphics. I think Spork has gone threw puberty and not getting anything in return it seems. So he's having his bad days until he gets the bottle of lotion and opens it. ;P

kthx
- Azreil

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by LegendaryAzreil
Well, just put it this way. Each server with there graphics they dont want others using just put servername-file.fileformat. Which Doomsday's hats were labeled in that way. People should have atleast a high enough level of respect for peoples graphics. I think Spork has gone threw puberty and not getting anything in return it seems. So he's having his bad days until he gets the bottle of lotion and opens it. ;P

kthx
- Azreil

You say he should be banned for harassment, yet you are talking about puberty and him not "scoring" or "getting some"...? That's not exactly helping you.

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by Tseng


It's a rule, and has been for some time. I do believe it's in the set of pw guidelines Spark (and Houdini too I think? Not sure.) were writing with Lyndzey's guidance.

'were writing,' so they are not posted or displayed anywhere yet? I believe stefan himself said no server can "copyright" an image, they all belong to graal once uploaded. Otherwise, I am absolutely positive I would have posted a rule objecting to using any images from any other playerworld in specific without permission.

[Tseng]

Originally posted by Torankusu
'were writing,' so they are not posted or displayed anywhere yet? I believe stefan himself said no server can "copyright" an image, they all belong to graal once uploaded. Otherwise, I am absolutely positive I would have posted a rule objecting to using any images from any other playerworld in specific without permission.

Dunno, I thought the globaldocs idea wasn't a very good one, but it could have been uploaded there. Not sure. Anyway, it's like stealing scripts in that it is disallowed.

[WarLord2004]

I really hope they get a global graphics team round up to come and clear up these problems. Unless there's a area where you can post stolen stuff and someone take action. :o

[Fogy]

1 hats are public domain and 2 doomsday stole the dice npc of aylad so mabey he should sue you

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by Fogy
1 hats are public domain and 2 doomsday stole the dice npc of aylad so mabey he should sue you

1) Please show me where it says that anyone can use a PW's personal hats

2) DD has had those dice on their PW for a long time, are you saying they stole them from a new PW? Unlikely

[ETD]

Originally posted by WarLord2004
I really hope they get a global graphics team round up to come and clear up these problems. Unless there's a area where you can post stolen stuff and someone take action. :o

it would be nice if there WAS a global graphics team
=x
i think they all kinda went their own ways...

I know the one member (Kyle Odin) is our gfx chief... and i talk to the head of the GGT on aim sometimes (Zen) and he doesn't seem very motivated to gather a team together again...

and besides, i think the PWA 'should' be able to fix things like this... but the team isn;t big enough to solve everything, and isn;t given the rights to really do anything about it either
=x

[Shroomed]

The plunger and those eye-glasses in that so called "stolen pic" are just simple recolorations. The other 3 are just ugly. Theres no copyright, so theres nothing you can do. Stop argueing just so you can get you post count up Darlene. End of story, score one for the bad guys, Woo Hoo!!!!

[Eric_1337]

Originally posted by Darlene159

1) Please show me where it says that anyone can use a PW's personal hats

Please show me where it says you can't use a PW's hat.

[ETD]

Originally posted by Eric_1337


Please show me where it says you can't use a PW's hat.

very true... when you have something uploaded, it says that it is 'property of graal online' but it doesn;t say that that 1 server owns it
=x
not that i support servers sharing graphics... i think that it is pointless if every server was allowed to use any graphics... then all servers would just use the same graphics, and then they'd look alike, and that would be kinda pointless
=/

[WarLord2004]

Hmmm personally now i don't belive i'll upload anything else on graal for a while since the rules here must be so out of control. Cause serously if i release all new things me and my developer has been working on and i see any recolored images/or images been resized i would be mad personally and take my anger out on that server. It's the lack of creativty which puts down graal for most playerworld have to always watch out for other servers stealing stuff. Now since there soo many new servers popping up don't you belive 1 out of 37 server would use stuff from another server. And people like the griffin server makes me sick sorry to say all doomsday asked was to simply remove the hats. I hope some high global sees this and call in some action or atleast change some of the PW rules for stolen content cause after all we are paying for these servers and it would really piss us of if we see our work spread all over graal.

[Darlene159]

Why would Angel be talking to Tifa, then talking to sp0rk, if it werent illegal.....using others gfx has been a no no for as long as I can remember

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by Darlene159
Why would Angel be talking to Tifa, then talking to sp0rk, if it werent illegal.....using others gfx has been a no no for as long as I can remember

Mind explaining to me what angel's real job/purpose with Graal Online is.....?

As far as I am concerned she is a level 1 global RC that has to have other admins do things for her because she is not authorized to.