Classic Progress Report.

[Leonis]

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

Stev is staff, and he is taking swings at the players in a graal setting.

If I'm such a bad guy, then why ask me to work on your new version of Classic?

[p2p_Sir_Link]

Because you have talents, and that's the number 1 priority at the moment

[Minoc]

You should reconsider your priorities.

[p2p_Sir_Link]

Do you even know what server I am talking about?
Log onto Kalypso and you'll realize that we need lots of levels done quick.

[Stev579]

What grudge do you have against me, Minoc? ;[

[Shaun]

I just took a look around those catacombs and the newer levels associated with them.

I'm surprised any server on the classic tab allowed those levels to be uploaded. I came across NPC's that didn't work properly (there were a few state.png's that were lying around) and there were the worst levels I have ever seen on that server.

Whoever uploaded those levels is either incompetent or bias with his/her job. I know nothing of who uploaded it, but there is no reason, except those mentioned in the previous sentence, for why those levels are online.

[Leonis]

Most NPCs don't work because we're using GScript2, and not many of us know how to use it. Looking at the levels from the other end of the stick, we've done rather well compared to what most people have to offer.

As for the levels being the worst you've ever seen; which levels are you talking about?

state.pngs? What version are you using? Linux? rofl

Uploading **** playerhouses on Classic has always occured, so don't even start with this, "Worst levels I have ever seen on that server" crap. You thought perhaps noob Saibot's house was decent? Or maybe hons' house? :/ Your house alone screamed "Pre-defined objects," so don't start.

Thanks for your opinion Shaun, however it is most invalid.

[notoalpena]

Ok well,woopty doo woopty daa,I luda king of cool am here

I AM GOING TO MAKE SOME POINTS HERE U BLOODY GRAALIANS
1:CLASSIC'S MANAGEMENT SUCKS,and I AGREE WITH MAXIMUS
2:I FIND IT RETARDED HOW VENTRUE HAS A GUILDHOUSE BIGGER THAN CLASSIC'S OVERWORLD (THEY BRAG ABOUT IT 2),NO HATES ON MY BROTHER STEV THO
3:I FIND THIS ONE POST EVERY 24 HOURS THING BS,VIP'S SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO POST MORE OFTEN 2,SCREW GOLD ITS ANOTHER WAY FOR U FOOLS TO GET MORE MONEY YOU GREEDY ITALIANS
4:I AM KING OF COOL.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Leonis

Most NPCs don't work because we're using GScript2, and not many of us know how to use it. Looking at the levels from the other end of the stick, we've done rather well compared to what most people have to offer.

As for the levels being the worst you've ever seen; which levels are you talking about?

state.pngs? What version are you using? Linux? rofl

Uploading **** playerhouses on Classic has always occured, so don't even start with this, "Worst levels I have ever seen on that server" crap. You thought perhaps noob Saibot's house was decent? Or maybe hons' house? :/ Your house alone screamed "Pre-defined objects," so don't start.

Thanks for your opinion Shaun, however it is most invalid.

[Evil_Trunks]

Originally Posted by Leonis

Most NPCs don't work because we're using GScript2, and not many of us know how to use it.

or because they were made wrong to begin with and no one has bothered to fix them.

NPC Code:

---

NPC state.png 64 8

if (created) {

  dontblock;

  drawoverplayer;

  x = 576;

  y = 8;

  setgifpart 84,81,14,16;}

NPCEND

---

this isn't a great example but there are many more like this, and I highly doubt someone fixed them all

Originally Posted by Leonis

Uploading **** playerhouses on Classic has always occured, so don't even start with this, "Worst levels I have ever seen on that server" crap. You thought perhaps noob Saibot's house was decent? Or maybe hons' house? :/ Your house alone screamed "Pre-defined objects," so don't start.

Thanks for your opinion Shaun, however it is most invalid.

way to be rude and try to sound smart

[Leonis]

Originally Posted by That one kid who dressed up like a girl a lot on Graal

way to be rude and try to sound smart

Yeah, it was rude. Sadly though, it's all very true, and very smart. No "trying" to be smart around here.

Originally Posted by LUDA

2),NO HATES ON MY BROTHER STEV THO

<3

Originally Posted by LUDA#2

2:I FIND IT RETARDED HOW VENTRUE HAS A GUILDHOUSE BIGGER THAN CLASSIC'S OVERWORLD

wtf mate. Remember that it was designed for the old Classic, like, when Classic was massive. In comparison, US island was much larger and would be if it was uploaded now! That won't happen though, because people like Maximus are too busy complaining about Ventrue's guildhouse instead of fixing their own monstrosity.

Originally Posted by LUDA#3

YOU GREEDY ITALIANS

r0lf italians

Originally Posted by random fkn gold subscriber n3wbi3 who really knows nothing about what's going on but decides to post in this thread anyway

Yea, **** off. I know how you guys treasure your post counts, personal titles and all that other **** that's post related, but leave your spam out of the only decent thread on this entire board. Thank you kindly.

[maximus_asinus]

Lets try to get this back on topic. Classic is going to hell because of the Manager, he needs to step down. I contacted Tyhm, and sadly, he said he wouldn't come back. He does agree on how poorly Storm manages, and how Ventrue has there hand in its downfall.

[Leonis]

Thanks for getting this thread back on topic, but since when has Tyhm logged onto Classic? How exactly has Ventrue had a hand in Classic's downfall?

Without justification of your statement, we can safely say that you're just out to bash us. Our guild house has not aided the downfall of Classic. Master Storm isn't Ventrue, so you can't blame us for that, so what's the reasoning?

[StrykerTFFD]

Despite my post asking for this to end, it has not. Surprise Surprise.
Whatever.

Like every one of these posts, it curved off topic...way off topic might I add, and had to be brought back on topic. Shows you how much people really care on this matter, doesn't it?

If a guild and its guild house is the downfall of Classic, then you really need a reality check on what caused the downfall of Classic. The playercount has dwindled ever since the time of p2p. It came back for a bit, but then fell again after the lack of updates. Now instead of embracing the updates Storm has planned, you want them done faster, and on your schedule. That's just being greedy.

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

Despite my post asking for this to end, it has not. Surprise Surprise.
Whatever.

I won't stop until I've seen results.

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

..If a guild and its guild house is the downfall of Classic..

I don't blame everything on Ventrue. They are apart of the problem, (actually just the few corrupted staff members who're around it), but most of the problem is Storm.

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

The playercount has dwindled ever since the time of p2p.

P2P effected Classic, as every server, but everyone else managed to turn around and recuperate. Classic hasn't. All the Managers are at fault for this one. Tyhm for going inactive, Com013 for leaving, the others who were there. Then we come to Storm, he took over, tried to get some levels up, couldn't (because of some bogus reason, he could have rescripted a bow and bomb), then decides to delete all the work on dev, start over, make a poor hit detection system, then when its put up, he forces this down the throuts of us Classic members, even though we complained. He ignores the player's opinion, thoughts, etc. We continue on, several months after the initial release. Nothing is added. Continue some more, we're promised some quests, but nothing is released. What is it, six months now? No quests, no updates. He blames in on various things (not everyone has V3,V4 or some bug in some systems), these are very poor reasons, he could have developed and worked out bugs as he went. Hit detection system. I don't know where to begin. It doesn't work. Various bugs, that I've reported to him, haven't been fixed (killing people who are paused, killing people who 'lag out', laming rating from other accounts, etc).

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

It came back for a bit, but then fell again after the lack of updates. Now instead of embracing the updates Storm has planned, you want them done faster, and on your schedule.

The problem is, Storm doesn't have a schedule. He doesn't believe in deadlines, he told me that himself. He has no plans for the future, well not until V4 is released to the public (and they haven't set a release date for this either). Storm is going to leave Classic, it'll stuggle, and die out. When it hits bottom, it'll be impossible to restore. It'll be tainted. Just look at Graal2001. The Management there destroyed the server, and because of their stubbornness, it'll never go anywhere.

I think the best thing that can be done besides removing Storm, is releasing the Levels set to certain people, who would try and build a real version of Classic. Whoever did the best job would get the Classic tab, the other server gets the boot.