Miscellaneous Kingdom Discussion

[busyrobot]

Well, GK will never be limited to level thirty, it just won't happen...staff/playerbase wise. Its also hard to blame players who work hard to get to high levels to defend their kingdoms and penalize them, chances are in the end high end players will take a hit so the least we can do is ensure that its thought out as best as possible.

As for combining zormite and dustari, they are very very distinct kingdoms. Dustari is very medieval, and zormite is both a replublic and has a very ancient world feel to it. The two nations have an alliance that makes them as strong as one kingdom, but diversity would be lost if they were merged.

What we need is a good plot, a good RP story to tell. In addition to that, an effective mechanism that helped promote RP compatible wars would greatly help.

[Nappa]

Dustari and Zormite are as good as one. We could just cut out the middle man. The only reason this wont happen is one of these little queens will have to give up their throne.

[busyrobot]

Originally Posted by Nappa

Dustari and Zormite are as good as one. We could just cut out the middle man. The only reason this wont happen is one of these little queens will have to give up their throne.

I'll take note of that and file it under "how not to make a constructive comment" thank you. If you can't see the difference between the two kingdoms you are making a point of not wanting to.

[MadScience7]

I think CP is on the way up. We have a good core group of active members
who participate in all the events, are always on tag, and are always helping
and encouraging each other. It's a fun and active kingdom with a lot going on.

As for RP, thats a no win game where nobody is ever happy. Some vocal
people will always say there's not enough and then when you make rules to
enforce RP, a big group on the other side says that sucks. We try to take a
middle road where RP is encouraged, without making it a requirement.
In fact, to promote interest in RP, we are working on a Pirates-Zormite RP
event which I hope will be the first of many. I hope other kingdoms will also
be interested in this setting up this type of event.

As with anything in life, its easy to sit back and criticize the way things are,
but much harder to be part of the solution and work to make things better.

Governor Alan Steele - Crescent Pirates

[WanDaMan]

Yeah! only have 4 kingdoms and keep the allies so everything will be perfect. Get real, get some action no one wants to play a game where they can't battle anyone in a different kingdom -_-

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by busyrobot

Well, GK will never be limited to level thirty, it just won't happen...staff/playerbase wise. Its also hard to blame players who work hard to get to high levels to defend their kingdoms and penalize them, chances are in the end high end players will take a hit so the least we can do is ensure that its thought out as best as possible.

Yeah, we dont want to piss off the top five players so that the 100 other players can enjoy a game. That'd just be a crime against humanity itself.

Lower everyone's EXP down 80%-90% and make it harder to get EXP, tada! Zurkiba has just solved how to level the levels.

Not to mention most people just abuse bugs to get exp. Granted there will always be bugs but atleast those bug exploiters wont be leading the kingdoms.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

As for combining zormite and dustari, they are very very distinct kingdoms. Dustari is very medieval, and zormite is both a replublic and has a very ancient world feel to it. The two nations have an alliance that makes them as strong as one kingdom, but diversity would be lost if they were merged.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

I'll take note of that and file it under "how not to make a constructive comment" thank you. If you can't see the difference between the two kingdoms you are making a point of not wanting to.

Awesome, not only are both kingdoms lead by people from Dustari. They go against every single set of prior settings to ruin kingdoms.

Zormite has an ancient feel? For me it has a vomitting feel . If you think that then Zen has failed in his reasoning to make Zormite feel like a modern state.

Dustari is more like a fantasy human kingdom. Otherwise 90% of the army would be carrying around pickaxes and lumber axes while the other 10% were Knights.

Yeah, Republic by name, Monarchy by actuality.

What diversity? The different rank names.

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

What diversity? The different rank names.

And different members + island. It just makes so much more sense to combine Zormite and Dustari since they operate as one anyway too.

[busyrobot]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Yeah, we dont want to piss off the top five players so that the 100 other players can enjoy a game. That'd just be a crime against humanity itself.

Lower everyone's EXP down 80%-90% and make it harder to get EXP, tada! Zurkiba has just solved how to level the levels.

Not to mention most people just abuse bugs to get exp. Granted there will always be bugs but atleast those bug exploiters wont be leading the kingdoms.

First, you'll find its more like 100 players getting pissed off and about 5 or so in favor...even Zoe, who is the strongest player in the game last I checked, was in favor of a complete reset. If you think she abused bugs, check her hours - she earned her XP. If it wasn't for players like her lots of PKers who have absolutely no interest in RPing would have had total run of every island on GK, you should really be thanking her. I have personally proposed ideas such as nerphing people's XP by percent, and fixing the xp amounts, but if you wait for things like that to further roleplaying then you are obstructing, not helping, progress with RPing.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Awesome, not only are both kingdoms lead by people from Dustari. They go against every single set of prior settings to ruin kingdoms.

Aki has been in zormite for ages, she's one of the oldest members of that kingdom.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Zormite has an ancient feel? For me it has a vomitting feel . If you think that then Zen has failed in his reasoning to make Zormite feel like a modern state.

That is because of your unhealthy obsession with zormite/fishhead issues. If you were a better roleplayer you would have long ago accepted that Zormite is the way it is. I doubt you could roleplay a character who was even neutral towards Zormite, because of your petty out of character differences of opinion on the direction it should have taken. You should accept that fishheads hurt roleplaying (how do you recruit people to join a kingdom who have RP characters that are.............not fish? Zormite has to be a working kingdom, not just a goldfish bowl for your ammusment)

As for Zen, he did add a much more modern touch, but it definately has a bronze age feel to the island overall, that it has a longer history.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Dustari is more like a fantasy human kingdom. Otherwise 90% of the army would be carrying around pickaxes and lumber axes while the other 10% were Knights.

Picking hairs here.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Yeah, Republic by name, Monarchy by actuality.

What diversity? The different rank names.

Yeah, Monarchy by game mechanics as a result of the fixed kingdom GUI, a Republic by roleplaying of its members. The only thing that is so similar between Dustari and Zormite, is your ill founded petty contempt for both.
Get over it so you can stop being such an obstructionist and actually help further progress with roleplaying. I think we are trying to brainstorm here, not bicker over long dead differences of direction in the various kingdoms' developments.

[protagonist]

Idea: Any one on a kingdom tag gets their stats set to a fixed position.

[Nappa]

The only thing different about Dustari and Zormite is the name. They both go together with every decision. The kingdom leaders are of the same royal family. You and I both know that the only differences are the names.

[busyrobot]

Originally Posted by Nappa

The only thing different about Dustari and Zormite is the name. They both go together with every decision. The kingdom leaders are of the same royal family. You and I both know that the only differences are the names.

A strong alliance is not the same as both of them functioning the same. They have entirely different roleplaying setups and styles. As different as CP and forest. I prefer the human/medieval/fantasy type kingdom, to roleplay in greatly to that of a republic. That is my personal preference. People who prefer differently, of course, are in zormite. Then there are people who prefer to complain about everything, and like you, they are not in any kingdom.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by busyrobot

Then there are people who prefer to complain about everything, and like you, they are not in any kingdom.

That must be why I'm not in any kingdom either. Well, I was in Samurai until the Empress found out I wanted to take over. :[

[Aethorpe]

Originally Posted by GoZelda

It was in decline ever since Ziro was kicked.

I don't think the pirates are in decline, I know they are, and I will tell you why, because the pirates aren't pirates anymore, they are people who like pirates.

I would like to note that the quote in Ziro's signature has become less of a joke, and more of a reality, please observe.

Originally Posted by Ziro's Forum Signature

<taken off AIM, Ryan W referring to Zormite on GK after I told him why they're not a fish-like race anymore>
Freak0102: That's like the new Governor of CP saying "I don't really like pirates since GK doesn't have eye patches and stuff, so let's be guys who think pirates are cool instead"

Believe it or not, I was actually talking to Alisa on teamspeak and with her own words, she might as well have said just that, she said something along the lines of:

"Pirates are mean and cruel because they kill people and steal things, so I don't think we should be like pirates, but more like a pirate club."

It's a sad fact people, wake up, CP has no true pirates anymore, all the true pirates that were in CP got kicked out for being pirates.

IE: killing on tag, stealing/scamming, cursing, things that are to be expected of any halfway decent pirate scum

If I am not mistaken, pirates are societal outcast who have turned towards violence and theft as a more adventurous and profitable line of work, CP is just a bunch of carebears with hooks that say "Ahoy" alot.

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by busyrobot

They have entirely different roleplaying setups and styles.

But, since they don't roleplay anyway, this doesn't matter.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by busyrobot

First, you'll find its more like 100 players getting pissed off and about 5 or so in favor...even Zoe, who is the strongest player in the game last I checked, was in favor of a complete reset. If you think she abused bugs, check her hours - she earned her XP. If it wasn't for players like her lots of PKers who have absolutely no interest in RPing would have had total run of every island on GK, you should really be thanking her. I have personally proposed ideas such as nerphing people's XP by percent, and fixing the xp amounts, but if you wait for things like that to further roleplaying then you are obstructing, not helping, progress with RPing.

Zoe is a hypocrite or a bug exploiter. Zoe told me that I need to get a life, and that Graal is only a game.

I have a lot of hours on Graal Kingdoms, which must mean I should be higher then level 6 right?

How does Zoe's level influence the number of roleplayers in the game? It doesn't. If anything it deters people from roleplaying in general. Because of players like her there are no wars and therefore roleplaying slowly dies.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

That is because of your unhealthy obsession with zormite/fishhead issues. If you were a better roleplayer you would have long ago accepted that Zormite is the way it is. I doubt you could roleplay a character who was even neutral towards Zormite, because of your petty out of character differences of opinion on the direction it should have taken. You should accept that fishheads hurt roleplaying (how do you recruit people to join a kingdom who have RP characters that are.............not fish? Zormite has to be a working kingdom, not just a goldfish bowl for your ammusment)

Obviously you fail to understand that the current state is not roleplaying. 'OMG IT WAS MAGIC AND NOW WE'RE HUMANS! OMG!' wow, nice roleplaying there.

Funny, I could've swore the Zormite Empire of 2k1 did perfectly fine. In fact I believe it became the most active kingdom on 2k1 and conquered the world. Gasp! No you're right, being a fish would never work and it ruins roleplaying and the state of Zormite in general.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

As for Zen, he did add a much more modern touch, but it definately has a bronze age feel to the island overall, that it has a longer history.

Ugh

Originally Posted by busyrobot

Get over it so you can stop being such an obstructionist and actually help further progress with roleplaying. I think we are trying to brainstorm here, not bicker over long dead differences of direction in the various kingdoms' developments.

Obstructionist? Hardly. If you listened to me then we wouldn't be in this mess.

If you couldn't tell I'm a very aggressive person. Ergo I fix problems the way I know best, through aggression. Why?.. because the leaders of today do not understand what their kingdom is.

We are not brainstorming here. The point of the thread is to discuss if Cresent Pirates are going downhill. It went far off track with discussions such as this. But the conversations had to be in this thread because the corruption over at the Dustari forums just flooded the ideas of all elsewhere.

It is you are the obstructionist. Along with you are some of the other kingdom leaders. The kingdom leaders are directly responsible for the outcome of the roleplaying community of Graal Kingdoms and you have failed.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

Then there are people who prefer to complain about everything, and like you, they are not in any kingdom.

You fail to understand that a person with KAD rights can not remove a person from a kingdom.

Do you think I am not a Dustarian? Far from it. I am more Dustarian than you are. I still believe myself to be within the kingdom. The same is with Nappa and the Zormites. Why dont you ask Nappa how much the Zormites have influenced his life.