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Old 07-23-2004, 10:51 AM
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lol i was wondering where u were O_o =P
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Old 07-23-2004, 12:24 PM
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It's stupid because it is TWO DAYS out of an entire year's worth of gold? People do not get run over, catch on fire, recieve the flu virus, or anything else bad just because they don't get two days of graal.

Getting worked up about TWO DAYS without graal is just pathetic. Know what i did when i couldnt play graal that day? I went outside, kicked a football around for a while. Then i did some exercises with my weights for the first time in ages. In other words, I DID SOMETHING ELSE. And that's exactly what this guy should have done, but instead he probably sat around sulking and planning out his demand for compensation.

Seriously man, if you pay a solid £10 a month for internet, and your ISP is down for two days, you don't ring up and ask for 2 days worth of free internet, do you? If there's a powercut, you don't ring up and ask for 5 hours of free electricity, do you? Unless you're pathetic, the answer is no.

Seriously, the only reason i can think of why any of you would be going along with this guy and saying his request is reasonable slash demanding for two days free gold yourself is so that you can have a nice big stab at the establishment.
Ps.If that is the reason, then lol, carry on, having a stab is one of my favourite things I just think it's stupid to demand compensation for a few hours without some game as if it were a serious matter which caused you great harm.

Do you even play GK Monkeyboy? Lifting your arms to put deodarant on doesn't count as lifting weights. I've never seen you on the server. Anyway when my ISP (comcast cable) goes down I call them and they say approximately when it will be back on and I get credit for the time its down. I bought i think 182 days (6 months) of gold time so dont tell me two wont make a difference. If it happens more times those days will stack up. Oh and to those that are arguing that its only 11 cents a day to play Graal, its not about how much it costs, its about paying for it and not getting it. Thallen I think you were just jokin but I dont care about a NPC server restart. Its when the server is dead for 2 days that I go issed:
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Old 07-23-2004, 03:38 PM
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Do you even play GK Monkeyboy? Lifting your arms to put deodarant on doesn't count as lifting weights. I've never seen you on the server. Anyway when my ISP (comcast cable) goes down I call them and they say approximately when it will be back on and I get credit for the time its down. I bought i think 182 days (6 months) of gold time so dont tell me two wont make a difference. If it happens more times those days will stack up. Oh and to those that are arguing that its only 11 cents a day to play Graal, its not about how much it costs, its about paying for it and not getting it. Thallen I think you were just jokin but I dont care about a NPC server restart. Its when the server is dead for 2 days that I go issed:
***** @ you. I'm an EM on gk, thanks, and i've never seen you on there either.

And holy crap @ all the whiny impatient people who ring up their isps as soon as they can't get internet XD I guess i was wrong about that one.

Also...well, let's see. 182-2=180, so i'd say, no, it still doesn't make a difference.
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:34 PM
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***** @ you. I'm an EM on gk, thanks, and i've never seen you on there either.
And I have spent several dozen hours on GK the past few days, and I have seen you on there once and on tag not at all. That is not very fitting for an EM.

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And holy crap @ all the whiny impatient people who ring up their isps as soon as they can't get internet XD I guess i was wrong about that one.
I do not see how not receiving a service you are paying for and requesting some type of compensation for it is in any way whiny or impatient.

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Also...well, let's see. 182-2=180, so i'd say, no, it still doesn't make a difference.
To you. I think we've pretty-well established that it makes a difference to other people.
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:00 PM
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And holy crap @ all the whiny impatient people who ring up their isps as soon as they can't get internet XD I guess i was wrong about that one.
Do you pay for your own internet connection?
It going down can become a serious issue
especially when you count on the internet as much as I do
not necessarily because I'm pathetic and don't have a real life
That's also true, but I pay a lot of bills and do a lot of business online
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:26 PM
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And holy crap @ all the whiny impatient people who ring up their isps as soon as they can't get internet XD I guess i was wrong about that one.
Though it may not have said it in the contract, -I- still paid for internet access. When it goes down for one day (sometimes it does) I ring and complain. I'm not impatient, just dont have anything better to do sometimes :/
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Old 07-24-2004, 08:48 AM
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Things happen. Other games go down, players are not reimbursed.

However, with Graal, the playerbase is majorly young, creating an atmosphere where services like 24 hour server up-time is constantly in request....

I don't believe any gold time should be awarded, being that there were other GOLD servers to play on. If ALL of gold servers were down, possibly (Including hosted).

It was unfortunate, but expected with any MMORPG.

To Stefan and Unixmad, I suggest adding this into the user agreement, that any unexpected downtime is unfortunate but non-reimbursable.
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Old 07-24-2004, 09:10 AM
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I dont think anyone bought gold time to play on HOSTED servers......

That would make the company look really bad if you had to agree to that. I can't see how people would not want thier time back. How about making us agree to if we have problems with our account your not allowed to get fixed. Thats what that rule would signify.
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Old 07-24-2004, 09:29 AM
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I dont think anyone bought gold time to play on HOSTED servers......

That would make the company look really bad if you had to agree to that. I can't see how people would not want thier time back. How about making us agree to if we have problems with our account your not allowed to get fixed. Thats what that rule would signify.
Thinking or assuming that a company will offer a service 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, without any errors or downtime....and if there is downtime....you will be reimbursed...... is absolutely ludacris.

Every MMORPG I've played (Ultima Online, EverQuest, SWG, Diablo2) have all had server problems and have scheduled and unscheduled downtime. However, there is no "reimbursement" (Well, D2 doesn't cost...obviosly) for the time you lost while the servers were down. It should simply be added to the user agreement for Graal to prevent future controversy over the entire issue.

Of course exceptions could be made if the game servers were down for...several days or a week or something.

However, your comments about people buying gold time for HOSTED is dumb, and that nobody would ever do that? I did.

I didn't buy my gold time to slay a few mobs on Kingdoms, I purchased mine so that I could work on Graal Kingdoms, and work/play on Hosted upcoming playerworlds being worked on by friends. So, you're wrong there. I do occasionally enjoy a vacation on Kingdoms, but that's not my primary reason for buying Gold time.
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Old 07-24-2004, 11:06 AM
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Old 07-24-2004, 02:10 PM
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And I have spent several dozen hours on GK the past few days, and I have seen you on there once and on tag not at all. That is not very fitting for an EM.
Which is a lie, and if it isnt, then you just don't look at the playerlist that much at all, or you haven't been on at certain times.

FYI, i go on quite a lot, for short periods of time. Maybe half an hour to an hour at a time, alternating between my normal alias of LegoBomb, and my zormite tag. Unless you have me on buddy for some reason, why the hell SHOULD you see me online? I don't notice half the other players on the playerlist when i'm on.

Furthermore, i've been ontag i think 4/5 days this week, if not all 5, advertising for the mayoral elections, sometimes several times in one day. You yourself responded to one of these on friday, although that was probably after you posted here. I also held a waterglass event on, uh, monday or tuesday or possibly sunday i think it is, before i started organising the elections. So don't you dare go implying that I'm not doing a good job, because I bloody well am.

Anyway, that's neither here nor there, this isnt what the thread's about -_-
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Old 07-24-2004, 07:10 PM
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If Lance noticed everytime I was online I would be impressed, I can't hardly expect him to notice when other players are on - on if by chance he looks and sees the name... I don't know, I think he stuck his foot into that one.
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Old 07-24-2004, 09:27 PM
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Which is a lie, and if it isnt, then you just don't look at the playerlist that much at all, or you haven't been on at certain times.

FYI, i go on quite a lot, for short periods of time. Maybe half an hour to an hour at a time, alternating between my normal alias of LegoBomb, and my zormite tag. Unless you have me on buddy for some reason, why the hell SHOULD you see me online? I don't notice half the other players on the playerlist when i'm on.

Furthermore, i've been ontag i think 4/5 days this week, if not all 5, advertising for the mayoral elections, sometimes several times in one day. You yourself responded to one of these on friday, although that was probably after you posted here. I also held a waterglass event on, uh, monday or tuesday or possibly sunday i think it is, before i started organising the elections. So don't you dare go implying that I'm not doing a good job, because I bloody well am.
You went on tag the one time while I was online. You held zero events. I'm not interested in your onlinetime - I'm interested in when you are on tag, doing your job. I noted when I saw you online, not when you were online - you are not on my buddy list. You needn't get worked up about such things. However, if you are on tag then I promise I will see you, for I make note of such things.

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If Lance noticed everytime I was online I would be impressed, I can't hardly expect him to notice when other players are on - on if by chance he looks and sees the name... I don't know, I think he stuck his foot into that one.
Hey, I saw you host that event the other day, no probalo.
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Old 07-24-2004, 09:31 PM
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Thinking or assuming that a company will offer a service 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, without any errors or downtime....and if there is downtime....you will be reimbursed...... is absolutely ludacris.
Nobody's thinking that they will, Curtis. However, it is not unreasonable to request compensation for a day of unscheduled downtime.

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Every MMORPG I've played (Ultima Online, EverQuest, SWG, Diablo2) have all had server problems and have scheduled and unscheduled downtime. However, there is no "reimbursement" (Well, D2 doesn't cost...obviosly) for the time you lost while the servers were down.
Well, I don't even have to point out the obvious - Graal is not "every MMORPG you've played." Why shouldn't Graal go the extra mile? Like I said, it would have been a nice gesture. From what I understand, though, it's a difficult one. So, there's a good chance it won't happen.

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It should simply be added to the user agreement for Graal to prevent future controversy over the entire issue.
Stefan and unixmad's decision.

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Of course exceptions could be made if the game servers were down for...several days or a week or something.
Where do you draw the line?

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I didn't buy my gold time to slay a few mobs on Kingdoms, I purchased mine so that I could work on Graal Kingdoms,
On Debug, you mean.

Personally, I don't see how "people bought gold access for X or Y or Z" really enters into this discussion, as it was a large part of the Graal network that was down...
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Old 07-25-2004, 12:49 AM
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You went on tag the one time while I was online. You held zero events. I'm not interested in your onlinetime - I'm interested in when you are on tag, doing your job. I noted when I saw you online, not when you were online - you are not on my buddy list. You needn't get worked up about such things. However, if you are on tag then I promise I will see you, for I make note of such things.
Well, you can either carry on being mr smug'n'superior, or you can read what i posted again.

I don't give a crap what you're interested in, because as far as i'm concerned you dont come close to being a normal/regular player, so my job doesn't concern you, and its not your job to be interested in my job, ok? And i'll get worked up if i want to; i don't want anybody trying to put the slightest mark on something i've worked very hard to get, and continue to work hard to keep.
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