Graal Free To Play on Facebook and Android - Page 4

Zeross · #1 03-21-2011, 01:43 AM

This is fantastic, grand movements and strategic advancements... all seems positive to me.

papajchris · #2 03-21-2011, 01:47 AM

I find it quite humorous that Unixmad expect PC players to purchase heads. You are going to lose a great deal of old players that way. I do think moving to facebook was a good idea though, and it's a shame it took you years to finally read a post from the forums and realize "hey maybe pay to play isn't working out!"

Supaman771 · #3 03-21-2011, 01:47 AM

Guess Event?
When was this.. o.O

Updates look promising, Graal is finally moving foward (aka ditching pc client for other things... again).
Dev tools and v6, can't wait for :3

Astram · #4 03-21-2011, 01:52 AM

Since Graal will be a facebook app, I have a questions...

Does the app have a list of servers for players to play on, and ANYONE can register their server on the "facebook client" to have it appear on facebook?

Can you use facebook credits to buy gralats?

Suggestions...

The iPhone VIP MemberShip, should include a user name and password for the player to log on to the facebook client using his current account, the VIP will get you a special hat, head, body, and a VIP area on the gmap. That should make the players happy.

I cant wait to see this!!!

Soala · #5 03-21-2011, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Astram

Can you use facebook credits to buy gralats?

Sounds quite logic to me.

MattKan · #6 03-21-2011, 01:59 AM

Suggestion: iPhone VIP Membership should be included with PC membership.

WaDaFack · #7 03-21-2011, 02:02 AM

Can't wait for the new Dev tools!

salesman · #8 03-21-2011, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

Yes it will be possible. The first step before thinking to go on iPhone/Android will be to switch to the new Free To Play rules we will introduce.

Also Mobile Phone are less powerful than PC so content need to be optimized. Stefan will introduce mobile phone development in the forthcoming weeks.

Will developers be able to get a fair share of the cash shop earnings?

Reese · #9 03-21-2011, 02:08 AM

Is there anyway to connect the two? So you can log on two different ways but still keep the way things are just pretty much adding a new log in way

DustyPorViva · #10 03-21-2011, 02:09 AM

New devs tools intrigues me A LOT. However, are they scripted in Graal or are they external like the old development tools?

Fulg0reSama · #11 03-21-2011, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

New devs tools intrigues me A LOT. However, are they scripted in Graal or are they external like the old development tools?

I'm curious to this as well.

Pimmeh · #12 03-21-2011, 02:15 AM

Hm, am I the only one who is kind of underwhelmed by the quality of updates from Unixmad? I feel like Eurocenter could at least use proper grammar.
No offense Unixmad, but Stefan seems to manage...

MattKan · #13 03-21-2011, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh

Hm, am I the only one who is kind of underwhelmed by the quality of updates from Unixmad? I feel like Eurocenter could at least use proper grammar.
No offense Unixmad, but Stefan seems to manage...

Since there are multiple "news", the first thread, well, it can be argued that it is actually correct.

Skyld · #14 03-21-2011, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh

Hm, am I the only one who is kind of underwhelmed by the quality of updates from Unixmad? I feel like Eurocenter could at least use proper grammar.
No offense Unixmad, but Stefan seems to manage...

The point of this thread is not to compare how people speak English; it is to announce new releases, so please stay on topic.

unixmad · #15 03-21-2011, 04:39 AM

Making announcement with bad grammar is part of the Graal tradition, isn't it? But feel free to correct me

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh

Hm, am I the only one who is kind of underwhelmed by the quality of updates from Unixmad? I feel like Eurocenter could at least use proper grammar.
No offense Unixmad, but Stefan seems to manage...

FrootyTooty · #16 03-21-2011, 03:40 AM

Looking foward to playing it.

MrOmega · #17 03-21-2011, 03:44 AM

Tad off-topic but relates to mobile and such and is quite a long shot, but is there any plans for a Blackberry based Graal?

Crono1508 · #18 03-21-2011, 03:47 AM

This just seems like a huge kick in the face to Graal PC client version. I've already played iPhone App version, and its not even comparable to the original Graal...

I don't like this change... I think PC Graal is finally going down the drain after this one.

Theodor · #19 03-21-2011, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono1508

This just seems like a huge kick in the face to Graal PC client version. I've already played iPhone App version, and its not even comparable to the original Graal...

I don't like this change... I think PC Graal is finally going down the drain after this one.

i think it's gonna be quite the other way around: the graal community will grow extremely, and alot of ppl will be trying out graal PC.

kia345 · #20 03-21-2011, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Theodor

i think it's gonna be quite the other way around: the graal community will grow extremely, and alot of ppl will be trying out graal PC.

How many competent developers and long term players are going to be enticed by a facebook app? Sure, it'll grow, but will it grow in desirable areas?

MattKan · #21 03-21-2011, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345

How many competent developers and long term players are going to be enticed by a facebook app? Sure, it'll grow, but will it grow in desirable areas?

Half the world plays farmville.

kia345 · #22 03-21-2011, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan

Half the world plays farmville.

If that a good thing for the part of Graal that isn't profiting off of them?

DustyPorViva · #23 03-21-2011, 04:41 AM

So ya, dev tools... can you elaborate? Is the level editor finally getting an update or is there just a new scripted level editor?

Googi · #24 03-21-2011, 05:26 AM

Will the web-based client only be available on Facebook? Or will people who aren't Facebook users be able to use it as well?

Conqueror · #25 03-21-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Will the web-based client only be available on Facebook? Or will people who aren't Facebook users be able to use it as well?

I think somewhere earlier in the thread it was mentioned that the goal is to eventually be able to play it right from the Graal website through a Flash player.

Unless you meant for the time being, then I have no clue.

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Originally Posted by nullify

Why the hell are the stupidest questions acknowledged?

I'd lol so hard if this question got answered.

Raspberry · #26 03-21-2011, 07:23 AM

Graal facebook i would of never guessed.

nullify · #27 03-21-2011, 07:34 AM

Why the hell are the stupidest questions acknowledged?

Enchanted Wolf XxX · #28 03-21-2011, 07:39 AM

Wow this is one hot ****ing thread. 10 pages in like 2 days.

Anyways, good job keeping 'Graal Classic/Era' mobile. Now people get to show their friends/families IRL the game called 'Graal' and explain how hard it is to pronounce it and how fail it is, but question why we constantly play it.

gg

Hiro · #29 03-21-2011, 08:48 AM

i can understand the move in platforms, but what i don't understand is why it's free. if it's possible to have some form of free graal classic on the web, is it also not possible to have free graal on the PC?

the focus seems to be heavily on phone (and now) web based graal (which is still technically the iphone servers), so is it feasibly possible at all to make PC graal as easily available to all players by making it free?

is the facebook graal going to stay free indefinitely?

my hopes are low of course

Tricxta · #30 03-21-2011, 08:54 AM

If theres money to be made it will happen. Should've observed that by now...

Demisis_P2P · #31 03-21-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiro

i can understand the move in platforms, but what i don't understand is why it's free. if it's possible to have some form of free graal classic on the web, is it also not possible to have free graal on the PC?

the focus seems to be heavily on phone (and now) web based graal (which is still technically the iphone servers), so is it feasibly possible at all to make PC graal as easily available to all players by making it free?

is the facebook graal going to stay free indefinitely?

my hopes are low of course

Go back and read the whole thread. Or even just all of unixmad's posts in the thread.

Hiro · #32 03-21-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Go back and read the whole thread. Or even just all of unixmad's posts in the thread.

i did. he mentions briefly that once servers have switched to the item-based model that the servers can be free to play. this is not what i'm asking for, is not what i asked about, and frankly your reply was unneeded

maybe you should reread the entire thread so you can understand the context of my post better

and just to emphasize the point even more - PC graal going to an item-based economy to generate revenue is not going to happen to the classic-style servers anytime soon, unless they make changing colors on bodies (for example) something you have to buy, which would be terrible. what i'm asking about is a completely free PC graal and whether or not it is a possibility at all, not a pseudo-free PC graal where i have to purchase gelats (or whatever the hell they're called now) in order to change shoe color

fowlplay4 · #33 03-21-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro

and just to emphasize the point even more - PC graal going to an item-based economy to generate revenue is not going to happen to the classic-style servers anytime soon, unless they make changing colors on bodies (for example) something you have to buy, which would be terrible. what i'm asking about is a completely free PC graal and whether or not it is a possibility at all, not a pseudo-free PC graal where i have to purchase gelats (or whatever the hell they're called now) in order to change shoe color

If they don't want to attempt to think outside the box then yeah they won't be able to introduce micro-transactions.

UN has a "hat economy" right? There's nothing stopping them from flooding their shop with a bunch of custom hats for say 25-50 Gelats a pop. I'm sure they can also provide a bunch of other aesthetic items as well.

The competence of the people running the server will decide whether it becomes Free-to-play or not. Not the limited options you say they'll have.

Shards-Of-Fate · #34 03-21-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

UN has a "hat economy" right? There's nothing stopping them from flooding their shop with a bunch of custom hats for say 25-50 Gelats a pop. I'm sure they can also provide a bunch of other aesthetic items as well..

Hats?

Zodiac being the closest to an MMO has like...One of the biggest cash shop arrays. Gear, Mounts, XP Items, Aesthetics~

o_o The question is--Are the rules/requirements for being a free to play server going to change?

devilsknite1 · #35 03-21-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro

and just to emphasize the point even more - PC graal going to an item-based economy to generate revenue is not going to happen to the classic-style servers anytime soon, unless they make changing colors on bodies (for example) something you have to buy, which would be terrible. what i'm asking about is a completely free PC graal and whether or not it is a possibility at all, not a pseudo-free PC graal where i have to purchase gelats (or whatever the hell they're called now) in order to change shoe color

This is not true. UN has many ideas for "gelat items" and are currently being developed. In fact, a few are already completed.
To FP4: we have more in mind than just flashy NPCs and hats

WaDaFack · #36 03-21-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by devilsknite1

This is not true. UN has many ideas for "gelat items" and are currently being developed. In fact, a few are already completed.
To FP4: we have more in mind than just flashy NPCs and hats

Before releasing useless NPCs, why not improve the quality of the server first? So when newcomers join the server, they'll stay and maybe consider purchasing an item or two. However, if the server is total crap, why in the hell would they spend another penny on the server? Hundreds of bugs in the UN forums were posted, and barely any of them were even fixed. In fact, wtf was even the point of creating that section? For a server that has existed for almost 10years, it lacks major quality. Reason probably being the lazy, arrogant staff/developers you guys have. But that's a different topic for another time. FP4 is right, we have "flashy"/abusive hats, and a hat trade. Which is also turning to complete crap since 5 hat tickets are given out every month.
Facebook is the biggest, and fastest growing social network on the web.
Adding Graal to Facebook has to be probably one of the best advancements Eurocenter has done with Graal so far. Other than that, any news on the new Developer tools?!

Hiro · #37 03-22-2011, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by devilsknite1

This is not true. UN has many ideas for "gelat items" and are currently being developed. In fact, a few are already completed.
To FP4: we have more in mind than just flashy NPCs and hats

i could care less about the stuff that has not been developed yet. if a "item's for UN" project is underway then i really hope you choose what you make delicately. player aesthetics and other such nonsense (which UN has a plethora of) would be fine so long as it doesn't force me to buy gelats for something i need in order to participate

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

If they don't want to attempt to think outside the box then yeah they won't be able to introduce micro-transactions.

UN has a "hat economy" right? There's nothing stopping them from flooding their shop with a bunch of custom hats for say 25-50 Gelats a pop. I'm sure they can also provide a bunch of other aesthetic items as well.

The competence of the people running the server will decide whether it becomes Free-to-play or not. Not the limited options you say they'll have.

the "hat economy" is pretty rigid, and it is unfortunately the only thing going for UN in terms of spending power. i know that there are plans for hats in the works, but not in terms of them being for the "item-shop" C mentioned. making hat's purchasable with gelats is a good idea, though it tramples on EP and the point of events (since it would mean we'd have to either make the gelat purchases very small or increase the amount of EP player's have to spend). if done with care, it could work out

but really, what else does UN really have going for it other than hats and a few annoying NPCs?

Geno · #38 03-21-2011, 09:26 AM

Geno is king of facebook. therefor; king of graal.

Jiroxys7 · #39 03-21-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

1) We are opening a Free To Play Facebook/Web version of Graal Classic and Graal Era.

But what about the bread?

dennis20014 · #40 03-21-2011, 09:29 AM

WOW. I never would of guessed Graal Facebook either.

Such an incredibly smart business move.

I hope iphone/android users least can play on the same server. May as well let FB users play on the same servers too. A huge majority of them are casual users anyway, I don't really see there being a huge advantage just because keyboard.

It's a different story for people who still play PC graal, since 99% are oldbies.