Windows v6 beta test

[alskdjfhg]

Post a pic, I wanna see this

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

V6 with OpenGL runs painfully slowly if I've had my computer running for several hours (6/7 +) beforehand, which kindof makes sense in a way but the slowdown is abnormal, other programs are running fine including V6 with DirectX.

Originally Posted by Skyld

Can you verify this with other OpenGL games? Does it just affect Graal?

It turns out that this problem is only occurring when I open the client while still using the shortcut method containing "-opengl" within the path. It's actually running fine when opening the client normally and using the F3 option to enable OpenGL.

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by alskdjfhg

Post a pic, I wanna see this

Correct.png = another player's client (left)
Incorrect.png = my client (right)

Yes, the colors on the correct.png do look awkward but that's because I set them using my own client- I did not mix up the images!

[Sky]

Always wondered why my graal v6 freezes when I start the task manager? I haven't looked through the thread to see if it was solved or posted before. The game just turns to a black screen and it seems the playerlist still works but the actual client does not.

[MattKan]

Usually when I play a different game with Graal minimized (e.g. Minecraft, Civilization, Age of Empires) if I come back to Graal the screen is completely blacked out. I can still hear sound, but I can't see anything. If I minimize and bring the screen back up it is still black. I'm forced to restart. FYI, at first I thought it had something to do with full screen mode on other games (Civilization, Age of Empires), but then it started happening with Minecraft which I don't play in full screen mode.

Another problem is the tray icon not displaying correctly (see attachment).

Originally Posted by ffcmike

Edit: Upon opening the client a 2nd time, this box hasn't appeared for me at all.

Same (attached)

[callimuc]

Originally Posted by Sky

Always wondered why my graal v6 freezes when I start the task manager? I haven't looked through the thread to see if it was solved or posted before. The game just turns to a black screen and it seems the playerlist still works but the actual client does not.

Originally Posted by MattKan

Usually when I play a different game with Graal minimized (e.g. Minecraft, Civilization, Age of Empires) if I come back to Graal the screen is completely blacked out. I can still hear sound, but I can't see anything. If I minimize and bring the screen back up it is still black. I'm forced to restart. FYI, at first I thought it had something to do with full screen mode on other games (Civilization, Age of Empires), but then it started happening with Minecraft which I don't play in full screen mode.

Another problem is the tray icon not displaying correctly (see attachment).

Just resize the Graal screen. Also happens to me but resizing seems to help.

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by callimuc

Just resize the Graal screen. Also happens to me but resizing seems to help.

Doesn't help me.

Also my graal icon in the tray menu is now invisible.

[Emera]

Don't know if anybody else is having this issue, but it's seriously starting to bug me. Whenever a GUI is created, it doesn't go where it should and ends up in random screen locations until it's refreshed for a second time. Image attached.

[Tricxta]

Nope, I think that's just you.

[Emera]

Originally Posted by Tricxta

Nope, I think that's just you.

I never had the issue on Ubuntu linux.

[ffcmike]

It seems as if no matter what server you log on, whether there are any scripted GUI controls or not, after opening the client for the first time GraalControl is unfocussed and you can't move until you click the screen, even happens when I attempt to force focus once everything has initialized.
This wouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of players, but in terms of someone logging on for the first time you never know, might not occur to them.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

It seems as if no matter what server you log on, whether there are any scripted GUI controls or not, GraalControl is unfocussed and you can't move until you click the screen, even happens when I attempt to force focus once everything has initialized.
This wouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of players, but in terms of someone logging on for the first time you never know, might not occur to them.

Maybe it's because of that intrusive download window that every Graal player instinctively closes as soon as it opens. Unless it's a tileset downloading that thing should never appear.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Maybe it's because of that intrusive download window that every Graal player instinctively closes as soon as it opens.

It's happening without this.

[Andre2006]

Did someone add the "Disable startup message" to V5 when trying to send a mass message? It is totally in the way of my writings ;[ (I know this has nothing to do with V6, but I couldn't find anywhere else to post it!)

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

It seems as if no matter what server you log on, whether there are any scripted GUI controls or not, after opening the client for the first time GraalControl is unfocussed and you can't move until you click the screen, even happens when I attempt to force focus once everything has initialized.
This wouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of players, but in terms of someone logging on for the first time you never know, might not occur to them.

I managed to fix this with a combination of using Chris Vimes solution:

Originally Posted by cbk1994

PHP Code:

function onFirstResponderChanges(temp.obj) {
  if (temp.obj.dontStealFocus) {
    this.lastResponder.makeFirstResponder(true);
  } else {
    this.lastResponder = temp.obj;
  }
} 


Then you could just set dontStealFocus on any GUI control and it wouldn't steal focus.

plus:

PHP Code:

ChatBar_ToggleTaskBarButton.dontstealfocus = true;
DownloadProgress_CloseButton.dontstealfocus = true; 


and then upon all systems initializing, manually setting focus to GraalControl or whatever object should have focus via:

PHP Code:

obj.makeFirstResponder(true); 


[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Andre2006

Did someone add the "Disable startup message" to V5 when trying to send a mass message? It is totally in the way of my writings ;[ (I know this has nothing to do with V6, but I couldn't find anywhere else to post it!)

This is a GK bug, not a v6 or v5 bug.

[Andre2006]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

This is a GK bug, not a v6 or v5 bug.

Oh okay!

[Emera]

Also reported by another member on the forums.
For some reason, when starting up graal, it will randomly forget the nickname, account and password, which is quite annoying for people who haven't memorized their password.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Emera

Also reported by another member on the forums.
For some reason, when starting up graal, it will randomly forget the nickname, account and password, which is quite annoying for people who haven't memorized their password.

Solution: memorize your password.

[Emera]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Solution: memorize your password.

You don't say...

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Solution: memorize your password.

A noble solution, but it's still somewhat of a bug. However, such information is saved to the Windows Registry. Are you sure it's related directly to Graal itself and not a third-party software preventing certain programs from writing to the registry, or possibly doing a regular registry search and delete cleanup process (EG: An Antivirus/Firewall/etc scanner doing a regular "clean up")? This isn't a typical issue to come across, so I would probably assume it to be a problem locally rather than with the client itself (or we'd all be having this problem).

[Andre2006]

Originally Posted by Emera

Also reported by another member on the forums.
For some reason, when starting up graal, it will randomly forget the nickname, account and password, which is quite annoying for people who haven't memorized their password.

This only happens to me if I have disabled my firewall, to prioritise programs like Hamachi or Tunngle to play games online that usually don't find servers through the normal network.

[Emera]

Originally Posted by Andre2006

This only happens to me if I have disabled my firewall, to prioritise programs like Hamachi or Tunngle to play games online that usually don't find servers through the normal network.

I've disabled mine after what you just said. It hasn't happened to me at all since then, and it normally has a 7/10 chance of doing it when I restart graal. Thank you <3

[Andre2006]

Originally Posted by Emera

I've disabled mine after what you just said. It hasn't happened to me at all since then, and it normally has a 7/10 chance of doing it when I restart graal. Thank you <3

Having your firewall disabled is not very smart! ;P

[cbk1994]

Graal has forgot passwords from time to time (on both Graal and RC) for as long as I can remember. Never had it forget my account or nick, though.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Emera

Also reported by another member on the forums.
For some reason, when starting up graal, it will randomly forget the nickname, account and password, which is quite annoying for people who haven't memorized their password.

If you run an older version of Graal(like say, Graal 1.4) it uses a different encryption for passwords in the registry, but still stores it in the same registry value as the new versions. So it pretty much overwrites the registry for your saved password with a version that the current Graal doesn't decrypt, thus you lose your password.

[Emera]

Originally Posted by Andre2006

Having your firewall disabled is not very smart! ;P

It's not permanently disabled. Only when logging in to Graal <3

[ffcmike]

The word "Admins" on the playerlist should really be changed to "Staff".

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

The word "Admins" on the playerlist should really be changed to "Staff".

I agree with this, but I'd love to see it go even further. Perhaps at the bottom of the list, out of the way, (or even within the "Staff" list itself, although that may put RC's higher on the list than they need to be), all RC's should be grouped as "Non-Client Staff" or something to that effect.

It's no secret people are getting more ignorant to the point that what wasn't an issue 5 years ago is an issue today whereby you seemingly have to be on tag for people to realise you're staff, completely ignoring the fact that your RC is active. We need it to be easier for players to differentiate playerlist population that can help them from those that are just other players.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

I agree with this, but I'd love to see it go even further. Perhaps at the bottom of the list, out of the way, (or even within the "Staff" list itself, although that may put RC's higher on the list than they need to be), all RC's should be grouped as "Non-Client Staff" or something to that effect.

It's no secret people are getting more ignorant to the point that what wasn't an issue 5 years ago is an issue today whereby you seemingly have to be on tag for people to realise you're staff, completely ignoring the fact that your RC is active. We need it to be easier for players to differentiate playerlist population that can help them from those that are just other players.

I'd love if RCs were only listed in the playerlist if they are on tag. Otherwise, not at all. That'd be great.

[MattKan]

Now my Graal sound has stopped working and it's not even showing up in the volume mixer o_o

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by MattKan

Now my Graal sound has stopped working and it's not even showing up in the volume mixer o_o

Try renaming your Graal6.exe to something else. Do you experience any other issues with your computer outside of Graal?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

It's no secret people are getting more ignorant to the point that what wasn't an issue 5 years ago is an issue today whereby you seemingly have to be on tag for people to realise you're staff, completely ignoring the fact that your RC is active. We need it to be easier for players to differentiate playerlist population that can help them from those that are just other players.

I disagree. I've been staff on plenty of servers, and players have never had trouble finding me when I was on RC. It helps on Era that RCs are given a special head that can't be used by players.

Graal needs a better support infrastructure, though. A lot of the problems with staff communication arise because players are using PMs instead of something like a support center. Era's is an example of a very effective one which helps a lot of players with complicated issues. I would like to see one on all servers, though.

[Admins]

There will be a new release in a few days which will improve some stuff.

[Emera]

Originally Posted by Stefan

There will be a new release in a few days which will improve some stuff.

Sounds good <3

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Stefan

There will be a new release in a few days which will improve some stuff.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Still experiencing the issues with GuiScrollCtrl's and Highlighting.

When the mouse leaves the boundaries of an external window it no longer keeps track of the state (which buttons held down) or location of the mouse.

If you want people to be happy with Graal Client-based tools you really need to fix these issues.

The issues in my post here are still present in the current client:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...postcount=1207

Is the above fixed in your latest version?

[Admins]

Well it's fine in the Mac version, but I can also check in the Windows version.

[Tigairius]

Not sure if someone else has posted this yet or not, but I can't seem to draw fonts larger than size ~48. According to cbk1994, this is only a bug on Windows.

For example:

PHP Code:

new GuiTextCtrl("test_text") {
  profile = GuiBlueTextProfile;
  useownprofile = true;
  profile.fontSize = 72;
  text = "Hello";
  x = screenwidth / 2;
  y = screenheight / 2;
} 


will draw the exact same size as:

PHP Code:

new GuiTextCtrl("test_text") {
  profile = GuiBlueTextProfile;
  useownprofile = true;
  profile.fontSize = 48;
  text = "Hello";
  x = screenwidth / 2;
  y = screenheight / 2;
} 


[MattKan]

In the playerlist, the player's current level doesn't update - it just stays constant at wherever they logged into.

[Admins]

The size of bitmap fonts is limited to 48 pixels (was 30 before), and polygon fonts are disabled in the Windows version right now, but can check sometime to enable it again.