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Old 07-15-2009, 08:23 PM
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(Of course, they do get a paycheck. But once again, this is volunteer work. If you can't handle not getting some sort of tangible reward for your work, leave.) It tampers with the gameplay experience of everyone on the game.
You really think my house is tampering with the gameplay of everyone on this server? Personally, I didn't think it was a problem at all, especially since 75 percent of the server doesn't even know I have a house.

There really are no benefits for my friends, unless they want to idle in some quiet level. My brother stores his items at Ammo Mart, Zoo does not use his room, and Jacob does not even play anymore from what I understand.

Spawning items, selling staff items, siding with friends in situations such as scams, and other similar activities can affect the gameplay, but you may notice, unlike former staff teams, we have very little corruption, and none of this happens.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:31 PM
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You really think my house is tampering with the gameplay of everyone on this server? Personally, I didn't think it was a problem at all, especially since 75 percent of the server doesn't even know I have a house.

There really are no benefits for my friends, unless they want to idle in some quiet level. My brother stores his items at Ammo Mart, Zoo does not use his room, and Jacob does not even play anymore from what I understand.

Spawning items, selling staff items, siding with friends in situations such as scams, and other similar activities can affect the gameplay, but you may notice, unlike former staff teams, we have very little corruption, and none of this happens.
I always wanted to go in your Garage House. Even if that question caused me to worry about "Nothing" that day....
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:49 PM
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I always wanted to go in your Garage House. Even if that question caused me to worry about "Nothing" that day....
I take back what I said about the quiet levels, all my house levels loop Billie Jean. I think it scares off everyone.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:51 PM
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I take back what I said about the quiet levels, all my house levels loop Billie Jean. I think it scares off everyone.
Meh, whats weird is, I literally was just humming the beat before I read this post.
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:33 PM
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You really think my house is tampering with the gameplay of everyone on this server? Personally, I didn't think it was a problem at all, especially since 75 percent of the server doesn't even know I have a house.
That last post was more direct towards Amsel and his defense of staff houses in general, not just yours. The ones I've encountered in the past have always been filled with special scripts, massive storages, grab hats, the works. All for their friends. Hell, I remember someone telling me they had an NPC (not item) spawner in their room in Amsel's house.

However, that being said...

/garage.
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:41 PM
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Dude, Amsel's house was a Grass Mansion wasen't it? Yeah, I remember when I was in there. I also remember War Head's house filled with grab hats and these other things. He went AFK, and there was a hallway with tables on the side filled with staff items. There was a Sythe right there, waiting for me to take it. But I didn't. This was a very long time ago.

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Old 07-15-2009, 09:57 PM
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Keep in mind that developers and staff in general only get compensated for their work on a server by getting bragging rights on being staff and having rc/rights etc, and for devs, the satisfaction of people using and enjoying your content.

Considering the declining value and excitement of having those bragging rights(after being staff on classic for some god awful amount of years, i can tell you personally, bragging about being staff is worthless at that point) and the declining players to enjoy your content since 2001-2002. I wouldn't complain if a dedicated developer who has contributed alot would get a free house or even currency for their work.

While you were taking the time earning money etc from jobs, those developers were taking their time developing those jobs you do and the content you pay for with the currency you earn instead.
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:07 PM
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Keep in mind that developers and staff in general only get compensated for their work on a server by getting bragging rights on being staff and having rc/rights etc, and for devs, the satisfaction of people using and enjoying your content.

Considering the declining value and excitement of having those bragging rights(after being staff on classic for some god awful amount of years, i can tell you personally, bragging about being staff is worthless at that point) and the declining players to enjoy your content since 2001-2002.
It's quite simple: It's time for you to move on, then.

Yes, I realize there's a high burnout level for any kind of volunteer work. But if you're dev'ing for the right reasons, you'll always have a drive to dev. There's always something to improve, something new to create. Let's face it, Graal probably just isn't doing it for you anymore. Go to a different project, but don't try to get bribes from servers so you'll still do good work.
If you're joining for free items and bragging rights, you're not joining for the right reasons at all. How about instead you just quit, and go get your in-game items legitimately like all the other players? If you're sitting there actually envying the players doing simple jobs like fishing, flower picking, etc. to get useless virtual cash in a game, then perhaps mindless grinding is more your style of work, rather than a creative field.
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:09 PM
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The claims in this thread are very exaggerated. There's only one or two staff members who have a house that they created themselves, and even then, it's more of a test-level than a "house". However, I will have them remove their friends' access.

If you have a complaint about a staff member, send me a forum PM or contact me in-game and it will be dealt with. My staff should be spending their time worrying about improving YOUR gameplay experience instead of constantly defending themselves from unsubstantiated complaints.

Again, if you would like to report abuse, corruption, or any other staff-related problems, send me a forum PM or contact me in-game.

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