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Old 11-18-2008, 12:11 AM
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Propositon to Stop Base Laming

If you will go after any base and don't lame post here
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:14 AM
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:23 AM
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You will go after bases instead of lamming to get people not to lame
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:43 AM
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:50 AM
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This is what Pheet is trying to say...

New players learn from our actions, they learn how to play the game based on what we do. So if they see us doing nothing but standing at enemy HQs laming players, they'll do that because they assume thats how you play the game.

While your playing Iricia, do some of the following
-Send team messages (blue text message) giving orders on bases to capture
-Capture bases of your own continueously

If a bunch of people do this, it will eventually let us play Iricia the way it was intended. There will always be a few base lamers, but entire teams standing as bases for 20 minutes streight is just silly...
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:01 AM
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This is what Pheet is trying to say...

New players learn from our actions, they learn how to play the game based on what we do. So if they see us doing nothing but standing at enemy HQs laming players, they'll do that because they assume thats how you play the game.

While your playing Iricia, do some of the following
-Send team messages (blue text message) giving orders on bases to capture
-Capture bases of your own continueously

If a bunch of people do this, it will eventually let us play Iricia the way it was intended. There will always be a few base lamers, but entire teams standing as bases for 20 minutes streight is just silly...
...But we know perfectly well that wouldn't work.

The only way you could get people to change their way of playing, which they have adapted to for so long, would be to FORCE change on them by making it impossible to lame the enemy base.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:03 AM
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...But we know perfectly well that wouldn't work.
With attitudes like that, no. Your choice, I guess you like base laming, not gaining experience or playing a map to its full potential.
^This answer goes for all Negative Nancys ;P
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:59 AM
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With attitudes like that, no. Your choice, I guess you like base laming, not gaining experience or playing a map to its full potential.
^This answer goes for all Negative Nancys ;P
The point I'm making is that "talk" doesn't fix things. Action fixes things. Can't you communicate with other staff members to see what you can do about this? As far as I know, the most direct path to the solution is the most promising. I believe Dante would be able to help in some way, as he's already tried to accomplish such a thing.

In the many threads that have come and gone, the same problem keeps coming up- there's not enough players. Not enough players being on the server constantly means that there'll be times where people are forced to spawn camp, due to players not coming back to fight as swiftly as the opposing team prefers, or they won't play at all. I think we're pretty lucky that some people are still playing and we haven't taken away their only means of entertainment by now, even if it annoys others. It helps in the long run, basically. Restating my point, the only way you're going to not have people linger around their spawn points is if there are more people playing on the server- mainly Iricia.

If you don't like spawn camping, or being camped for that matter, you can just go to another planet, right? Whoa, wait a second... I just went on platform, and Darkness is getting spawn camped! How about that. And how about Zone Wars? Same deal, I'm seeing there; obviously, that planet was made for spawn camping, as the power generators are placed RIGHT in the teams' respective spawn locations. KoTH? Yeah: Why defend a four sided hill when you can keep the enemy pinned down in their own base while you gain points over time? I could go on for awhile, trust me, but I recognize that Alpha (Alpha/Spar, but I'm not talking about the Spar area) doesn't have this problem. What's this mean? Well, we can take what we did on that planet, learn from it, and put it to use on other planets!

Now, don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying all planets need to be like Alpha's design; I'm just saying that we can solve this problem with common sense and recycling the resources we already have. A shiney new system isn't necessary at all. Might be nice, but it's not needed. We've got what we need already; all it needs is some modifications and willing people to put the plan into motion.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:12 AM
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The point I'm making is that "talk" doesn't fix things. Action fixes things.
How is everyone taking bases talking?

I did it myself the other day, focused on taking bases and encouraging players to do the same with team chat. People were protecting bases, going for new ones, ect. No one really spawn lamed :S.

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Not enough players being on the server constantly means that there'll be times where people are forced to spawn camp, due to players not coming back to fight as swiftly as the opposing team prefers, or they won't play at all.
Yes but we have more players now... Zones playercount has been going up lately.

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Well, we can take what we did on that planet, learn from it, and put it to use on other planets!
True, but what does this have to do with fixing Iricia?

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We've got what we need already; all it needs is some modifications and willing people to put the plan into motion.
Correct, we don't need anything, other then willing people who would discourage others from base laming is all we need ;P.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:39 AM
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Not enough players being on the server constantly means that there'll be times where people are forced to spawn camp, due to players not coming back to fight as swiftly as the opposing team prefers, or they won't play at all.
Have to agree here, today the player count was about, on average, about 25. There is no one at bases and I'm forced to spawn camp. Although, that is what i prefer to do anyway.

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Correct, we don't need anything, other then willing people who would discourage others from base laming is all we need ;P.
There will always be people that won't focus on taking bases and personally i don't really see how you can change it. There has always been base laming but today's laming is just more extreme.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:18 AM
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capturing bases is sooo fun...
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:28 AM
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When theres people there to defend them, it is. Which is the overal outcome we're trying to achieve.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:46 AM
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The B1 action was great, let's just force our team mates to go there, enemies won't have much choice than to come to us for kills. Unless we change the wanted base, or stick with get all the bases.
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:15 AM
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:45 AM
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This may seem out of place, but I believe that fixing Iricia is killing Iricia.
The reason Iricia is liked so well, is because of its design and base laming. The design only makes it easier to base lame. To fix Iricia would be, in essence, to kill Iricia and destroy what makes Iricia so fun to so many people (Base laming)
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:38 AM
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I am going to take base 3 and 4.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:04 PM
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:30 PM
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:58 PM
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Wasn't this guy an FAQ or something? Or is my imagination playing tricks on me again?
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:19 AM
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Uh, easy solution...
Create a timer, if someone is inside a base for more than 10 minutes, it automatically warps them to the door of the complex if they are constantly getting kills in the bunker.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:00 PM
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home base should have some sort of defence system.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:12 PM
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:22 PM
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i dunno, barracades, auto turrets, stuff like that.
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:21 PM
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Anyone remember that Star Wars group or something? It was a bunch of trials who focussed their gameplay style on strategy and teamwork, they were highly efficient; or for the Zone players of today, they were extremely lame.
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:33 PM
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Anyone remember that Star Wars group or something? It was a bunch of trials who focussed their gameplay style on strategy and teamwork, they were highly efficient; or for the Zone players of today, they were extremely lame.
Yeah, that Jedi Order guild or whatever?
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:35 PM
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Yeah, that Jedi Order guild or whatever?
i think milky was in that :P
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:04 PM
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We should just make base lamming against the rules.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:45 PM
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We should just make base lamming against the rules.
LMAO. base laming illegal? u mean this. xD

ur idea... sux.
it is not possible to do.


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Old 11-20-2008, 11:22 PM
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LMAO. base laming illegal? u mean this. xD

ur idea... sux.
it is not possible to do.


I have no idea what base laming is, but your post makes me thing we should really make it against the rules!
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:18 PM
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We should just make base lamming against the rules.
yeh cuz dat wil work
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:13 PM
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yeh cuz dat wil work
Everyone but Jesse and Pheet would be locked.

Oh, and Crono.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:11 PM
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Everyone but Jesse and Pheet would be locked.

Oh, and Crono.


:0 omg!


pico if my idea is stubid then how come you don't think of anything???????????????????????????????
It would be better, but you still want to lame.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:35 PM
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:15 PM
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Just ban everyone in this thread with a >03 regdate
That's practically the entirety of Zone's playerbase gone then
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That's practically the entirety of Zone's playerbase gone then
I wanted to do a single-emoticon reply here but I could not decide on an emoticon.
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Old 11-20-2008, 11:29 PM
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:54 AM
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Everyone but Jesse and Pheet would be locked.

Oh, and Crono.
1. No actually, those who aren't base laming nubs wouldn't be.
2. Whos to say if a rule was implimented, a lock would be the punishment?
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:06 AM
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2. Whos to say if a rule was implimented, a lock would be the punishment?
If you actually start handing out jail/bans for base laming, then the Zone development team fails to find a way to fix this.

If its just a kick, good luck kicking twenty plus people who keep coming back.
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