Forum driving license - Page 3

Tom · #1 10-09-2006, 05:11 PM

Can it not be called " Forum Strike List" or "Forum License" and cut out the driving part. As the driving part makes no sense xD

Twinny · #2 10-09-2006, 05:12 PM

Just an analogy.

Darlene159 · #3 10-09-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Can it not be called " Forum Strike List" or "Forum License" and cut out the driving part. As the driving part makes no sense xD

It was just for fun.
Much like when you get tickets or whatever, you get points on your drivers license that last for a certain amount of time, and when you get so many points, your license is suspended, or taken away. I think it fits.

Crono · #4 10-09-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

It was just for fun.
Much like when you get tickets or whatever, you get points on your drivers license that last for a certain amount of time, and when you get so many points, your license is suspended, or taken away. I think it fits.

Well IRL the cops aren't watching 24/7...so we CAN get away with things. Here it's impossible, big brother and sister are watching.

Twinny · #5 10-09-2006, 05:17 PM

They act within reason I just wish to know the extent in which the users of the forums have a say in the decisions made against us.

Darlene159 · #6 10-09-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny

They act within reason I just wish to know the extent in which the users of the forums have a say in the decisions made against us.

They can always question it, if they don't understand it, or agree with it. If we think it was unfair, it can be reversed. If we deem it was fair, it will remain.
This can be done by forum PM. If the person is banned, they can use email or the support center (prefered).

Darlene159 · #7 10-09-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Well IRL the cops aren't watching 24/7...so we CAN get away with things. Here it's impossible, big brother and sister are watching.

IRL, I wouldn't want to be always watching over my shoulder because I am worried about getting caught for breaking the law.

Don't break the law=no worries
Don't break the rules=no worries

Devil · #8 10-09-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Well IRL the cops aren't watching 24/7...so we CAN get away with things. Here it's impossible, big brother and sister are watching.

Aww man, this isn't in real life. This is a moderated game. Don't mix the 2 up and think because you get away with things in REAL life, that it works the same in a game

excaliber7388 · #9 10-09-2006, 05:13 PM

It's a lot more fustrating when you're trying to post.

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This message has been deleted by unixmad.

And I suppose you can't ask questions that are important to implementation new features either.

Devil · #10 10-09-2006, 05:14 PM

Dude, your message was deleted in regards to trying to call me out, or it was not proper for this topic in regards to myself.

Devil · #11 10-09-2006, 05:24 PM

How hard is it to follow some EASY rules...

Devil · #12 10-09-2006, 05:33 PM

Twinny that rule has been in place for ages, and the only people who seem to break it are new members to the forums, who _DONT_ read the rules.

Tom · #13 10-09-2006, 05:39 PM

I've never read the rules but at the same time ive never gotten warned or banned or anything like that.

Sometimes its just general manners.

Crono · #14 10-09-2006, 07:23 PM

Remember guys, if you call someone a suck up it's a personal attack! No lie!

WanDaMan · #15 10-09-2006, 07:39 PM

I haven't read any posts other than the one created by the thread starter. Anyway, Enforce the rules - this feature is pathetic.

MysticX2X · #16 10-09-2006, 07:41 PM

They still do enforce the rules, who do you think decides that we lost a point?

WanDaMan · #17 10-09-2006, 07:45 PM

If they enforced the rules upon us they obviously wouldn't of implemented this new system - I hope.

Damix2 · #18 10-09-2006, 08:25 PM

Really do we spend more time figuring out ways to punish us then developing the game?

WanDaMan · #19 10-09-2006, 08:43 PM

Cool, I just got mine through the post1!

Infernix · #20 10-09-2006, 08:57 PM

Whatever, Ill just continue goin with the flow and doing whatever.

Bl0nkt · #21 10-09-2006, 09:13 PM

Listen up. I break rules on games because it doesn't have a serious impact on what I do in real life. If I wanted a place to be paranoid about getting in trouble I'd go outside. When I feel like getting something off my back I do it here. Don't take that away too you selfish ****ers. End of story.

CidNight1142 · #22 10-09-2006, 09:21 PM

This is getting more than a little ridiculous. As if the forums didn't have stringent enough policies already? I've never heard of a non-free forum having so many damned bannings. I swear to god, I'm starting to think you guys want to be broke.

Mykel · #23 10-09-2006, 09:32 PM

What an absolutely horrible idea. The people complain about the moderation being too strict, so you make the rules even more strict? I guess the customer isn't always right, eh Unix?

The problem with these rules is that they are up to interpretation of mods who a majority of users don't think properly understand them. This mis-interpretation and misunderstanding that is no doubt going to happen will make for even bigger problems.

Are you insane? 3 spam posts and you're banned for a week?

Unix, I understand that you have a game to run and a profit to make, but you do realize that alienating a large amount of your forum userbase is only going to do the opposite, right?

Tyhm · #24 10-09-2006, 09:43 PM

Remember when we had vital stats on the left? It was some PHP Hack, I forget what the deal was really...but hey, if they can hack it for that, they can hack it for this right? I'd be cool with that.
GRAAL DRIVER LICENSE
LIC#Nonsense Code
[NAME] [Avatar Here]
[Location]
[Title]
Issue Date: [join date]

Points: ***

A cool way to keep track, and do something with the Left Side

kuhujiowa · #25 10-09-2006, 09:46 PM

The problem isn't the rules, it's that you can't seem to follow them. You whine and cry after someone has a problem with the way you're acting.
They wouldn't need something to strict if things never got out of hand.

Yes, this is only a forum, but it's also GraalOnline's official forum. The people that think graal would easily fail without them should really learn to look further then their own nose. The way you act now is what keeps a nicer population from Graal. The way you treat fellow players both in game and on the forum shows these new comers that this game isn't friendly at all.
They visit the forums for the first time and see a little kid swearing his head off and bashing another player. Yes these things can be deleted, but what if they weren't deleted in time. A new, mature, and friendly player could have seen that and decided the game wasn't for them. It's the way you act that is keeping GraalOnline down. This new system is so that the crap that should be deleted, never happens at all. This isn't limited to just players either, i've seen just as much from a few nameless globals as well.

Skyld · #26 10-09-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm

Remember when we had vital stats on the left? It was some PHP Hack, I forget what the deal was really...but hey, if they can hack it for that, they can hack it for this right? I'd be cool with that.
GRAAL DRIVER LICENSE
LIC#Nonsense Code
[NAME] [Avatar Here]
[Location]
[Title]
Issue Date: [join date]

Points: ***

A cool way to keep track, and do something with the Left Side

Except not all forum users have that layout selected. I for one have Author on Top selected, and that would make it very crowded.

Chris · #27 10-09-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

Except not all forum users have that layout selected. I for one have Author on Top selected, and that would make it very crowded.

Well you better conform!

konidias · #28 10-09-2006, 09:53 PM

I can... for once... say that I don't mind.

I rarely get in a tangle with the mods or admins here, and it's not really THAT hard to follow the rules and still make decent posts... If you make an honest mistake and get punished for it, I'm sure if you contacted the person who punished you, you could reason with them politely. Not "OMG U #%)@#%$@# U DELETED MY POST AND GAVE ME A STRIKE CUZ I SPAMED ONE TIME!?!"

I might not like a lot of things about how these forums are run... but I like the fact that they don't allow people to insult other people or try and ruin them or embarass them or spit at them. I'd also prefer to see less spam and more posts that have a purpose and are more than 4 words long.

Pretty much 90% of my posts are lengthy and on-topic. I don't see what is so hard about it. Without some of these rules the forums would be not only chaotic but idiotic as well. All you'd see is threads about "so and so SUCKS!" and then a bunch of replies like "shut up!" "no u!" "lol" "spam!!!!" "ur stupid!"

It would be like AIM chats. If you've never had the pleasure of one, I recommend it. Then when you've sat in an AIM chat for about 10 minutes, log out and think about what it would be like if the forums were like that. Then be glad that we have rules here.

So sometimes (okay maybe more often than not) there are some overly strict mods/admins... But if you don't try to push them all the time then I don't see the problem. I do, however, think it would be better for mods to not delete posts but instead leave them there and punish the person publically so that other people know what not to do. Instead of deleting entire threads or tons of replies in a thread with the reason of "spam" or "don't post that" or "stay on topic" or anything stupid like that.

xAndrewx · #29 10-09-2006, 09:53 PM

Wow I don't like this :[

Skyld · #30 10-09-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Wow I don't like this :[

You don't like most things.

Why specificallly do you oppose this? It makes it easier for mods to deal with unruly users. If you are a sensible user, you have no reason to oppose this whatsoever.

CidNight1142 · #31 10-09-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

You don't like most things.

Why specificallly do you oppose this? It makes it easier for mods to deal with unruly users. If you are a sensible user, you have no reason to oppose this whatsoever.

This is the reason, I believe, that this rule worries alot of the forum user base:

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Originally Posted by unixmad

Custom infraction can be given: number of points will be decided by the moderator.

I personally have never received an infraction or a warning, and only have had only a small handful of posts deleted for any reason whatsoever. So frankly, all those other infraction possibilities give me no fear at all. However, this one rule here basically states: Sam and Moonie are infallible. If they dislike you or you discuss something that they decide makes them unhappy -- whether or not it is truly breaking any rule on the books at all, it will be suppressed and you will disappear without any questions asked and with no particular check or balance to go to. This is unreasonable in my opinion.

xAndrewx · #32 10-09-2006, 09:59 PM

I don't see anything wrong now. If anything the mod's are too lenient, why not remove the truble maker's instead of making something which is...pointless.

Skyld · #33 10-09-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I don't see anything wrong without this system being inplemented. If anything the mod's are too lenient, why not remove the truble maker's instead of making something which is...pointless.

I think you should read the thread and see how this makes it easier for the moderators to deal with unruly users. Infractions actually mean something now.

Googi · #34 10-09-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

unruly users

Like me and Damix, right?

konidias · #35 10-09-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Like me and Damix, right?

We'll be seeing you a few hours a week most likely.

xAndrewx · #36 10-09-2006, 10:01 PM

Once again, I think it's pointless and that moderator's should just put their foot down.

Skyld · #37 10-09-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Once again, I think it's pointless and that moderator's should just put their foot down.

Not all moderators (in fact, most moderators) cannot remove people from the forums.
A number of infraction points actually makes it possible for repeated moderator actions to result in forum bans.

Two reasons why this system is good for the moderation team.

xAndrewx · #38 10-09-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

Not all moderators (in fact, most moderators) cannot remove people from the forums.
A number of infraction points actually makes it possible for repeated moderator actions to result in forum bans.

Two reasons why this system is good for the moderation team.

Hey if the moderator's agree with it, so be it. I just find it pointless. I'm not a moderator, so I don't really have a say in it. Nor do the non-moderator's in this forum.

Skyld · #39 10-09-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Hey if the moderator's agree with it, so be it. I just find it pointless. I'm not a moderator, so I don't really have a say in it. Nor do the non-moderator's in this forum.

The thread isn't really a way for the forum users to have a say; it's so that users are aware of changes.

pooper200000 · #40 10-09-2006, 11:03 PM

How do you see your drivers license thing?