Improvements suggested for Sparring planet.

[MisterMastermind]

Pipes and bombs are easiest to kill close range, they have to have a perfect hit close range to do 1-hit kill, but pipes have a 0.25-0.5 second delay, and in the time slot they're completely vulnerable... Just go close and hope to hell you don't have to reload...

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by icemaster

i strongly agree with not removin bombs

lol taht is st00pid cuz liek rr n taht r just noormel wepons, pipes n stuf r overpoewred 4 spars...

[someonesomewhere]

If you find it hard to kill someone who is pipe bomb-laming in the spar arena, you nee to have your brain examined, have surgery, and then try again. As long as you don't get hit by the initial throws when you are warped into the room, you're fine. And I know that this doesn't only work for me, ask Snoro, who loves to pipe-lame in the spar arena. I've killed him 2 out of 3 times when he was pipe laming, and the time I died was because I accidentally entered the wrong spar queue.

[Zulu15]

Bombs should stay, as Touya is trying to say, they are a weapon, I know all of you Zone players hate explosions, for what reason I do not know, but consider all the downsides of using bombs plxx

1)They cannot hit at long range and they have horrible accuracy in medium range.
2)They have a somewhat large freeze time.

This last one is the downside I consider most important...

3)You have a limited number of them, of wich afterwards you must -BUY- (Money needed), now unless the guy that is pipe "laming" in the spar plannet, was winning quite a few Death matches, he could not have aforded so many pipes, on wich example, he/she did go through trouble to obtain said Explosive device.

[Dante55555]

Bombs are freaking crazy for destroying those noob ass lamers in side your daily dunker but in spar they just annoying. I dont think they should go cause i like a challange im just saying there annoying xD and somone plz fix the door thing i keep accsidently exiting the spar areana just before i win its agrevating

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Zulu15

Bombs should stay, as Touya is trying to say, they are a weapon, I know all of you Zone players hate explosions, for what reason I do not know, but consider all the downsides of using bombs plxx

1)They cannot hit at long range and they have horrible accuracy in medium range.
2)They have a somewhat large freeze time.

This last one is the downside I consider most important...

3)You have a limited number of them, of wich afterwards you must -BUY- (Money needed), now unless the guy that is pipe "laming" in the spar plannet, was winning quite a few Death matches, he could not have aforded so many pipes, on wich example, he/she did go through trouble to obtain said Explosive device.

Back to the last civilized post before monkeys invaded this topic... Bombs are a weapon, over-powered in my opinion but they are without a doubt a weapon that takes skill to spar with...

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Bombs are a weapon, over-powered in my opinion but they are without a doubt a weapon that takes skill to spar with...

They take no skill at all. Well, besides throwing them in the general direction of the enemy.

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

They take no skill at all. Well, besides throwing them in the general direction of the enemy.

actually they do, with the freeze time after throwing, its fairly easy for the opponent to dodge, once he/she dodges they then have the chance to attack you

once you dodge a bomb its fairly easy to kill the opponent

when using bombs you really need precise accuracy, hence skill

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by icemaster

actually they do, with the freeze time after throwing, its fairly easy for the opponent to dodge, once he/she dodges they then have the chance to attack you

once you dodge a bomb its fairly easy to kill the opponent

when using bombs you really need precise accuracy, hence skill

No you don't. Pipebombs burst into smaller bombs. Creating a larger damage range. The freeze time is no large problem, if you hit the person that is. Even if you don't hit the opponent then the opponent has to make a recovery from dodging the last blast by watching out for the extra shells. Giving time for the user to throw another bomb.

[someonesomewhere]

I respect Dark's opinion, but I tell you, it takes a great amount of skill to throw it in someone's general direction if they are moving in circles around you with the speed of a commando. It also helps if you don't lag, either.
But he's right about everything else; the freeze time and the recovery time, I mean. It is simply easy to at least not take damage from someone by making them back off. And pipebombs probably have one of the most random damage bases in the history of mankind; If the initial blast misses, you can still take 70+ damage easy from getting bounced off of the explosions >.<

[Zulu15]

Yous ay that if you throw the pipes at theenemy andyou miss, they still have to dodge the other small shells, well, remember that grenades have to travel a certain distance before they explode so you can just get a little further away, and also remember that the smaller pipes need a little time to blow up as well.

[checkmyparanoia]

lol at the many deleted posts.
warp to blue then 5 seconds is best. pipes might be "overpowered" but thats not the purpose of this topic. the problem is that pipes, and many other weapons can autospawnkill (or at least get in QUITE a few hits, ie chaingun/bluerifle/redrifle/smg) in the spar arenas. now, personally i think you're a ******* if you enter when someone is spawnkilling.. but it is annoying to see their ratings go up because someone is stupid enough to think they can handle getting shot when walking through the door.

on another improvement:
i think it'd be great to have different arenas sorted by ranking.. because now someone with 2500 can fight over and over against 1400 people.. and because of the huge skill difference they can win everytime. and get rating everytime. while they get small amounts of rating, it is still, in my opinion, too possible to "outclass" the others at the arena. i say several different rooms organized by rating, and 1 unrated room (any can play.).

in other words, each room will have a spar rating range of a few hundred.. so people are fighting against similiarly ranked opponets. if you've noticed, the top ratings went from around 2000.. to what, 2600? 2700 now? i really doubt those people are that "good".. but it is very possible to acquire that rating when everyone you fight against is 300 points or more below you.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by checkmyparanoia

lol at the many deleted posts.
warp to blue then 5 seconds is best. pipes might be "overpowered" but thats not the purpose of this topic. the problem is that pipes, and many other weapons can autospawnkill (or at least get in QUITE a few hits, ie chaingun/bluerifle/redrifle/smg) in the spar arenas. now, personally i think you're a ******* if you enter when someone is spawnkilling.. but it is annoying to see their ratings go up because someone is stupid enough to think they can handle getting shot when walking through the door.

on another improvement:
i think it'd be great to have different arenas sorted by ranking.. because now someone with 2500 can fight over and over against 1400 people.. and because of the huge skill difference they can win everytime. and get rating everytime. while they get small amounts of rating, it is still, in my opinion, too possible to "outclass" the others at the arena. i say several different rooms organized by rating, and 1 unrated room (any can play.).

in other words, each room will have a spar rating range of a few hundred.. so people are fighting against similiarly ranked opponets. if you've noticed, the top ratings went from around 2000.. to what, 2600? 2700 now? i really doubt those people are that "good".. but it is very possible to acquire that rating when everyone you fight against is 300 points or more below you.

The only people that would be anywhere near my league spar ratign wise is Jo... It is true that it is easy to beat them but after awhile they kil lyou once, you gain about 20-30 pont in incriments of 0.1 you lose about 30 when dying to them, because you don't realize after you kill them their spar continually goes down, therefore you lsoe mroe when they kill you... If jo wasn't on when I was there would be NOBODY in my arena to kill! and that gets very boring....

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

The only people that would be anywhere near my league spar ratign wise is Jo...

eh spar number maybe, but spar level...im gunna have to disagree...

and to paranoa (welcome btw, i see your new in the forums)

good idea about the ranking number to spar only those same level ranking range

i like that a damn lot

and about the deleted posts...eh...ive probably only bashed once in these last like 2 weeks...yet my posts get deleted a lot

i dont understand it...so ya dont be surprised if your post gets deleted for no reason :S

if you asked someone why they said something, itd probably get deleted...no joke....these admins are very strange in these forums :S (THAT IS NOT A FLAME ADMINS, you are just...very different...than my other forums, much more strict.....)

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by icemaster

ive probably only bashed once

o_o
Joking! ^_^ Oh and it's not flame joke, bash means something disturbing in slang term.