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Old 07-22-2004, 05:52 PM
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It means you should be able to if you wish it so.

In this case, he was not able to.
He was not able to play due to problems on Cyberjoueurs' computers, i wouldn't die for not being able to play a playerworld for two days when there are many decent others to play.
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Old 07-22-2004, 05:56 PM
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We are talking about Graal.
OSOREE MISTAH WOUND-EYE, ME NO SPEEKY GOOD ENGRISH LIKEE ROO AMERICANS DOO.

No, seriously though, of course we're talking about graal, but i was giving examples of similar setups where you pay a set fee for a certain amount of a service. Pay more attention in english lessons next time *wags finger*


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From what I know, you electric bill is directly proportional to your electric usage. I could be wrong though.
Yea, i don't really know either, but if you did pay a fixed amount for a fixed amount of electricity, you'd get the idea o.o


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But it is reasonable. This is something that can be credited back and should be for Graal to retain its customers who pay to play Kingdoms. I, however, do not care because I only play Classic servers.
Oh but it ISNT reasonable, and my examples should have proved that adamantly. If we don't expect such essential services like water (unless you have a water metre o.o) to compensate us with two days free water for a loss of water for two days, then why the hell should we expect something as material and unimportant as graal to pay us back two measly days?
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Old 07-22-2004, 06:10 PM
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Oh but it ISNT reasonable, and my examples should have proved that adamantly. If we don't expect such essential services like water (unless you have a water metre o.o) to compensate us with two days free water for a loss of water for two days,
Water is like $0.05 a gallon.
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then why the hell should we expect something as material and unimportant as graal to pay us back two measly days?
I can put Graal in the same context as other situations just as you did.
Let's say when you gave your friend 10 dollars to buy you a cookie everyday for 10 days. One day your friend was sick and you didn't get your cookie, wouldn't you want a cookie for the day he missed? Sorry, not the best example...but this is something Graal could and should credit, unless there is a clause somewhere in the rules that states Graal will not compensate server downtime, if they want to retain paying customers.
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Old 07-22-2004, 08:04 PM
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Water is like $0.05 a gallon.
If you buy a year of gold, Graal is $0.11 a day.
($39 / 365 )
Seems like a rather insubstantial amount to worry about.
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Old 07-22-2004, 08:44 PM
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If you buy a year of gold, Graal is $0.11 a day.
($39 / 365 )
Seems like a rather insubstantial amount to worry about.
I only put water in that perspective because the price of water is proportional to the amount you use, not a set fee for unlimited use, here in New York anyway. Even if its 11 cents a day, you are still losing =(.
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:25 PM
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Seriously man, if you pay a solid £10 a month for internet, and your ISP is down for two days, you don't ring up and ask for 2 days worth of free internet, do you?
Damn staight I do.
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:02 PM
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It makes perfect sense that people would want a day of gold time as recompense for when they could not access Graal Kingdoms for a day...?
My point is - what if they don't play GK? They're getting gold for free, for no reason. How will you be able to tell who plays GK? How will you know who actually missed out during that time...? I don't think it's a good idea, but like I said earlier... I'm all up and on getting free gold (:
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:03 PM
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It's stupid because it is TWO DAYS out of an entire year's worth of gold? People do not get run over, catch on fire, recieve the flu virus, or anything else bad just because they don't get two days of graal.
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Getting worked up about TWO DAYS without graal is just pathetic.
I'm not advocating getting worked up about twenty-four hours without Graal. I have noted, however, that they have a valid point. Thus, I will assist their side in the debate you seem intent on having.

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Know what i did when i couldnt play graal that day? I went outside, kicked a football around for a while. Then i did some exercises with my weights for the first time in ages. In other words, I DID SOMETHING ELSE.
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And that's exactly what this guy should have done, but instead he probably sat around sulking and planning out his demand for compensation.
Don't tell other people how to spend their time. You are neither them nor their boss.

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Seriously man, if you pay a solid £10 a month for internet, and your ISP is down for two days, you don't ring up and ask for 2 days worth of free internet, do you?
I pay $30/month for DSL, and if it is down for two days then there is a big problem and you'd better believe I request a credit on my bill. If pay for a given time period of service, I will be receiving that time period of service or I will get my money back..

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If there's a powercut, you don't ring up and ask for 5 hours of free electricity, do you? Unless you're pathetic, the answer is no.
Except that is a poor analogy and you do not pay a set rate for time periods of power, but you pay for the amount of power you consume. There is no reason to get money back if you are not still paying extra for that period in which you have the poweroutage.

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Seriously, the only reason i can think of why any of you would be going along with this guy and saying his request is reasonable slash demanding for two days free gold yourself is so that you can have a nice big stab at the establishment.
Oh, my. I do not need any days of gold, sir. I have plenty of money sitting in my paypal account to upgrade me. However, I recognize that other, less-fortunate ones cannot upgrade their accounts so easily, and losing one or two days is a realy big deal to them. I support that side because, while the initial request was not worded reasonably, the idea itself is not an unreasonable one.

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Ps.If that is the reason, then lol, carry on, having a stab is one of my favourite things I just think it's stupid to demand compensation for a few hours without some game as if it were a serious matter which caused you great harm.
And I think that if someone pays for a service and does not receive it, they are entitled to at least try to discuss it with their service provider.
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:37 PM
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So your saying that I should buy a year of graal and because I can go outside, I should not use it ?

No. I pay to play graal kingdoms, if I cannot get access to graal kingdoms then I want money for that time.

And yes, if my ISP went down for 2 days I want my money back for those two days. I don't pay for things I don't have. If that's the case then everyone on graal should just give me a dollar, since ya know it doesnt matter much.
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:57 PM
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I'd like a few minutes added to my account from when the (npcserver) was down this morning. Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-22-2004, 11:01 PM
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Don't tell other people how to spend their time. You are neither them nor their boss.
Yeah, but i should be
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[QUOTE=Xecutor]Water is like $0.05 a gallon.
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Water is "free" here, 'cept you pay monthly but dont have to buy water or anything like that.
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Old 07-23-2004, 12:22 AM
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Water is "free" here, 'cept you pay monthly but dont have to buy water or anything like that.
Well then it isn't exactly free since the fee of it is inclusive to a monthly payment, rent I suppose?
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Old 07-23-2004, 12:39 AM
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So your saying that I should buy a year of graal and because I can go outside, I should not use it ?

No. I pay to play graal kingdoms, if I cannot get access to graal kingdoms then I want money for that time.

And yes, if my ISP went down for 2 days I want my money back for those two days. I don't pay for things I don't have. If that's the case then everyone on graal should just give me a dollar, since ya know it doesnt matter much.
100% agreed
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:01 AM
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It is completely ironic that you would mention your ISP provider failing you for a length of time
The exact thing happened to me today
I woke up at 3 pm (cause I'm an early riser)
I noticed my internet connection wasn't working
So I watched some TV for a few hours
Then I tried again and still failed to connect to the internet
I called up Cox Cable, they had the problem fixed and they said they would take a fraction of my charges off my next bill

But back to the point at hand
To my knowledge, a single person in this thread would be honestly upset if they did not get recredited with the time unavailable but paid for
And there are a lot of people that have the uncanny ability to use LOGIC (thank goodness for those kind of people)
They are the ones saying that it would be natural to assume you should be compensated for a service you paid for and did not recieve
Just because they say that, doesn't mean they are desperate for time back themselves
It means they are sane, logical beings
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