Multiple Setshapes?

[jake13jake]

No, not a question, more of a suggestion... It would be nice if you could just add <<setshape# x,y,width,height,type>>.... so that way you could set a shape more easily around some showimgs... make it so you wouldn't be so tempted to put so many different NPCs for so many of the same purposes in one level, you know? especially with showimgs.

[DIABLO2099]

Hm, aren't showimgs normally used for display purposes rather than interacting with the player other than visually?

[zokemon]

No?
Look at a Menu GUI o_O

[Dach]

Originally Posted by zokemon

No?
Look at a Menu GUI o_O

that has nothing to do with this suggestion

Give some examples of usage with this, I hate it when people dis an idea because they can't think of anything to do with it

[billybob256]

acctually, multiple setshapes is a great idea, because i make houses out of ganis, and have to use setshape for every one, and for castles i have to use about 5.

It would really reduce lag but how would you select the NPCs in the level editor?

[Lance]

Originally Posted by billybob256

acctually, multiple setshapes is a great idea, because i make houses out of ganis, and have to use setshape for every one, and for castles i have to use about 5.

It would really reduce lag but how would you select the NPCs in the level editor?

Put the setshape in the gani...?

Originally Posted by jake13jake

Ex. I was working on Classic's boat NPC, some people told me that I should keep the boat's shape, but I wanted to make it so I only need one class, and I did everything but the actual tickettaker as a showimg. If I wanted to make it so nobody could swim under the boat, I would have to make a setshape.

Attachplayertoobj + dontblock...?

Also, this would probably be the most practical use for it.. let's say you wanted to have an NPC so that the player could walk partially behind/under it... like the back of a tree, a sign, or a picnic table...

setshape2...?

[jake13jake]

Originally Posted by Lance

Put the setshape in the gani...?



Attachplayertoobj + dontblock...?



setshape2...?

Have you ever even seen the classic boat system? What if you wanted to put more than one table in a level but have all the tables in one npc? What if you wanted a level in which all the walls were scripted in setshapes?

[G_yoshi]

Originally Posted by billybob256

acctually, multiple setshapes is a great idea, because i make houses out of ganis, and have to use setshape for every one, and for castles i have to use about 5.

It would really reduce lag but how would you select the NPCs in the level editor?

~G_Yoshi's Slice of Advice (lol)~

You don't even need to use setshape for houses if you know how to do it right Take a look at GK's buildings. The gani, in the editor, shows a 'base' which is the blocking zone of the house. Next, open the gani in wordpad and take a look at the script. That's what puts up the rest of the building without blocking the player. Its very useful and very efficient. Plus, when in the level editor, you see the entire thing, not just the base. I use this on Doragon Koden for anything that a player could possibly go under: Trees, houses, even my stone walls.

Setshape is more useful for smaller objects. Its purpose is for use with an NPC server, particularly non-clientside objects (i.e. script does not contain //#CLIENTSIDE; can still be used clientside, though). Setshape2 is pretty much the same except you get more control over how each 'tile' of the image behaves.

[jake13jake]

Ex. I was working on Classic's boat NPC, some people told me that I should keep the boat's shape, but I wanted to make it so I only need one class, and I did everything but the actual tickettaker as a showimg. If I wanted to make it so nobody could swim under the boat, I would have to make a setshape.

Also, this would probably be the most practical use for it.. let's say you wanted to have an NPC so that the player could walk partially behind/under it... like the back of a tree, a sign, or a picnic table... you could do the setshape at x+1 instead of having it be at X. There could be a lot of uses for this.

[Dach]

hmm, if it weren't for the obvious lag reducing capabilities, I'd say no for sure, but for multiple similar objects that are cross-level, showimgs would be much nicer than npcs (i.e. those blasted lights people keep making, even though that has nothing to do with setshape ). But just for having different layers of shapes on one object, put your setshape and block/dontblock in a timeout and change them as the player's interaction with the npc changes (see attachment). You don't need to layer showimgs to do such things.

[DIABLO2099]

putnpc with a class script may do the trick, not sure =O.

[dlang]

This would be easier for certain npcs than useing multiple images.

[dlang]

I don't care if you can do it in the gani I want to be able to do it from the script, its not that hard. just have like:

setshape3 index,x,y,width,height;

I would also like to be able to make images out of tiles by using the tile coordinates in the tile selection window, not by pixel.

[jake13jake]

Originally Posted by dlang

I don't care if you can do it in the gani I want to be able to do it from the script, its not that hard. just have like:

setshape3 index,x,y,width,height;

I would also like to be able to make images out of tiles by using the tile coordinates in the tile selection window, not by pixel.

Well, the images out of tiles by using tile coords isn't going to happen, seeing that the conversion's so simple: (tilex*16,tiley*16) = (pixelsx,pixelsy).

EDIT: dont forget... for maximum utilization capabilities we'd want it to be "setshape3 index,x,y,width,height,type;"

[G_yoshi]

Originally Posted by dlang

I don't care if you can do it in the gani I want to be able to do it from the script, its not that hard. just have like:

setshape3 index,x,y,width,height;

I would also like to be able to make images out of tiles by using the tile coordinates in the tile selection window, not by pixel.

So do it with script. You know you can put scripts in ganis, right?

This is what is irritating to me :/ What you want can already be done, you just choose to avoid doing it yourself. And what purpose would you have for making images out of tiles? Are you just going to dump an image in a tileset? Kind of stupid if you ask me when you have commands like showimg and even ganis to do a lot of things for you. It could potentially be more useful with your command suggestion, but I hope you are aware that there is an actual size limit to NPC scripts. A command like that used on my playerworld would be silly because I use lots of NPC objects even though they are reoccurring scripts.

One big NPC script takes longer to load versus lots of tiny scripts. I really try to avoid using setshape unless I'm defining something like a bridge or defining warps. <-this is the response to why you shouldn't use one NPC for all scripted objects in one level. Its not efficient to dump them all in one. It would be like trying to eat a meal all at once: very difficult and time consuming....and not efficient.