Quite possibly the reason Kingdoms is ****ty.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

It's too late to do anything about this stuff. =/
Yeah. Removing or putting a cap on EAs means lots, and lots, and lots of people will start complaining. Zzz, noone wants that, do we, so no caps or anything will happen.
I agree that EAs and stuff are nullifying all other aspects of the game, even levels. Like some of you said, now that lvl20s can get like +10 everything, they can beat up on lvl50s which makes no sense.
The idea of a cap on the amount of EAs per item sounds nice, and so does the similarity with prepping weapons (can't use armour more powerful than your level). A personal idea would be that you can only use an armour that -you- have enchanted. Anyone elses, you can't equip it. This means that only people who have worked that hard for their enchants get the benefits and it keeps things balanced (kinda; you don't have lvl20s beating up on lvl50s). I guess that the only solution to this particular area of imbalance would be either the reset w/ a changed system we all know will never come, or the kinds of restrictions above.

DX said like :
"Ok.
Kingdoms is for RP.
RP.
Don't worry about the items. You don't NEED to PK to have fun.
If you don't want to be PKed, go peaceful. RP, have fun. That's what kingdoms is for. I don't see why people complain over something so small. If you just want to PK then goto classic or something. Kingdoms is for RP (I know I dont RP but I dont complain about stuff because I know I dont need to).
RP
RP
RP."
I agree with this, but i've been coming to see that PKing is being rather highly promoted, and pretty much nothing is being done to promote RP on the server. Think about it, what came out for new years? Items. What was the last big thing to be created? An event island, made for events with items as the prizes, and there are no RP-specific events on that island. What was the last kingdom specific thing to be added, other than their items? The kingdoms themselves, most likely, and i dunno when the heck they got added but i know it was a long long time ago

People are crying out for things like items and better player vs player systems, but why? Like DX said, kingdoms is an RP server, not some bullring designed for constant PKing.
Nayako (i think?) said "If you want RPing, go to valikorlia". Well, i say the opposite. If you want RPing, stay on GK; If you want PKing, go to UN, classic or era. We should be pining and whining for better RP environments, not better "pwning" environments.

My final note:
Forts

[skyler87]

Originally posted by Deek2
Looks like there needs to be another reset.

emphasis :o

[tc_topcat]

I think that EAing should only be for the person...e.g if zoe ea'd her stuff to +10 only she can use it, like a preped weapon.

The high level people only EA for their friends are mucking up GK even more. It is creating a society much like our own of upper, middle and lower class....the upper class having the best armour, weapons and having massivly high EA'd items.

I think the probelm with levels is that i doubt any of the high level people can claim that they 100% done it theirself, as i have heard which staff member is making maps and i also know quite a few people who have got them.......I think that it is very pathetic that they are too lazy to achieve these levels by theirselfs and not by hard work and determination.

[GoZelda]

Okay, ima gonna show you my opinion but i just GOTTA reply to this:

Originally posted by busyrobot
and Nayoko (lvl 53) was able keep you back completely.

Well, that same Nayako got PKed by me - she attacked me after my hard day of mining, i had about 2.2 speed, and my AC sucks. Anyway, i won.

Ya see, magic will get more popular if you can't hit someone. Use magic. Then people will get magic+ resistance, but then they lose some AC and WC (take off RoW's, change gods = lower level), and they got more hit easy, and they change constantly ^_~

[foxyrain]

Originally posted by Crint_Eastawood
It also didnt help when Zoe abused a bug with an alchemy recipe to gain 100k exp each time the recipe is made.

Denori...This recipe had been used prior to my finding out about it. When I found out, I tried it. Chris, of Forest, approached me accusing of the abuse of a bug. I immediately went to RC and reported this recipe, requesting information as to whether or not it was a bug. Lance requested the recipe not be used until it could be investigated. I notified all persons online at the time that the recipe could be a bug and not to use. The recipe was not used by me until such time as Lance said it would be alright to use it at one's own risk. I used it for approximately 30k after.

The recipe was also discussed with Stefan.

Note: Most people are very low in mental because it has been very difficult to level mental to any great extent. As one might realize, any low exp. characteristic when used - provides higher experience. However, as the experience of that characteristic level rises, experience tends to lessen in amount given. Voila! The bug therefore, is not a bug. Point proven with last 30k.

Also: SpIke: My object in leveling was merely to defend myself from pker's. However, I noted also that pker's love to pk new people. It occured to me that possibly blessing people to +7 Govannon and assisting in doing some of their gear would at least give them a chance against people that are, at times, heartless.

As to enchantments... have you not had yours done? I don't know about you, but I always try to share my wealth with others... as does the entire Sagesun family. Sarid has blessed many ogma blessings for people. Ana has handed out items she got through trades. Padren has given platinum, blessings and items. Satrek has given blessings and more. Wren has given blessings, enchantments, items. Aki, always a giver and always a friend as is Driken. Me? Well I am just Zoe.

Z

[Splke]

Originally posted by foxyrain

Also: SpIke: My object in leveling was merely to defend myself from pker's. However, I noted also that pker's love to pk new people. It occured to me that possibly blessing people to +7 Govannon and assisting in doing some of their gear would at least give them a chance against people that are, at times, heartless.

As to enchantments... have you not had yours done? I don't know about you, but I always try to share my wealth with others... as does the entire Sagesun family. Sarid has blessed many ogma blessings for people. Ana has handed out items she got through trades. Padren has given platinum, blessings and items. Satrek has given blessings and more. Wren has given blessings, enchantments, items. Aki, always a giver and always a friend as is Driken. Me? Well I am just Zoe.

Ah, I see... so your efforts to level were simply to save yourself from the "pkers"... Honestly Zoe, nobody can touch you, nobody was ever able too, since all of Dustari would come after those individuals... You simply leveled for self-satisfaction or perhaps to rival Tec... Anyways, its not up to me too say what you were thinking, as I dont really know...

You gave Gov+7 thinking it would help? Please... You did that just as a kindof, celebratory thing... and so that you wouldnt be bugged (as taharus mass' suggested) about blessing anymore...

Eh.. Sagesun Family EA's, and Blesses free for Sagesun or Dustari.. You ignore everybody else, unless its Scream, or Alex (only two i know who recently got +10s from you)... Lets clear this all up now... Sarid may very well bless for people, thats nice, I have nothing against her. However, "Ana" gives items to Sagesuns, mostly you, Wren, and Padren circulate items (according to her she has Wrens hammer, Wren has hers or something like that) amongst yourselves... I havent heard too much of her just approaching somebody and giving them an item .. Padren, once again, gives things to Dustari members, yet another lure to join Dustari. Satrek blesses I know that... Wren doesnt answer many people, though she does give Enchants, free plat, some items to a select few... Akira has always been there for me, so I cant complain... Driken has given several people Enchantments, and friendship... Yes, I agree your Zoe, unless you want to clear something up... You EA Dustarians, Bless for alot of people (for price, not as of lately) and give items too fellow Sagesun... You EA for select few outside of the Dustari family... All in all, this seems like a big ass reason to join Dustari... The high EAs, and free blessings are all you have too say to bring people to Dustari, and it seems too work...

But... really, I want to adress the idea of treating EAing as prepping... The one problem I have with that, is that items are traded alot, and if you had to clean the item(s) to rid of the account name, then itd ruin the EAs (right?)... But, I really do like that idea... it would force players to EA things themselves, which means they would haveto work! I like that idea alot...

[foxyrain]

I think perhaps you are not aware of all that we have done, and I will not sit here and argue all that we have done for others outside the family. I will say how soon you have forgotten the gift of Christmas to all and the many blessings given out throughout the year by all of us.

As for doing for our kingdom, we certainly do. That is our job. Trying to recruit that way? Why? Are you interested? I really had not thought about that, but you've a good idea for recruiting promo's. JOIN DUSTARI AND GET IT ALL FREE! (Don't bother if you scam!)


Finally.... I also agree with enchanting as though prep'd.

[tc_topcat]

speaking for myself, i have asked if a sagesun member coudl help me belss something, and i even offered diamonds, i was ignored...so i left it at that. Although not attacking zoe in anyway i have had the pleasure of talking with her and found her to be nice. I havent seen the sagesun family help a lot of people i know....the only person who has helped me is akira but then she is my boyfs lil sister and i can complain at her in RL..hehehe....akira <3<3<3 when you coming to fattys wit me??? ice baby:P

[meishanli]

Originally posted by tc_topcat
RL..hehehe....akira <3<3<3 when you coming to fattys wit me??? ice baby:P

Wth? Lol.
Hey...I don't see the problem here, so what if Zoe is level 100? It's not a damn crime, she worked hard for it ;x
It's really up to her who she wants to EA people's stuff or do blessings :o Infact, she's very generous that she gave a whole load of free blessings out yesterday o.o She gives more gov+7 blessings out than I give out Leuc+4 XP
And oh yeah Misty, Sagesuns do help..they nice to talk to, help alot...and Ana helped Huang even though she doesn't really know him...
And without Sagesun, I won't be where I am now <3

[sYnergy247]

Level 100? **** I need to make friends with Zoe

[darkemporor]

Originally posted by Splke
...but now people can have simple gear (boots, helm, shield) and get them +10 and thats -38 or so AC...

I don't know if that actually is true. Maybe I will test this on debug for you... but so what? Why is having one player on the server who is able to +10 items a bad thing? It's like you said, you didn't complain when you got +7 and it was the highest enchantment available. So it's clearly obvious why are you complaining now about +10.

D1ce2, ...doesnt have to even Level up, because he knows some Sagesuns who EA'd his stuff...

I resent your continuous attack on Sagesuns in forums. The most dangerous people on this game mix lies with truth to formulate their complaints. The truth is Tec +10'd all of D1ce2's stuff and he possesses some of that 'legends' old items now.

And by the way, it was Tecumsah who got plat, diamond, map, scroll and item RICH from his ability to +10 enchant LONG before Zoe ever could. So how the game suffers now because Zoe is selective about how much more high enchantments are released is beyond me.

The rest of us however, either get constantly ignored, or slammed with 200 diamond prices for 1 peice of gear...

Maybe you get ignored because after awhile your negative comments become ENOUGH. Why should anyone who makes a constant effort to bash Sagesuns expect anything from them? Common sense.

Anywhom, sorry for complainning...

You're not sorry. If you were, you'd stop it and find some way to be more of a success in your game without continuously complaining, pointing your finger, naming names and blaming everyone else when you encounter things that you cannot change.

Wren

[darkemporor]

Originally posted by skyler87
Noone was meant to be able to get past level 60.

That doesn't make sense to me. If players were not meant to achieve levels above 60, they wouldn't be able to.

Wren

[skyler87]

Originally posted by darkemporor



That doesn't make sense to me. If players were not meant to achieve levels above 60, they wouldn't be able to.

Wren

I didn't mean that in a literal way..I'm just saying that noone would have the time, patience, or items to level up past level 60 without stacked brutals and other bugs. That's why we have this problem with high armour enchantments in the first place.

And I have to agree, it was Tec who completely ruined the server, Zoe really had nothing to do with it (nor did anyone else).

[Splke]

Originally posted by darkemporor


I don't know if that actually is true. Maybe I will test this on debug for you... but so what? Why is having one player on the server who is able to +10 items a bad thing? It's like you said, you didn't complain when you got +7 and it was the highest enchantment available. So it's clearly obvious why are you complaining now about +10.

GO ahead, make sure you include his Sandals, Havoks with ac+1 and wc+2 and his perfect cloak...

I resent your continuous attack on Sagesuns in forums. The most dangerous people on this game mix lies with truth to formulate their complaints. The truth is Tec +10'd all of D1ce2's stuff and he possesses some of that 'legends' old items now.

I know, if you would read my first post, without picking through it and seeing only "OMG ZOE RUINED TEH GAMEZOR" then you would of seen, and I WILL QUOTE IT FOR YOU!

"I dont think that Zoe herself should be blamed for the past +8 / +9 / +10 since she herself may or earned that (without stacked maps)...

Tecumseh before her, Shobre somewhat before him and Wren as well all contributed too the high Enchantments... It isnt as if I didnt benefit from the +7-+10 's of them, but now people can have simple gear (boots, helm, shield) and get them +10 and thats -38 or so AC...

NOTICE I DID NOT SINGLE HER OUT... You guys are simply trying to make me look bad by reading between the lines... maybe you should have Tec help you read, he seems to be better at responding to posts as a whole thing, not just individual parts of posts that you find and manipulate to your own ways...

And by the way, it was Tecumsah who got plat, diamond, map, scroll and item RICH from his ability to +10 enchant LONG before Zoe ever could. So how the game suffers now because Zoe is selective about how much more high enchantments are released is beyond me.

Im not adressing the cost as the main problem, you guys are looking at it that way, or in the way that im mad cause I cant own... If you read back, I said the main problem is the imbalanced gameplay +10 has caused.... again, you twist my words to suit your cause.

Maybe you get ignored because after awhile your negative comments become ENOUGH. Why should anyone who makes a constant effort to bash Sagesuns expect anything from them? Common sense.

At least I say things to your face, unlike all the others who sit and have bashing contests about Sagesun.. Think about it, really really hard.... Would you rather KNOW somebody hates you, or have it so somebody secretly hates you and makes you express a positive attitude towards then, waste energy being nice to them, etc.

You're not sorry. If you were, you'd stop it and find some way to be more of a success in your game without continuously complaining, pointing your finger, naming names and blaming everyone else when you encounter things that you cannot change.

Wren

Incorrect, I am sorry for this becomming a me vs. Zoe thing, I didnt plan on it happenning that way, she just happened to become the main subject because you guys felt like making me look bad....

Actually, I am quite the sucess... I have many friends and I feel that in itself is worth more then any lvl I could attain....

Oh, and I may point fingers (notice the plural word usage :o) but at least I know what Im talkin about when I do, unlike how I used too be...

"Naming Names and blaming everyone else.." AH!! but you see, the true beauty, is it is the people faults, since they are the ones with the level capability to EA things that high...

[Nappa]

Zoe +10'ed all my stuff except for my FHoM for me. For free too. Im not a sagesun person. So I guess im special or something.

Anyway, leave Zoe alone. She worked hard for what she has, leave it at that. If your jelous, go out and level for yourself.

And no, I do not say that just because she EA'ed my items.