Troubles...

[FreezeBurnX]

Originally posted by Valder

He has control powers or so I believe he does. He is staff on 2k1 but I'm not sure he is anymore.

He is just an ET now. He don't have any control powers, he used villa powers,
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It would warp you from any place to outside of his house.

[Nappa]

Originally posted by zell12
You caused the problem, therefore the money comes from your pocket because you are the only one to blame.

I caused a problem ? I scammed a guys hat, his flute, and his shovel, and cheetos takes a hat a flute a shovel and 158g from me. Thats BS.

Originally posted by Valder
but you abused powers that were given to you with trust and abusing them would make me not trust you as much anymore.

Please reread the thread.

I payed 700g for my Villa and 500g to renovate it. I was not "Given" these powers. The staff were just too idiotic to fix the bugs, even after I KNOW some of them new about it.

Originally posted by FreezeBurnX
The dude lost 3 trees and I know it's not that Harmfull, but it's kinda annoying. You didn't only made a dude loose 3 trees, people died without knowing and I saw a dude that lost 57 apples and 94g that I gave him back (the money, the apples you have em). Also, you started to scam people just because you got fired by something you don't even wanna talk about. I don't think you are a bad guy or something, I acctually think you are quita good guy, kind and generous, but the ban, is starting to sound fair.

Three trees is nothing, even though it is annoying. That is not banworthy.

I scammed people because now I have no reason to do good or follow the rules as I once did, so why shouldn't I do the same thing as 99% of my friends do and scam people ? It is enjoyable and a faster way of making money.

I dont want to talk about the firing because people who think they know what happened that got me fired will argue with me about it.

Originally posted by Zurkiba
The apology isn't the childish... it's the actions you did. Something went the way you didn't want it to so you pretty much had a trandrum like a three year old has... only you had more powers to do so.

So scamming people is childish. That means over half of the players who ever played 2k1 are/were childish. I had fun doing so, and I do not regret it.

And for the last sentence, again, I did not have any more powers to do so, other then the villa, in which I payed alot of money for, it was not handed to me.

Originally posted by Valder
He has control powers or so I believe he does. He is staff on 2k1 but I'm not sure he is anymore.

I have staff powers on the dev server like every other staff, with no abilities on the real server. I haven't been fired, but I guess if I continue like this, that will be the next step. I talked to tseng after he personally banned me, and he was giving me something to script for 2k1, so obviously I haven't been fired yet.

[FreezeBurnX]

Originally posted by Nappa

I scammed people because now I have no reason to do good or follow the rules as I once did, so why shouldn't I do the same thing as 99% of my friends do and scam people ? It is enjoyable and a faster way of making money.

You started good then went bad It sounds fair, except the part it is enjoyable and a faster way of making money.
Haven't you read the Police Office rules?

9)Stealing/scamming is not allowed. (...) If Proven guilty, stolen/scammed items will be returned to their rightful owner.

About, the stuff you done, I agree, It's not bannable, and if bannable, just for some time.

[Zethar]

Originally posted by zs0




*ctrl+L emoticon on Graal o_O*

What are you laughing about

[zell12]

Hey Nappa, you said you read the code of conduct, guess not. I'll highlight a few major points for you:

"...While a player may think that abusing a bug for personal gain may not affect others, the fact is that it distorts power, creates imbalances in riches, and is otherwise unfair to players abiding by normal game rules. Players must agree that the consequences of allowing bugs and loopholes to be exploited is so detrimental to the product, that GraalOnline will exercise no tolerance whatsoever for anyone participating in this type of activity.

Bugs should always be reported. If you observe someone else abusing a serious bug, or discussing a plan to abuse one, and fail to report it, you are subject to the same penalties as they are. Players should report bugs to the Graal forum, Support Center (GraalDesk) or email the problem to [email protected].

Rewards obtained from bug abuse may be confiscated, at GraalOnline' sole discretion. Failure to cooperate with GraalOnline as to the extent or nature of a bug, or failure to be honest about the rewards obtained from bug abuse, is grounds for immediate lock-out from GraalOnline."


There you have it, you should be banned on about three different accounts. Knowing about the bug and not telling a staff member; threating you will use another bug; and finally, abusing the bug itself.

Sorry Nappa, but you lose.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Nappa


I payed 700g for my Villa and 500g to renovate it. I was not "Given" these powers. The staff were just too idiotic to fix the bugs, even after I KNOW some of them new about it.

Here's where I take offense...had you told me of this bug when someone else abused it, or even when you discovered it, I could have fixed it. Then, this whole problem would not have existed.

I don't like that you insult staff for not fixing it, when you wouldn't even give us the courtesy to inform us of it...

I have staff powers on the dev server like every other staff, with no abilities on the real server. I haven't been fired, but I guess if I continue like this, that will be the next step. I talked to tseng after he personally banned me, and he was giving me something to script for 2k1, so obviously I haven't been fired yet.

Yeah, you've still got a job. That's just another wonderful facet of the dev server - staff do not get put above the law.

[Nappa]

Originally posted by zell12
"...While a player may think that abusing a bug for personal gain may not affect others, the fact is that it distorts power, creates imbalances in riches, and is otherwise unfair to players abiding by normal game rules. Players must agree that the consequences of allowing bugs and loopholes to be exploited is so detrimental to the product, that GraalOnline will exercise no tolerance whatsoever for anyone participating in this type of activity.]

I did not gain anything from using this bug, thusfor any consequences for "Gaining something" are null.

Bugs should always be reported. If you observe someone else abusing a serious bug, or discussing a plan to abuse one, and fail to report it, you are subject to the same penalties as they are. Players should report bugs to the Graal forum, Support Center (GraalDesk) or email the problem to [email protected].

I reported to Loriel, and later when CheeToS came to my villa, I showed him the bug.

Rewards obtained from bug abuse may be confiscated, at GraalOnline' sole discretion. Failure to cooperate with GraalOnline as to the extent or nature of a bug, or failure to be honest about the rewards obtained from bug abuse, is grounds for immediate lock-out from GraalOnline."

Ok, please confiscate my big piece of nothing. I never was dishonest or did not tell staff about the bug, and I am honest about the rewards I have gained from the bug - Nothing.

There you have it, you should be banned on about three different accounts. Knowing about the bug and not telling a staff member; threating you will use another bug; and finally, abusing the bug itself.

Told staff. Threatened over AIM, which is legal, as any threats over anything not owned or run by graal online can not affect the punishment or outcome of any decision by graalonline staff. I did abuse the bug, ok, Punish me for that.

Sorry Nappa, but you lose.

*Shrugs* I already figured that one out.

Originally posted by Lance
Here's where I take offense...had you told me of this bug when someone else abused it, or even when you discovered it, I could have fixed it. Then, this whole problem would not have existed.

I told Loriel and showed CheeToS, though after I already used it. By the time you would of got on to fix it in the first place, 4-5 hours would of passed and someone else could of fixed it by then anyway. Though you do have me there, I should of reported it to you, I already know I am at fault.

Yeah, you've still got a job. That's just another wonderful facet of the dev server - staff do not get put above the law.

One of the reasons I like the dev server.



And I have found out about an estimate of how long I will be banned (roughly a week or so I believe it is).

[CheeToS2]

Originally posted by Nappa
I did not gain anything from using this bug, thusfor any consequences for "Gaining something" are null.

You/others PKed each other & got items/money from it.

I reported to Loriel, and later when CheeToS came to my villa, I showed him the bug.

You didn't show me it yourself, I got complaints over aim about you (again) about it being abused, and more complaints when I logged on, you PMed me about a bug, and while I was fixing the warping glitch, you told me that isn't what you wanted me to fix x.x

Ok, please confiscate my big piece of nothing. I never was dishonest or did not tell staff about the bug, and I am honest about the rewards I have gained from the bug - Nothing.

see above points

[Nappa]

Originally posted by CheeToS2

You/others PKed each other & got items/money from it.

I did not pk 1 person, or make money or items from any person.

You didn't show me it yourself, I got complaints over aim about you (again) about it being abused, and more complaints when I logged on, you PMed me about a bug, and while I was fixing the warping glitch, you told me that isn't what you wanted me to fix x.x

I don't know if you realized it or not, but I sat their and summoned someone while you were in the room, to show you it. But that isnt what I wanted you to fix - I wanted you to fix my furniture. I was merely reporting that that bug was also there.



I dont really want to wait a week to be unbanned, I am gonna freakin go insane. Today all I did was sit and scripted all day, which is nice, but not what I would prefer to do.

[zell12]

You should be perminently locked-out of graal. You have caused other people a loss of their work by summoning them. You ABUSED a bug to do that.

[Nappa]

Originally posted by zell12
You should be perminently locked-out of graal. You have caused other people a loss of their work by summoning them. You ABUSED a bug to do that.

So your saying I abuse 1 bug and I should be permanently banned from graal. Oh my god 1 person lost 3 trees. Thats the most damage I have seen so far.

[zell12]

When you warped people, it caused them to lose money.

[Rolav]

You scammed me 158g a flute and a few other things then completely denied it and was rallying people with you on a false story trying to say i lied and to nag to CheeTos to get the items you scammed off me back. If thats no childish i dont know what is.

[Rolav]

Oh yes, and forgot to mention the numerous people you were warping to ur villa as they were farming and pearl diving...

[Nappa]

Originally posted by zell12
When you warped people, it caused them to lose money.

1 Person lost 3 trees. Thats all the damage I have heard so far.

Originally posted by Rolav
You scammed me 158g a flute and a few other things then completely denied it and was rallying people with you on a false story trying to say i lied and to nag to CheeTos to get the items you scammed off me back. If thats no childish i dont know what is.

You may have convinced CheeToS that that's what happened, but that doesnt mean the story is true.

Oh yes, and forgot to mention the numerous people you were warping to ur villa as they were farming and pearl diving...

1 Person was farming, which yes, is a loss of money. In pearl diving you do not lose money, which makes that null in losing money.