Who hates Dustari becuase they took over Samurai?

[FatherDante]

A monarchy with a selfish and immature king, that's a good replica of Dustari. Members who want royal titles, that's a good replica of Dustari. If you wanted to "save" Samurai, congratulations, because you saved the population of a GUILD TAG! But if you wanted to kill the samurai spirit we were founded on, congratulations, because you succeeded in that also. Saved us? Tell that to the 5 or so true samurai who discovered today they now have no kingdom behind them. Samurai was the pillar of virtue, the most selective kingdom. So we didn't pick up enough trash to have enough members to satisfy you? Fine. Let the kingdom be inhabited with trash like Dustari. Because the moral makeup of samurai is now the same as Dustari, it doesn't matter what it looks like or what the names are, it is Dustari, plain and true.

[Kasuagi]

wow, this is getting pretty good

*grabs some popcorn and hits refresh*

[IceHawk]

Dante, that "spirit" died long ago, sadly.

[FatherDante]

In you, maybe, IceHawk. But we had just finally reached the point I'd been hoping for: the point where there was not a single weak point in the kingdom. Nobody asked the samurai what they wanted, they just whiped it out and started over! In effect, Samurai has been destroyed, and replaced with a new kingdom in the same level of the name "samurai."

[Lugie]

Originally posted by IceHawk
Dante, that "spirit" died long ago, sadly.

Because people abandoned us.

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by FatherDante
A monarchy with a selfish and immature king, that's a good replica of Dustari. Members who want royal titles, that's a good replica of Dustari. If you wanted to "save" Samurai, congratulations, because you saved the population of a GUILD TAG! But if you wanted to kill the samurai spirit we were founded on, congratulations, because you succeeded in that also. Saved us? Tell that to the 5 or so true samurai who discovered today they now have no kingdom behind them. Samurai was the pillar of virtue, the most selective kingdom. So we didn't pick up enough trash to have enough members to satisfy you? Fine. Let the kingdom be inhabited with trash like Dustari. Because the moral makeup of samurai is now the same as Dustari, it doesn't matter what it looks like or what the names are, it is Dustari, plain and true.

I just lost any respect I had for you, Dante. By calling my Kingdom trash, my members trash, six months of long, hard work trash, you have severed ANY friendly ties you might have had with me.

I am not selfish. I may act immature at times, but I am not selfish. Neither is Wing. Wing may be more immature than me, but he is younger than me is well. Would you prefer someone who is in college to have the throne, Dante? The fact that Wing is similar to me in some ways does not make Samurai a replica of Dustari.

Any member of any Kingdom with Royalty wants a Royal Title. It's a fact of life, human greed, and it cannot be denied. Saying that that makes Samurai a replica of Dustari is rubbish.

I want to save the Kingdom Samurai, yes. I could give a damn less about "Samurai Spirit", because, quite frankly, in the past couple weeks, there has been little or NONE that has showed itself. I wanted to give Samurai a chance at rebuilding itself, no matter what the cost, and I have succeeded and I am happy with myself for that. I know that I have made some people happy and brought another chance for a faltering entity.

Yes, it may have been a Kingdom of Virtue, the "Pillar" as you say, a selective Kingdom. But that doesn't mean it is GOOD, Dante. If I had not done what I did, someone, someday, would invade Samurai and your Kingdom of Virtue would be reduced to NOTHING. This way, it has a chance at survival.

There is no "moral makeup" of Samurai, because there are few, if any, new members yet. How can you make such assumptions? The fact that you call my entire Kingdom trash is absolutely preposterous, rude, and, to put it bluntly, stupid.

Samurai and Dustari are nothing alike. Not in name, not in makeup, in no way are they alike, other than the fact that they are Kingdoms.

[SabreKnot]

*lightens up the mood of the thread*

[Kasuagi]

one thing we know for sure. samurai will never be the same kingdom guild it was

[TrueHeaT]

Dante's right enough as usual.

[Kasuagi]

Originally posted by SabreKnot
*lightens up the mood of the thread*

mmm, yummy goblin

you could cut the tension in this thread with a knife

[Lugie]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Dante's right enough as usual.

Come back TrueHeaT, we need you now more than ever.

[SabreKnot]

Hrm, I dont have a knife... but I have a big cleaver! Why dont we discuss this over Zor... I mean salmon

[FatherDante]

I've said my peace.
Talk won't change history, and I'm content to let the kingdoms go their own way. I made a mistake in trying to estalish a kingdom based on morals: as I told Lugie, it is relient on their being people of morals to constitute it.
Why worry? All I lost was something that I thought, at a time, I could use to spread values. Now I see my mistake, and am content to carry my virtues on my back instead of sharing them with others.

[Birdbird_0]

Ok dante enough, Samruai was taken over because you did jack **** for it besides sit around and antagonize the players and let it die slowly, if you don't want to rp don't bring it down for the other players, we chose to pick the new leader rather than just change the flag and give it to wing, end.

[Kasuagi]

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Ok dante enough, Samruai was taken over because you did jack **** for it besides sit around and antagonize the players and let it die slowly, if you don't want to rp don't bring it down for the other players, we chose to pick the new leader rather than just change the flag and give it to wing, end.

ouch, that's going to leave a mark