Dictatorship Or Democracy?

[Torankusu]

Simply put, if you are ever in a leadership role and everyone is happy to have you there --- you are overlooking crucial parts of your duties, and probably not doing as well of a job as you should be.

It is more common than not that real leaders will have to make unpopular decisions for the betterment of whatever they are working on.

[BrentWood]

Well Praise Koho for breaking the silence. I believe players of Era have been silenced and mistreated for far to long. To be honest PRA's seem more for banning sprees rather than helping players. The last thing we need is another Godzilla.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by BrentWood

Well Praise Koho for breaking the silence. I believe players of Era have been silenced and mistreated for far to long. To be honest PRA's seem more for banning sprees rather than helping players. The last thing we need is another Godzilla.

Overused jokes aside, If Era's staff can be better with communication towards its player base, then they wouldn't have these kinds of issues potentially popping forward.

[Tim_Rocks]

I think we can all agree that players shouldn't be able to decide anything more than what gun they use.

[BrentWood]

Well that's the wrong mindset time =l. I think most staff fail to realize this caught up in power/rights. What is a game without players? Without players why would era continue making new content? You're essentially saying; "We're are going to improve on so to try and improve the player count" yet you don't want to consider anything the players want. Their you're key to success =P.
Sooner or later players will start to rebel and sooner or later they will stop playing because they have no say in making there experience better. I think people like Zao fail to realize this because they've been in power so long. I don't even think zao knows what it feels like to be a 'player' any more...

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by BrentWood

I think people like Zao fail to realize this because they've been in power so long. I don't even think zao knows what it feels like to be a 'player' any more...

He lost a betspar to me (3-0) like a month ago for the Manager position, but there wasn't a PR present so it didn't count.

He used to be better than me at sparring, this statement is therefore true.

[fowlplay4]

Tim_Rocks for manager

[Eclipse]

lol @ democracy

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Eclipse

lol @ democracy

A guy like you wouldn't have the slightest idea what it even means.

Been reading through some comments as i'm limited on time at the moment.

I guess some good points has came from this thread and things can be taken from it. As a player you try and speak up and help the community out and you get back-lashed from idiots like this, trying to better the game experience.

Absolutely clueless.

I think we can all agree that some changes can be made. Like some of the ones previously discussed. I even got told by an admin that "Zao is a facist, he doesn't and wont have a co-manager, because he doesn't want a threat to his position, he is german afterall" Those were the words. I disagree because like i said Zaos a friend and listens when you put across your points but obviously there's some tension building up in there somewhere.

This thread wasn't and isn't to bash anyone. I believe era's future lies within ALL of our hands, not just staff. We all play a huge part. This is why we need to get along.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

This thread wasn't and isn't to bash anyone. I believe era's future lies within ALL of our hands, not just staff. We all play a huge part. This is why we need to get along.

Of course it's in everyone's hands, but you can't expect everyone to be aware enough or care enough to do it, so it's people like yourself that have to voice yourself, but only the management of the game (as in staff) are the ones who actually have the power to make that change.

Sorry, but your own thread makes it blatantly aware just by it's title that more of the issue lies within who runs it then the players that inhabit it.
I understand the thread isn't meant to bash, attack or mud-sling towards anyone or any particular group, I merely input my opinion just because you asked for the question.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Of course it's in everyone's hands, but you can't expect everyone to be aware enough or care enough to do it, so it's people like yourself that have to voice yourself, but only the management of the game (as in staff) are the ones who actually have the power to make that change.

Exactly why i want to give the players more influence & pressure on staff to get the changes they want.

Welcome to = Democracy.

[Eclipse]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Exactly why i want to give the players more influence & pressure on staff to get the changes they want.

Welcome to = Democracy.

more like demoCRAZY

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Exactly why i want to give the players more influence & pressure on staff to get the changes they want.

Welcome to = Democracy.

I know what Democracy is, but you realize most of the players don't care to actively voice themselves when put on the line other than to complain about a negative issue. Pressuring the staff doesn't mean they'll do the job better, it just means they'll be more pressured. Staff have to learn how to communicate better with players and construct a better social structure in which a form such as Democracy can actually hold its ground in the game's design, which takes a lot of planning, time and experimentation for Era in its current state, because Democracy is about talking about both the positive and negative on-goings within the system it's there for to properly handle it the way as many of the active participants can be happy with.

[BigMonster]

I don't have enough time to show all the mistakes in here, so I picked 4

Originally Posted by Supaman771

He used to be better than me at sparring, this statement is therefore true.

However I did win this Ironman and I have positive gang stats.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

This thread wasn't and isn't to bash anyone. I believe era's future lies within ALL of our hands, not just staff. We all play a huge part. This is why we need to get along.

All that I ever done and pretty much all other developers is too WORK like real work just without the payment part. I did alot of things even when I had barely time or no interest in doing them, just for the players.

Originally Posted by Rave_J

If you guys want change on era then everybody just quit and go play another server until they want to listen to you guys.

This will just lead to less development because the only motivation to develop is to make players happy, but if nobody plays then nobody will do anything.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

I even got told by an admin that "Zao is a facist, he doesn't and wont have a co-manager, because he doesn't want a threat to his position, he is german afterall" Those were the words.

This is either sarcasm or pure racism? However since the topic is about dictatorship I will still answer.
I didn't have a Co-Manager because I had 2 Server Admins already, which is pretty much the same as Co-Manager.
Was or is Era a dictatorship? I was able to do anything at anytime without fearing consequences BUT I always discussed topics with others before doing them. Thats the point.
Every (major) decision was discussed and NOT just a random thought from me.
HighCouncil: Ice, Blu, Alf, Amsel, Name (Atleast 3 were asked for every big topic).
Additional consultants: Seth and exceptional PKers for gang related stuff and Loga for player related stuff.
-> Era was definitly no dictatorship in the last 9months.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by BigMonster

I don't have enough time to show all the mistakes in here, so I picked 4


However I did win this Ironman and I have positive gang stats.


All that I ever done and pretty much all other developers is too WORK like real work just without the payment part. I did alot of things even when I had barely time or no interest in doing them, just for the players.


This will just lead to less development because the only motivation to develop is to make players happy, but if nobody plays then nobody will do anything.


This is either sarcasm or pure racism? However since the topic is about dictatorship I will still answer.
I didn't have a Co-Manager because I had 2 Server Admins already, which is pretty much the same as Co-Manager.
Was or is Era a dictatorship? I was able to do anything at anytime without fearing consequences BUT I always discussed topics with others before doing them. Thats the point.
Every (major) decision was discussed and NOT just a random thought from me.
HighCouncil: Ice, Blu, Alf, Amsel, Name (Atleast 3 were asked for every big topic).
Additional consultants: Seth and exceptional PKers for gang related stuff and Loga for player related stuff.
-> Era was definitly no dictatorship in the last 9months.

Like i said, it didn't come from me. It came from one of your admins. Was was only repeating what he told me.