Windows v6 beta test - Page 25

Admins · #1 05-07-2011, 10:47 PM

Graal v6 (on Windows) is now available via Start->Install Packages on the login server, it is also able to update itself automatically now when we release a new version. This version is not bringing new features compared to the version from last weekend, except the version number and update functionality.

Rufus · #2 05-07-2011, 11:09 PM

Can you make the nicknames and chat on the Windows client display in bold? Every other client is okay, and I've posted this a fair few times now.

kia345 · #3 05-08-2011, 05:24 PM

I use the numpad to move, but every time I log on I have to reset the keys because it won't let me walk downwards with 5, what do

Jiroxys7 · #4 05-08-2011, 11:49 PM

Few RC suggestions...

1. When you click near a "(", ")", "{", or "}", it usually highlights the opposite one, however, if there are too many lines between it and the closing bracket, it will not be highlighted when you scroll down to find it. This can make the following situation very frustrating:

2. In long functions with a bit of nesting, if there is not a matching "}" for a "{", you will get the message "Script Compiler output for <scriptname>: error: unexpected token: at line <line>" It's easy to spend close to an hour trying to seek out where the "}" needs to go in such scripts. Is it possible to get a message that points out which opening bracket is missing it's closing bracket?

fowlplay4 · #5 05-11-2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiroxys7

2. In long functions with a bit of nesting, if there is not a matching "}" for a "{", you will get the message "Script Compiler output for <scriptname>: error: unexpected token: at line <line>" It's easy to spend close to an hour trying to seek out where the "}" needs to go in such scripts. Is it possible to get a message that points out which opening bracket is missing it's closing bracket?

This is a problem best solved by proper styling/indentation not the compiler.

alskdjfhg · #6 05-12-2011, 08:39 PM

"Graal6Setup.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." When I try to install the latest version of V6

fowlplay4 · #7 05-12-2011, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alskdjfhg

"Graal6Setup.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." When I try to install the latest version of V6

Rename it to Graal6.exe (or whatever really), and put it in it's own folder.

alskdjfhg · #8 05-12-2011, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Rename it to Graal6.exe (or whatever really), and put it in it's own folder.

Thanks

PhilSmith · #9 05-14-2011, 03:38 AM

what exactly did you end up renaming it? Im having the same problem

fowlplay4 · #10 05-14-2011, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilSmith

what exactly did you end up renaming it? Im having the same problem

I've named it Graal, Graal_, GraalV6, etc. You might be experiencing a different problem though.

Masa · #11 05-16-2011, 08:29 PM

Just updated to the newest V6 beta.
It looks like I am unable to view the playerlist. As seen in the screenshot the active window is the playerlist, however nothing shows.

Running on Vista Home Premium 32Bit

Tigairius · #12 05-16-2011, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masa

Just updated to the newest V6 beta.
It looks like I am unable to view the playerlist. As seen in the screenshot the active window is the playerlist, however nothing shows.

Running on Vista Home Premium 32Bit

This is a strange problem some people are experiencing. We're looking into how to fix it right now. In order to fix it for now though, open your Graal folder, go to scriptfiles/playerlistoptions.txt and delete the entries of: lastwindowx, lastwindowy, lastwindoww, and lastwindowh. Then start Graal again.

Tricxta · #13 05-17-2011, 02:12 AM

playerlists work fine on win7 64 bit

WarLord2004 · #14 05-17-2011, 11:24 AM

Windows 7 - Ultimate (64 Bit)

Seems normal to me so far no issues and working playerlist

WarLord2004 · #15 05-19-2011, 02:40 AM

Hmm well since i been using v6 first time i closed it in almost 3-4 days i have used v6 before but on a older pc.

Anyways i closed the client to turn my system off giving her a days rest so i decided to load it back up last night and started graal but notice nothing happened. So i quickly decided to Alt Tab to check my processes and saw nothing running related to graal.
However i rename the client.exe thinking it was trying to merge with my old graal client.
It worked
But then i closed it again to try it with the same rename name i used and it didn't load at all so i renamed it again and it works?
Tried it about 4-6 times always has to rename it?

Anyways not sure if this been reported before but just letting you'll know.

Umat · #16 05-19-2011, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarLord2004

Hmm well since i been using v6 first time i closed it in almost 3-4 days i have used v6 before but on a older pc.

Anyways i closed the client to turn my system off giving her a days rest so i decided to load it back up last night and started graal but notice nothing happened. So i quickly decided to Alt Tab to check my processes and saw nothing running related to graal.
However i rename the client.exe thinking it was trying to merge with my old graal client.
It worked
But then i closed it again to try it with the same rename name i used and it didn't load at all so i renamed it again and it works?
Tried it about 4-6 times always has to rename it?

Anyways not sure if this been reported before but just letting you'll know.

I've actually had this problem on several beta releases. After a while the executables just won't work. I save all of the beta's in the same directory and rename them according to version-number just to be able to compare. Now 1 out of 5 or 6 isn't starting properly. It is running as a task in the background but doesn't show up on the desktop.

I'm running Win 7 64bit home professional on this computer with Microsoft's own anti-virus checker.

Admins · #17 05-19-2011, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow

Bringing this up again. I'd like a statement from you, Stefan, on this issue.

GUI controls have integer coordinates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umat

It is running as a task in the background but doesn't show up on the desktop.

Some older v6 released for Windows had the problem that they were not closing correctly, it should be fine now.

Admins · #18 05-19-2011, 04:19 PM

Might be some weird anti-virus checker or so?

MrOmega · #19 05-20-2011, 03:17 AM

If your GUI involves a decimal from calculation and straight programming just put it in int();

DustyPorViva · #20 05-20-2011, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrOmega

If your GUI involves a decimal from calculation and straight programming just put it in int();

That's silly, not to mention how many old scripts will be broken.

Crow · #21 05-20-2011, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

That's silly, not to mention how many old scripts will be broken.

My point exactly.

Edit: There seems to be some bug with stretching/mirroring sprites in ganis. The gani in question is at_sword.gani on Atlantis, where I'm mirroring all the sprites for direction 3 (facing right) to flip the image so it's correct for stuff like axes (asymmetrical weapons). This basically works, but sometimes just stops working. I haven't figured out which causes it yet, but it seems to be completely random anyway, especially after a long time of being online. A client restart fixes this. Only affect the mirrored sprites, the others work.

Crow · #22 05-29-2011, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow

There seems to be some bug with stretching/mirroring sprites in ganis. The gani in question is at_sword.gani on Atlantis, where I'm mirroring all the sprites for direction 3 (facing right) to flip the image so it's correct for stuff like axes (asymmetrical weapons). This basically works, but sometimes just stops working. I haven't figured out which causes it yet, but it seems to be completely random anyway, especially after a long time of being online. A client restart fixes this. Only affect the mirrored sprites, the others work.

Update on this issue: when changing the window size, it stops working. You can try this on Atlantis. Face right, slash, see some pretty swords, resize the Graal window, slash again, see nothing (when facing right). This also hides some polygons for whichever reason.

Edit: Window size only, even! Changes to the size of GraalControl don't cause the problem.

Admins · #23 05-22-2011, 01:00 AM

A new version 6.001 has been released, it will automatically install if you had the previous version, otherwise download it with Start -> Install packages -> Graal v6 -> Install on the login server.

Updates:
- the main window remembers the position now
- the GuiWindowCtrl.externalwindow receives events for onMove and onResize (use catchevent(externalwindow, "onMove", "myOnMove"))
- Font Tempus Sans ITC (tempsitc.ttf) is displayed with a bold effect to more match v5
- emitter.forceaboveterrain = true/false for enforcing that particles don't fall below the terrain

Note: a new Mac/Linux version will be delayed until the auto-update has been tested

DustyPorViva · #24 05-22-2011, 01:14 AM

The new bolding looks blurry to me:

v5:

Click image for larger version

Name: graal_1306019438.png
Views: 2285
Size: 99.6 KB
ID: 52917

v6:

Click image for larger version

Name: graal_1306019296.png
Views: 2287
Size: 114.2 KB
ID: 52916

It seriously(really, seriously) looks like something that would give me a headache looking at, because it looks out of focus.

Admins · #25 05-22-2011, 01:29 AM

Are you sure that you are using the same font size on both (defaultfontsize, 24) ?

DustyPorViva · #26 05-22-2011, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

Are you sure that you are using the same font size on both (defaultfontsize, 24) ?

If it's loading from preferences like it should be, yes. I logged off of v6 and right onto v5, and didn't change anything.

Rufus · #27 05-22-2011, 12:43 PM

24 seems a lot larger than it usually is, and it does seem to get blurry the lower/higher you set it. The bolding looks different, but I can live with that.

Unkownsoldier · #28 05-23-2011, 01:16 AM

If anything v5 looks more blurry to me o.o

DustyPorViva · #29 05-23-2011, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

If anything v5 looks more blurry to me o.o

Not sure how you can end up seeing that, even if you zoom in on the v6 you can see most of the text isn't crisp compared to the v5 text.

oo_jazz_oo · #30 05-23-2011, 03:38 AM

The new v6 text is so blurry...I opened my inventory and was like, "Whoa".

I could barely read the text! Its bold, but blurry...

Admins · #31 05-24-2011, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

The new v6 text is so blurry...I opened my inventory and was like, "Whoa".

I could barely read the text! Its bold, but blurry...

Screenshot?

oo_jazz_oo · #32 05-29-2011, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

Screenshot?

Click image for larger version

Name: v5.png
Views: 3121
Size: 15.5 KB
ID: 52946

Thats how it looks in v5.

Click image for larger version

Name: v6.png
Views: 3116
Size: 17.2 KB
ID: 52947

And thats it in v6.

Same settings. I logged off v6 and logged straight into v5 for the screenshots.

alskdjfhg · #33 05-29-2011, 03:11 AM

So, hows it coming along?

fowlplay4 · #34 05-29-2011, 04:59 PM

Sounds like you guys just want the text to be sharper. I still think it's really ridiculous how much this new font rendering has screwed up basically causing everyone to fix anything font/text related.

Blew up the image for some good ol font analysis.

All fonts appear to be inheritly bold, and a few sizes bigger than their V5 counter-part.

WhiteDragon · #35 05-29-2011, 06:15 PM

It's pretty clear to me what's happening with the fonts. The new rendering just doesn't use font hinting (aligning the font with the pixel grid so it doesn't look 'blurry') at all, or doesn't apply it as much. Windows is notorious for using a huge amount of font hinting, and often ruining fonts as a consequence. Mac on the other hand is much less extreme about it. I imagine the v6 fonts would match up with how Mac renders fonts decently well. This is really a matter of taste.

I don't know why things are changing size though, that should be fixed.

fowlplay4 · #36 05-29-2011, 10:19 PM

GMAPs don't render properly at extreme resolutions. I.e: 3840x1080

Admins · #37 05-29-2011, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

GMAPs don't render properly at extreme resolutions. I.e: 3840x1080

Screenshot?

Quote:

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

Attachment 52946
Thats how it looks in v5.

Attachment 52947
And thats it in v6.

Same settings. I logged off v6 and logged straight into v5 for the screenshots.

Ok in the next version it will render the Tempus Sans ITC as bold font for nick names and chat, but normal (slim version) in the weapon menu.

Crow · #38 05-29-2011, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

Ok in the next version it will render the Tempus Sans ITC as bold font for nick names and chat, but normal (slim version) in the weapon menu.

How about bold for nicks and chat and "normal" for everything else?

DustyPorViva · #39 05-29-2011, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

Screenshot?

Ok in the next version it will render the Tempus Sans ITC as bold font for nick names and chat, but normal (slim version) in the weapon menu.

It's still blurry for nicks and chat though.

oo_jazz_oo · #40 05-29-2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

It's still blurry for nicks and chat though.

This. It looks the same for nicks, and showtexts(). (Altho, it seems to not be as bad when using showtext(), that might just be me tho lol)

The text just isnt crisp like it used to be...it just seems slightly blurry.

Also: If you have client-rc opened, and have it as the active window; when you open the player list, it closes immediately.