Vista Final

gx_staff5 · #1 12-12-2006, 05:33 AM

Vista Final Version 6 (6000)

Randomly crashes GraalOnline every 10-20 seconds; This is the error I get from Vista error reports. I've sent quite a few to microsoft lol.

Quote:

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Graal4.exe
Application Version: 4.1.1.0
Application Timestamp: 2a425e19
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6000.16386
Fault Module Timestamp: 4549bdf8
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0003b867
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.6
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: c453
Additional Information 2: abcc8f7853b48d9807d6d51eb1fa5df9
Additional Information 3: c453
Additional Information 4: abcc8f7853b48d9807d6d51eb1fa5df9

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 357075564

I have about 100+ of these errors and this is always the error that occurs when Graal crashes.

CheeToS2 · #2 12-12-2006, 05:57 AM

I can log on and play with RC1, but Graal4 often crashes with that exact error randomly.

gx_staff5 · #3 12-12-2006, 06:13 AM

Gah, Its probally something to do with Vista hopefully Stefan will patch graal to be compatible with Vista. I think Vista launch date is end of January, Hopefully it can be fixed before or by then so when people upgrade to Vista or new users jump into Graal with vista they can actually play.

gx_staff5 · #4 12-12-2006, 09:39 AM

This may be one issue; Vista uses NTDLL Version 6.X; and all other Windows OS seem to use a NTDLL Version 5.X; Could there be an incompatibility?

Admins · #5 12-12-2006, 10:41 PM

Something in the windows library yes, hard to know what is causing it. Might check Vista sometime in January, right now we don't have any copy of it.

gx_staff5 · #6 12-13-2006, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

Something in the windows library yes, hard to know what is causing it. Might check Vista sometime in January, right now we don't have any copy of it.

Get the RC1 then. Has the same core librarys as my final copy of it.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...y/preview.mspx

RC1 Trial is Valid till June2007.

*Update:

After talking to CheeToS it is not the exact same librarys the major version 6.x is the same but the minor version 6.0.6000.XXXXX is different but the librarys probably still function very similar if CheeToS also experiences the same problem I do.

Admins · #7 12-17-2006, 06:12 AM

RC1, RC2 and RTM are quite different. Also we don't have the time before christmas. Even half of the Microsoft products don't run on Vista right now.

ReBorn_Spirit · #8 12-17-2006, 08:27 AM

It's probably the same error reason you get for XP x64, I just cant find the crash log.

It seems to be some odd error, probably in the microphone/sound files for graal. But I could be wrong.
I can get a somewhat stable graal window when I launch the Teamspeak client, to further stabilize it, I need to run about 5 other programs dealing with sound or video, sometimes even IE7 does the trick.

Admins · #9 12-17-2006, 02:31 PM

But disabling the sound doesn't help in that case?

ReBorn_Spirit · #10 12-19-2006, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

But disabling the sound doesn't help in that case?

I do not believe that disabling the entire sound system will help any, it still loads the 32 bit dll's.

Inverness · #11 12-17-2006, 09:50 PM

Pac can't post at the moment because of password problems, so i'm doing it on his behalf.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pacMASTA

No even when i get a soundtestes file that says it disables all sound , I open up my options once i joined a server and all bars are all the way down but. After so many things play sound example; so many sword swings etc; Once you hit this limit of audio things it will crash. On vista it helps me to have GW and WoW runing besides the extreme lag and yes I need both so its semi - stable; without it, it only lasts about 2minutes then crashes.

Admins · #12 01-08-2007, 09:45 PM

I have attached a new Graal4.exe (v4.207) to this post. The only modification is that the sound library has been updated. Please check if this is working better.

Crow · #13 01-08-2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

I have attached a new Graal4.exe (v4.207) to this post. The only modification is that the sound library has been updated. Please check if this is working better.

Want a download link to test Graal with Vista?

D4rKv310c1ty · #14 02-04-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow

Want a download link to test Graal with Vista?

Are you sure you're not talking about a BETA version or the RC1 release?

CheeToS2 · #15 01-09-2007, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

I have attached a new Graal4.exe (v4.207) to this post. The only modification is that the sound library has been updated. Please check if this is working better.

Since the last update, Graal has been crashing for me in Vista before I get a window with this error:

Exception EAccessViolation in module AcLayers.dll at 0001172E.
Access violation at address 7445172E in module 'AcLayers.dll'. Read of address 00000010.

Before the last update it would crash randomly, which I think your new exe might help with.

ReBorn_Spirit · #16 01-10-2007, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

I have attached a new Graal4.exe (v4.207) to this post. The only modification is that the sound library has been updated. Please check if this is working better.

(Windows XP x64 Graal4.exe test)
That exe does make a difference, it actually loaded without Teamspeak client running. Though it might be a glitch still from me running my processor up to about 95% inuse before I launched graal before, I will post any changes if any after a restart.

**Graal4.exe still difficult to launch.

Elizabeth · #17 07-07-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

I have attached a new Graal4.exe (v4.207) to this post. The only modification is that the sound library has been updated. Please check if this is working better.

i cant even click start now , and oh btw everytime i exit my graal, a message pops up saying " Runtime Error 216 at 00005C26"

Admins · #18 01-09-2007, 12:25 PM

So is this version changing something for you?
Did you try Graal in compatibility mode or so?

CheeToS2 · #19 01-09-2007, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

So is this version changing something for you?
Did you try Graal in compatibility mode or so?

It worked somewhat before the last global update, then I started getting the AcLayers.dll error. In other words, the most recent update that all players received caused another problem with Vista. Because of that error, I can't see if the version you posted here fixes the problems from the version before the global update. I am betting if the AcLayers thing is fixed, sound will start working

It is running in compatibility mode, yes.

CheeToS2 · #20 01-31-2007, 11:04 PM

MS released a new Application Compatibility Toolkit to evaluate compatibility with Vista yesterday. It can be used in Win2k and WinXP

Not sure if it is of any use, but here it is:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...playlang=en%20

Admins · #21 01-31-2007, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeToS2

MS released a new Application Compatibility Toolkit to evaluate compatibility with Vista yesterday. It can be used in Win2k and WinXP

Not sure if it is of any use, but here it is:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...playlang=en%20

That program is more for checking if the installed programs are known to work fine after OS upgrade / Windows update. It is not checking for bugs or so in the program or OS itself.
We will try to test Graal soon on Vista.

Mog · #22 02-04-2007, 07:05 AM

we need a Windows Vista compatible Graal client right away. Compatibility is set to "Windows XP (Service Pack 2)" and everytime the Graal client is run, it goes through its usual auto update and once the Download Progress is at 100%, an error message is displayed on the screen:

Login
Access violation at address 6CFD1826 in module 'AcLayers.dll'. Read of Address 00000010.

I randomly get booted off the Graal client, but one thing that does close the Graal client is if you press Alt+2 to try and take a screenshot. Sometimes double-clicking on toall messages will boot me out of the Graal client too. Graphics seem ok, except for when you press the Tab button to show the text box.

Oh btw, my Windows Experience Index base score is 4.1 out of 5.

Admins · #23 02-04-2007, 04:15 PM

You downloaded the latest version of Graal? It should not auto-update in that case. Also the aclayers.dll thing was eventually caused by the sound library in the old Graal version, so it might work better with the latest version.

Mog · #24 02-04-2007, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

You downloaded the latest version of Graal? It should not auto-update in that case. Also the aclayers.dll thing was eventually caused by the sound library in the old Graal version, so it might work better with the latest version.

i have version 4.0.2.7; the client tries to update itself evertime I log into the server.

other problems include being sometimes booted off the client if I try to read PM's and when I try to download additional files such as the Level Editor, I get booted off the Graal Client too.

Admins · #25 02-04-2007, 07:25 PM

Current version is 4.208, download it from the website. That should fix the update problem, for the other things you will need to wait until we have fully tested and fixed Graal for Vista.

Mog · #26 02-05-2007, 08:08 AM

i'm also missing a few folders in the Graal folder. the only folders i see are:

languages3D
levels
levels3d
sounds

I'm pretty sure there are more folders (and files) such as "PM" and "Profiles", etc... when I try to read a PM, i get booted off the Graal Client, so i can't read any PM's from anybody and it doesn't save any PM's anywhere on the hard drive. Also, one thing i noticed was that sometime I get hurt in NON-PK areas and I don't get hurt in a few PK areas on Vista (I'm not at 100ap). I don't know what the deal is, but the new version 4.2.0.8 seems a little more stable, but i still get randomly booted off the Graal Client.

Mog · #27 02-05-2007, 08:29 AM

Access violation at address 0040F310 in module 'Graal4.exe'. Write of adress 00000000.

CheeToS2 · #28 02-05-2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mog

Access violation at address 0040F310 in module 'Graal4.exe'. Write of adress 00000000.

Should also mention that this happens when you try to open PMs :P

Rufus · #29 02-06-2007, 06:29 PM

Yeah, I was silly enough to buy and upgrade to Windows Vista Ultimate today much to the warning of Crono, but I'm having all of these problems too.

Crono · #30 02-06-2007, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus

Yeah, I was silly enough to buy and upgrade to Windows Vista Ultimate today much to the warning of Crono, but I'm having all of these problems too.

Atleast your desktop is pretty now. :P

JkWhoSaysNi · #31 02-06-2007, 08:31 PM

I dont have that problem.. but whenever updateboard() is called, it causes very strange graphical errors.

CheeToS2 · #32 02-07-2007, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JkWhoSaysNi

I dont have that problem.. but whenever updateboard() is called, it causes very strange graphical errors.

Are you using the 32-bit version of Vista?

And does anyone who uses the 32-bit version get errors when trying to read PMs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by D4rKv310c1ty

Doesn't the XP tools work on Vista? :O

RC2 works (except for freezing while it connects to the npcserver), RC1 has problems displaying text. Graalshop works, and I haven't tested the level editor.

Rufus · #33 02-07-2007, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeToS2

And does anyone who uses the 32-bit version get errors when trying to read PMs?

Yep, I do.

D4rKv310c1ty · #34 02-07-2007, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus

Yeah, I was silly enough to buy and upgrade to Windows Vista Ultimate today much to the warning of Crono, but I'm having all of these problems too.

Doesn't the XP tools work on Vista? :O

Mog · #35 02-12-2007, 08:35 PM

same problem too reading PMs. and im using the 32-bit version rather than the 64-bit and i guess i got banned on the forums for a while for posting graal errors huh?

Admins · #36 02-16-2007, 01:03 AM

Ok dokey
Please everyone who has Vista try following:
Rename Graal4.exe to a filename with at least 9 characters before the dot (e.g. Graal4bla.exe) and then start it and try to open the PMs.

Minoc · #37 02-24-2007, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

Ok dokey
Please everyone who has Vista try following:
Rename Graal4.exe to a filename with at least 9 characters before the dot (e.g. Graal4bla.exe) and then start it and try to open the PMs.

Didn't help :[

CheeToS2 · #38 02-24-2007, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minoc

Didn't help :[

Did it still crash with an error, or just show a blank PM window and freeze? If the latter, disable HTML in PMs.

Minoc · #39 02-24-2007, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeToS2

Did it still crash with an error, or just show a blank PM window and freeze? If the latter, disable HTML in PMs.

#1
Sometimes it doesn't crash at all, it's just stuck as an invisible process.

Devil · #40 02-16-2007, 01:12 AM

I open Graal, and that error won't disappear.

I can't retrieve my password from my email account because the server is too busy, so I'll try the PM's later.

If I change Graal to GraalBlah.exe, I do not receive that error anymore.