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View Poll Results: Classic Server should..?
be left as it is. 4 6.15%
bring back it's original levels and hit detection. 51 78.46%
bring back ONLY the original levels but leave the hit detection as is. 1 1.54%
bring back ONLY the original hit detection but leave the levels as is. 9 13.85%
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:58 PM
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You are taking this personally as if it's an attack on you as a person. Master Storm did too at first. This is not a blow at anyone, it's a chance for progress. Look at the poll results. The interest is there. Stay focused on the issue at hand. The HD.
changing the hd 6 times is not what i call progress
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:12 PM
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You are taking this personally as if it's an attack on you as a person. Master Storm did too at first. This is not a blow at anyone, it's a chance for progress. Look at the poll results. The interest is there. Stay focused on the issue at hand. The HD.
I'm taking nothing personally at all. I was doing a summary of the multiple threads regarding the state of Classic over the years. I'm also not having a global burnout. I currently only have two servers wanting drastic changes made. My exhaustion limit is 4. Thats when pissy Bell comes out.
The Masterstorm comment was only put in as this is the traditional next step of the process each time a poll is put up. As will be the blaming of my interference in Classic's issues. People just haven't got there yet.

I would like to thank you for your support to me as a global. I was unaware you were the cause of my gaining this status. All this time I thought it came solely from Lyndzey and Ibonic, but I digress.

In regards to hit detection. I believe I did touch on that without using those exact words. Quite a few developers have offered their help yet quickly realized they were in too deep and left. Unless you actually scripted for Classic you wouldn't understand that the movement and HD are intertwined.
They can be seperated on a small scale as has been done with a few of the spars but for pking in general its far more complicated. This happens to be the current issue being discussed between Thor and Storm. Each method requires different actions regarding what the development team focuses on and what staff qualifications are required. Obviously this is not something visible to average players, hence the feeling that nothing is being done.
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I'm taking nothing personally at all. I was doing a summary of the multiple threads regarding the state of Classic over the years. I'm also not having a global burnout. I currently only have two servers wanting drastic changes made. My exhaustion limit is 4. Thats when pissy Bell comes out.
The Masterstorm comment was only put in as this is the traditional next step of the process each time a poll is put up. As will be the blaming of my interference in Classic's issues. People just haven't got there yet.

I would like to thank you for your support to me as a global. I was unaware you were the cause of my gaining this status. All this time I thought it came solely from Lyndzey and Ibonic, but I digress.

In regards to hit detection. I believe I did touch on that without using those exact words. Quite a few developers have offered their help yet quickly realized they were in too deep and left. Unless you actually scripted for Classic you wouldn't understand that the movement and HD are intertwined.
They can be seperated on a small scale as has been done with a few of the spars but for pking in general its far more complicated. This happens to be the current issue being discussed between Thor and Storm. Each method requires different actions regarding what the development team focuses on and what staff qualifications are required. Obviously this is not something visible to average players, hence the feeling that nothing is being done.

A few things:

1. Yes, my disappointing Ex GM Asst and I had Lynzdey hired back in '02 or '03 and we spoke about making you a global. That shouldn't come as a surprise.

2. In regards to the work needed for Classic; Rome wasn't built in one night.

3. I was successful with Shaded Legend for some time because I had a STRONG team and they had good leadership.

4. We knew what the big picture was and we worked as a team. Classic needs the same.

5. I'm not saying the current team is not good, but they need more help. There have been a few volunteers.

6. This is just the first step, and the first obstacle is convincing the current staff what the players want in the content. HD.
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Oh and your opinion is any better then mine Rufus? just because you have 3,100 posts doesn't make you have any more significance
The fact that I have actually played Classic makes much more significance. You have never.
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The fact that I have actually played Classic makes much more significance. You have never.
I was not a regular player you are right, I rarely logged on it. The vote isn't whether or not people who voted play/played Classic. The poll represents current/future players who would play if it was fixed. I don't see the correlation of you trying to bash another player for your 3,102 post. They are not going to give you a E-Medal for Graalonline Forum posts.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:02 PM
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I only have to repeat myself because you are too slow to contemplate whats been said the first time. I don't waste my life on the forums like you, I actually play the game.
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I was not a regular player you are right, I rarely logged on it. The vote inst whether or not people who voted play/played Classic. The poll represents current/future players who would play if it was fixed. I don't see the correlation of you trying to bash another player for your 3,102 post. They are not going to give you a E-Medal for Graalonline Forum posts.
You were asked to come on and vote in a poll that you know very little behind aside from the fact that Unholy Nation has default hit detection. That just goes to show that this thread isn't really about what people want, it's about what they think they want or what they friends want. I could have asked my friends to come and vote whatever and would I have then been able to pull the poll results card? No, because the poll isn't a true reflection of the question nor the answers that it is hiding behind.
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Oh and your opinion is any better then mine Rufus? just because you have 3,100 posts doesn't make you have any more significance
yeah, 3100 posts of harassment and negative comments.
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yeah, 3100 posts of harassment and negative comments.
Better than 83 posts of repeating myself
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Better than 83 posts of repeating myself
I only have to repeat myself because you are too slow to contemplate whats been said the first time. I don't waste my life on the forums like you, I actually play the game.

And you actually "PLAY CLASSIC" huh? yeah right, everytime I've ever seen you around, you're talking trash on graal just like you do on the forums...either that or you're idling. Please.....
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If anything, we need to gather anyone willing who can start to make a default system compatible with Classic's current systems.

But we still need to work on other problems as well (tickets, quests, prizes, card game, other content projects, etc.)

Can most of us agree on this?
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How do you know what I want or what I know....3,103 posts your going strong
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How do you know what I want or what I know....3,103 posts your going strong
How can you want something back that you never even played on in the first place? Not very logical there, and that is how I know.
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If you learn to read you wouldn't have to type so much. I admitted to not being a active regular player, that does not mean I never played Classic. The topic is Hit Detection and Levels. Not hard to logically want the better of the two back. 3,104 no stopping you.

If anything you should be supporting us, when they fix the HD and people log on Classic again you will finally be able to rant and argue with people. You won't have to come on the Graalonline Forums and make 3,105 negative posts
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If you learn to read you wouldn't have to type so much. I admitted to not being a active regular player, that does not mean I never played Classic. The topic is Hit Detection and Levels. Not hard to logically want the better of the two back. 3,104 no stopping you.
look , npulse has default hd and i dont see any dam players log to pk !
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