Custom or default

[Remonq]

why do people insist on making these redundant threads?

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Yeah, you have.



There's stuff like this all over the place.

Originally Posted by ffcmike

I don't recall ever setting out to make a set of custom systems with the goal of completely replicating Default,
I had taken bits and pieces out of the current systems and replaced them with mechanisms similar to Default but that is a completely different process.

Originally Posted by WhiteDragon

Rather than arguing about the HD I would suggest waiting for the newer one to be released which should feel more like the default

Where does it say that we're going to attempt to build a full set of custom systems with the intention of emulating Default?
Rather than replacing one single mechanism within Custom Systems not designed for that purpose for determining whether the player has been hit by another player with a mechanism also used in Default?

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

There are endless possibilities,
for instance, you may want a normal Default like movement as regular player movement but with the ability to easily apply additional modes such as running, slipping on ice, opposite walking, no damage recoil movement, double damage recoil movement etc.
Can't say it's impossible to do such things with Default but they tend to require messy hacks as there are limited controls, or by disabling Default temporarily you'd be relying on a Custom input anyway.

Default also limits you on the basic variables such as HP, Bombs, Arrows etc,
as far as recent tests on Dev show (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong) you can't properly give players more than 12 hearts, or more hearts than their normal heart limit, AP restrictions apply all the time and can prevent full heals, Saints can't be hurt in levels where you'd want them to be hurt etc, all somewhat important things for events, sparring, pking and there's just so many things which require tampering with and you end up spending more time on it.

so rather than making small edits at a time with the default system, you are going to script an entirely new system and then make small edits on that once you need them? that sounds like a waste of development time, since i don't see the difference if the custom is going to be "classic" but scripted

how is your scripted system going to differ from the default one, if at all?

[ffcmike]

The difference between Custom and Default is that while we might want to make it feel like Default first and foremost, the potential is there to improve certain areas of it, if not adjust areas to suit the needs of any type of content that might require different player manipulation.
With a decent setup this can be accomplished much quicker than working with Default in the long run.

[Terazel Tenjin]

WHERE IS YIN YANG IN BOX?

**** it, I'm going over to G2K1.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Terazel Tenjin

**** it, I'm going over to G2K1.

That's Bomy Island to you.

[Bell]

The system will be a documented custom system that for the long term goal is a more efficient way to go.

[maximus_asinus]

We're just going to get another version of what we already have. Default is the best way to go, it would attract far more developers, and would avoid confusion for future generations. If this were the best route, wouldn't Stefan force something like this for every server?

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

We're just going to get another version of what we already have. Default is the best way to go, it would attract far more developers, and would avoid confusion for future generations. If this were the best route, wouldn't Stefan force something like this for every server?

agreed

not to talk about the poll results >.<

[Nabru]

Originally Posted by Pelikano

agreed

not to talk about the poll results >.<

I hold you directly responsible for forced customization.

[Luda]

[Mark Sir Link]

fung si picard

[Nabru]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

fung si picard

Of the U.S.S. Classic-A 2000-2004

[DarkCloud_PK]

this isn't going to happen right with the current management the way it is.

[Nabru]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

this isn't going to happen right with the current management the way it is.

I tried to tell Bell that today, but I was swiftly dismissed

[xnervNATx]

*facepalm*

[LordSquirt]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

*facepalm*

thats a cool sig

[xnervNATx]

ya

[maximus_asinus]

I don't think Storm would be doing the facepalm though. He and Thor would probably be making out after suggesting they go with custom.

[xnervNATx]

i see. so interesting

[Nelm]

Well, there went any chance the server had of being revived.

[Terazel Tenjin]

Let's be optimistic here. At least, uh, there are still developers working for Classic? I don't know, I'm pretty bad at this. But it's okay, Bell will take care of business for free.

[mistral_007]

Originally Posted by Terazel Tenjin

Let's be optimistic here. At least, uh, there are still developers working for Classic? I don't know, I'm pretty bad at this. But it's okay, Bell will take care of business for free.

Yea she will hold the torch close to their asses...

[Nabru]

Originally Posted by mistral_007

Yea she will hold the torch close to their asses...

Too bad they've been wearing flame-retardant suits the past 4 years.

[Umat]

[MysticX2X]

[Ares]

expect classic to have another ****ty playercount with custom

[DarkCloud_PK]

i just want custom nicks wtf

[ff7chocoboknight]

20 is the default limit for hearts. Although, I can't really think of a good reason for going over--let's say--10.

[BlackSolider]

Too many hearts = insanely long, difficult, and probably impossible-to-finish ctf games.

[MysticX2X]

You can set events at a heart cap.

[BlackSolider]

Too many hearts = spars going too long + runners being even more annoying.

[MysticX2X]

nobody said we were going to have 20 hearts + there is a lvl 3 and 4 swords ya know.

[BlackSolider]

Nobody said we weren't either :O