4 Years of being stagnant - Page 2

DarkCloud_PK · #1 02-15-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oni

Bomy is kind of a UC SERVER?
maybe if the server was live such as Classic, there would be more motivation to put out work.

There isnt very much more motiviation left. Until recently anyway.
Bottom line is, things really don't matter until they're completed and released.

Oni · #2 02-15-2009, 10:46 PM

Trust me i bet Rufus would much rather manage classic over bomy island if he got the chance.

Remonq · #3 02-15-2009, 10:46 PM

rufus has a very destructive nature about him. classic would suffer more under him and that's not what we need

Oni · #4 02-15-2009, 10:51 PM

ranger get real

Remonq · #5 02-15-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Oni

ranger get real

i don't mean he likes to delete files randomly off servers oni. it's his nature that i'm talking about. Rufus is very good at controlling people and telling them what to do. however, he is somewhat of a manipulator and people see through it eventually. those people that do, he ends up hindering and through that hindrance comes very little progress and a loss of support overall.

Rufus · #6 02-15-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

i don't mean he likes to delete files randomly off servers oni. it's his nature that i'm talking about. Rufus is very good at controlling people and telling them what to do. however, he is somewhat of a manipulator and people see through it eventually. those people that do, he ends up hindering and through that hindrance comes very little progress and a loss of support overall.

He's right you do need to get real, unless you're going to throw some examples. I don't want to work on Classic, but I'm glad someone finally posted this comment for Thor so it can be addressed nicely

Oni · #7 02-15-2009, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Remonq
i don't mean he likes to delete files randomly off servers oni. it's his nature that i'm talking about. Rufus is very good at controlling people and telling them what to do. however, he is somewhat of a manipulator and people see through it eventually. those people that do, he ends up hindering and through that hindrance comes very little progress and a loss of support overall.

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Ranger maybe he is a manipulator and all. But doesnt meen thats always a bad thing, all of you who hate him think ANYONE WHO REMOTELY likes him or is his friend, is just under some kind of mind control.
Seriously some people just agree with rufus, and im partly one of them. I dont 100% agree with everything rufus has to say, but I would sure as hell put him as DEv admin or even manager. I would see progress and a fresh classic.
Your oldbie mentality is what got classic to were it is AFTER npc server

Rufus · #8 02-15-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oni

Ranger maybe he is a manipulator and all. But doesnt meen thats always a bad thing, all of you who hate him think ANYONE WHO REMOTELY likes him or is his friend, is just under some kind of mind control.
Seriously some people just agree with rufus, and im partly one of them. I dont 100 percent agree with everything rufus has to say, but I would sure as hell put him as DEv admin or even manager. I would see progress and a fresh classic.
Your oldbie mentality is what got classic to were it is AFTER npc server

No no you changed completely when you met me. We don't argue all of the time on AIM about ideas, you listen to everything I have to say, and you act to how I want you to act now. You don't have a brain of your own anymore Oni, so your comments are pretty much void.

Remonq · #9 02-15-2009, 11:18 PM

precisely what i was talking about

Rufus · #10 02-15-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

precisely what i was talking about

LMAO. caps

Oni · #11 02-15-2009, 11:21 PM

please globals, please get rid of master storm, please.
I have had so many conversations with him, and it seems that he doesnt even want to be classics manager, hes just full of excuses and has other things to do.
Just help classic out please.

Rufus · #12 02-15-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

no i'm serious, anyone who disagrees or threatens you, you break down and discredit. and then of course, you get your lackeys to back you up

Example? Oh and why did you suddenly find this forum again and start posting?

Remonq · #13 02-15-2009, 11:22 PM

no i'm serious, anyone who disagrees or threatens you, you break down and discredit. and then of course, you get your lackeys to back you up

Remonq · #14 02-15-2009, 11:25 PM

suddenly? because i'm concerned about classic. please, i'm far too concerned with more important things than you.

DarkCloud_PK · #15 02-15-2009, 11:29 PM

lets try to concentrate on the issues concerning classic and not rufus.

Remonq · #16 02-15-2009, 11:31 PM

thank you dc, you're right

Rufus · #17 02-15-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

suddenly? because i'm concerned about classic. please, i'm far too concerned with more important things than you.

You have the audacity to come onto these forums out of nowhere and claim that I manipulate breakdown and discredit people while getting my friends to back me up, while you were given the link to this thread for a reason and can't even support what you're saying? It is pretty obvious that you were told to post, and the content that you are posting has been sent to me quite a few times and they've all come from one person who has been saying it. It is ironic that you make a claim that I am the one who manipulates people into supporting me, while you're doing exactly the same for someone else. The hilarious thing about it is I've never asked anyone to post something for me, because I am very capable of supporting myself.

Cut the crap because what you're posting is far too obvious, and if you actually do care about Classic then post about it.

Remonq · #18 02-15-2009, 11:35 PM

i was given a link, shown the thread, and that's all. i wasn't told to post, i wasn't fed any lines like you would like to think. i do care about classic, and you NOT being manager or admin is critical. that's all i was posting about

DustyPorViva · #19 02-16-2009, 01:41 AM

Master Storm is a huge problem for Classic. I hated working under him, and I really wanted to help Classic but after working under him I gave that up.

Thor is a hard-working developer, but he has a hard time taking criticism, and his stuff shows it.

-Ramirez- · #20 02-16-2009, 02:01 AM

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I hated working under him, and I really wanted to help Classic but after working under him I gave that up.

I'm pretty sure this was a huge part of what made me stop a long time ago as well.

xnervNATx · #21 02-16-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Thor is a hard-working developer, but he has a hard time taking criticism, and his stuff shows it.

can you exactly tell me what you mean by "his stuffs" if we get back to xaphan post you can see he made nothing but uploaded pre-made npc made months ago.

DustyPorViva · #22 02-16-2009, 07:44 AM

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can you exactly tell me what you mean by "his stuffs" if we get back to xaphan post you can see he made nothing but uploaded pre-made npc made months ago.

Thor is the one doing the hit detection, the baddies and such.

xnervNATx · #23 02-16-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Thor is the one doing the hit detection, the baddies and such.

ok about the hd , no one like it but i can understand that
about the baddy , with this new hd you can clearly see baddy hit you more than before if you try to use your sword . its almost impossible to dodge them if they come 4-5 on you . on the defaulthd you could take about 10-11 at time.

maximus_asinus · #24 02-16-2009, 02:12 AM

What exactly did Storm do to make you feel that way?

-Ramirez- · #25 02-16-2009, 03:09 AM

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What exactly did Storm do to make you feel that way?

In my case, it was partially the fact that Stefan just put him there out of absolutely nowhere from my perspective. It was rather insulting. Also, I do seem to recall frequent disagreements, but it was so long ago that I don't know for sure.

DustyPorViva · #26 02-16-2009, 02:27 AM

Well first off he was NEVER there. He gave me NO assignments, NO rights. I wanted to rescript the default map for him, he told me it wasn't needed. So he didn't even give me the needed rights(I couldn't upload images, I had only access to one NPC to script). After a couple months of getting help from BELL, I finally just quit with nothing accomplished. I couldn't do anything and he was never around nor told me anything to do. Months later, lo and behold he allowed someone else to rescript the map.

maximus_asinus · #27 02-16-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Well first off he was NEVER there. He gave me NO assignments, NO rights. I wanted to rescript the default map for him, he told me it wasn't needed. So he didn't even give me the needed rights(I couldn't upload images, I had only access to one NPC to script). After a couple months of getting help from BELL, I finally just quit with nothing accomplished. I couldn't do anything and he was never around nor told me anything to do. Months later, lo and behold he allowed someone else to rescript the map.

Don't you think these are issues the LAT Admin should be dealing with?

DustyPorViva · #28 02-16-2009, 02:40 AM

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Don't you think these are issues the LAT Admin should be dealing with?

What does the LAT admin have to do with anything?
And no, MS does nothing else, least he can do is actually manage the staff.

Rufus · #29 02-16-2009, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

What does the LAT admin have to do with anything?
And no, MS does nothing else, least he can do is actually manage the staff.

There wasn't a LAT or Development Admin when you were staff.

maximus_asinus · #30 02-16-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

What does the LAT admin have to do with anything?
And no, MS does nothing else, least he can do is actually manage the staff.

It seems like all the stuff you mentioned would be the responsibility of the LAT Admin, not the Manager (we must have very different thoughts on what the Manager does on a server).

DustyPorViva · #31 02-16-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

It seems like all the stuff you mentioned would be the responsibility of the LAT Admin, not the Manager (we must have very different thoughts on what the Manager does on a server).

Why would the LAT manager be in charge of assignments and rights of a scripter? What should a manager do? A manager manages the server, that includes the staff and all content on it.

Bell · #32 02-16-2009, 05:53 AM

I think Dusty was there between dev admins but normally on Classic it would of been the dev Admin to give him rights. Thor was working there then but doing more GC related things I believe. Each staff division is under the direction of their Admin with Manager mostly just making sure everyone is doing their jobs and supporting them when needed.

And when all else failed they came to me as Dusty said. I'm a Bell of all trades.

maximus_asinus · #33 02-16-2009, 08:02 PM

Yeah, I am going to agree about the HD. I was in a LMS a few days ago and I clearly hit two or three people but because they were moving away from me it didn't count as a hit. At one point I swung, missed my intended target, but another player walked into me midswing and I killed them.

Crimson2005 · #34 02-16-2009, 08:09 PM

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Yeah, I am going to agree about the HD. I was in a LMS a few days ago and I clearly hit two or three people but because they were moving away from me it didn't count as a hit.

Yes, that is my biggest grievance about the HD. I wish they'd just use an HD that works instead of messing around with everything, I'm not really arsed about whether it is clientside or whatever. Just use something that ****ing works, this does not work. It's not a case of adjusting this either so don't think it is...

Ares · #35 02-16-2009, 09:02 PM

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Yes, that is my biggest grievance about the HD. I wish they'd just use an HD that works instead of messing around with everything, I'm not really arsed about whether it is clientside or whatever. Just use something that ****ing works, this does not work. It's not a case of adjusting this either so don't think it is...

time to bring in the old faithful default hd

Rufus · #36 02-16-2009, 10:39 PM

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time to bring in the old faithful default hd

If the default hit detection was used then the majority of what Classic has would be wasted. A big example would be the events, which were mainly built around the serverside hit detection. People enjoyed Classic's events and their fairness, some even said they were the best on Graal at the moment, and they will always be used to keep the server alive. With a change to clientside or default hit detection however, they are never going to be as fun as they were like you've already said.

Ares · #37 02-16-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

If the default hit detection was used then the majority of what Classic has would be wasted. A big example would be the events, which were mainly built around the serverside hit detection. People enjoyed Classic's events and their fairness, some even said they were the best on Graal at the moment, and they will always be used to keep the server alive. With a change to clientside or default hit detection however, they are never going to be as fun as they were like you've already said.

classic is doomed

DustyPorViva · #38 02-16-2009, 08:31 PM

Apparently they were given the original numbers(used in default) for the HD that Stefan used but they didn't implement them. I could be wrong, though.

Ares · #39 02-16-2009, 11:44 PM

now that i've finally played with this HD, i actually like it.. it's a lot more accurate then the previous one imo

xnervNATx · #40 02-17-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ares

now that i've finally played with this HD, i actually like it.. it's a lot more accurate then the previous one imo

that not true , that NOT accurate at all.