Scamming illegal? - Page 2

LordSquirt · #16 01-19-2009, 07:31 PM

It's the sign of the apocalypse if a GP actually takes the time to check logs!!

DarkRenji · #17 01-19-2009, 11:17 PM

How will you guys go about the USDers now?

They sell a guy a item, then claim they were scammed

LordSquirt · #18 01-19-2009, 11:43 PM

"It is VERY important that if you are involved in a drop trade, and you are unsure of the other person, you PM a GP to come watch. Otherwise if you give someone your gun, we have no way to prove he scammed you and that you didn’t simply give it to him and suddenly regret it. It is their word against yours. However, if we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the scam DID occur, your items will more than likely be restored."

There needs to be actual evidence a scam took place. If there is none then we can not do anything. Even though scamming is illegal now we are always warning the players to PM a GP just in case to watch a trade. If someone USD's and claimed they were scammed they actually need proof as well. We can not judge one persons word about a situation.

CharlieM · #19 01-20-2009, 12:47 AM

So if you want to lend an item you can get a GP to watch it?

xJenn · #20 01-20-2009, 12:53 AM

CharlieM · #21 01-20-2009, 12:56 AM

Sounds like fun what happens if the person you lent it to gives it back and runs to another GP claiming that you scammed them and the other GP that watched the trade was helping you scam them.

Freudian_slip · #22 01-20-2009, 01:00 AM

Have someone run logs, duh.

CharlieM · #23 01-20-2009, 01:01 AM

Ya but didn't someone say something about GP's having to check logs be the apocolypse or something? I had been pushing for era to check logs more often but they never did

LordSquirt · #24 01-20-2009, 01:37 AM

I was saying old staff members didn't check logs. However, if you need to find an item feel free to PM me and I should be able to trace it.

Bell · #25 01-20-2009, 02:02 AM

For the record, and because I suspect this is going to be tried. Don't expect them to be looking up something that happened days or even weeks ago and getting everything undone. Thats being entirely unreasonable to ask. If you are scammed then complain in a timely manner or you are out of luck.

xJenn · #26 01-20-2009, 02:31 AM

As bell said, I know staff have probably dealt with people who report a week/month later after there scams. It does get stupid >>;

salesman · #27 01-20-2009, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

I was saying old staff members didn't check logs. However, if you need to find an item feel free to PM me and I should be able to trace it.

Oh please...you were around to watch every staff member and their activity, right?

CharlieM · #28 01-20-2009, 03:55 AM

I'm preeetty sure sales used to check logs because he was able to tell me the last time I had accessed my bank account on there when it had closed and how much I had had

salesman · #29 01-20-2009, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieM

I'm preeetty sure sales used to check logs because he was able to tell me the last time I had accessed my bank account on there when it had closed and how much I had had

I wasn't really talking about me, but yea, I used to check a lot of logs.

Bell · #30 01-20-2009, 04:02 AM

Many people were willing to check logs for things. Its just there was no standard practice of it always being done or never being done when it came to scamming. I believe the point here that is being made is it will now be standard practice at all times. Sales was actually good about checking on things but scamming was legal then so unless it was as exceptional case such as involving a staff member, it wasnt' necessary to look.