Vanir's Hollow needs to be set the way it was.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Y You guys have managed to find bugs and exploit them, and most of you have been trying very hard to keep it to yourself so they don't get patched. If we're going to make GK better then I will need your help, not some shady, quiet community trying to hide glitches and exploit them to their full advantage.
I'm pretty disappointed with quite a few people as a result of this mishap, I've lost some respect with a few people. Chances are if you planned to exploit this bug, I know about it and I am disappointed with you. You guys are supposed to be my team, helping me forge GK in to something you want to play. We're all friends here, let's face it. We've been playing with each other for years, even if we all don't get along all the time, we're still friends. We're a community.

I would like to point out the fact that the GK rules say:

Have you found a bug? Bugs happen, and if you can enjoy it then we honestly invite you to - just let us know. You are welcome to enjoy the fruits of your labor so long as they do not become a threat to the entire community - but always let us know when something unintentional is occurring.

So I do believe that they have a right to exploit it seeing as you say it yourself in the very rules that they have a right.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

So I do believe that they have a right to exploit it seeing as you say it yourself in the very rules that they have a right.

Certainly they do, as long as they report it. I obviously can't stop people from exploiting bugs but I can encourage them to report them to me without punishment. Read my post about the part that says 'keeping it quiet'.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Certainly they do, as long as they report it. I obviously can't stop people from exploiting bugs but I can encourage them to report them to me without punishment. Read my post about the part that says 'keeping it quiet'.

Oh I did, but I believe that the person in question more than told you about it, so I do believe you have no right to be upset at him, said person could of continued without telling you.

[Tigairius]

I have adjusted the exp on all of the vanir monsters again.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I have adjusted the exp on all of the vanir monsters again.

It might be a good idea to do something about the people who go into the Crypt, beat everyone except Kvasir, and then leave, wait an hour and a half during which time nobody else can use the crypt so that they don't have to wait 24 hours to do it again.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Googi

It might be a good idea to do something about the people who go into the Crypt, beat everyone except Kvasir, and then leave, wait an hour and a half during which time nobody else can use the crypt so that they don't have to wait 24 hours to do it again.

As far as i know these parties get kicked when they have not been in the crypt for a set amount of time if i recall correctly. And they receive less EXP for the most part (at higher levels) killing the 3 groups and then leaving at Kvasir *and coming back*, so let them continue *if this is true, its their loss.*

[Googi]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

As far as i know these parties get kicked when they have not been in the crypt for a set amount of time if i recall correctly. And they receive less EXP for the most part (at higher levels) killing the 3 groups and then leaving at Kvasir *and coming back*, so let them continue *if this is true, its their loss.*

I don't care about people going in, killing everyone except Kvasir, to get more exp/because they think it gets them more exp. I care about their parties keeping a hold on the crypt for an hour and a half after they leave.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Googi

I care about their parties keeping a hold on the crypt for an hour and a half after they leave.

I'm still not sure what you mean by that, that shouldn't be a problem.. ?

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I'm still not sure what you mean by that, that shouldn't be a problem.. ?

I told you in our PMs that I wasn't entirely sure how people do it, but I've seen it done. I think it might be possible that you can leave the crypt, or maybe leave only one person in the crypt, when Kvasir is out even though you can't during other times. I haven't seen it done since Saturday so if you've changed something about how people are removed from the Crypt since then, it might no longer be a problem.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Googi

I told you in our PMs that I wasn't entirely sure how people do it, but I've seen it done. I think it might be possible that you can leave the crypt, or maybe leave only one person in the crypt, when Kvasir is out even though you can't during other times. I haven't seen it done since Saturday so if you've changed something about how people are removed from the Crypt since then, it might no longer be a problem.

Ah, that makes more sense.

[FenixTheBanished]

Wow, once again you nerfed the zombies and made Vanirs Hollow absolutely useless with zombies that give 409 EXP in bmode @ lvl 55 phys. Good job, once again Vnirs isnt accomplishing what it was supposed to do and I once again will not step foot into there. Good Job.

[Tigairius]

This discussion is pointless. Closing this.
There are reasons for lowering the experience. If you notice, the rest of the zombie's stats have also been lowered and they're much easier to kill. Now, if you have further problems, then feel free to contact me calmly and politely in private.