Limit the use of spell scrolls? (More people vote please)

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by cyan3

I hate money bugs now the price of dia has went up to 1500 plat each since people have lots and lots of plat from the bug and i can't buy any now.

I guess you didnt play to that time, ppl made k's of plat by putting stuff on trade tables, setting a very high price, removing the trade table and alching the remaining goods.
Everytime they did they got thousands of plats in big gold nuggets, which were just sold in any npc-shop then.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Darklux

I guess you didnt play to that time, ppl made k's of plat by putting stuff on trade tables, setting a very high price, removing the trade table and alching the remaining goods.
Everytime they did they got thousands of plats in big gold nuggets, which were just sold in any npc-shop then.

Yes but the new Bug was kind of the same thing.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Well people didn't complain to me about that before

Not? Then you just ignored it.

If iam not wrong, I was one of the people who reported it on debug back then, you announced a plat reset.

Anything happened? No - probaply fear to loose old players with rare items.

Iam still asking myself why Era has still players though it got constant resets?
It's not dead - 68 ppl atm - why should GK die when something like this happens? To put it in a nutshell: According to the reset-death theory Era should be leveled, gone, a myth or legend. Fun fact that its still on the playerlist, whatever.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Sam

I think there should be a limit because of the regulation of skills and power. What's the sense of different levels, if you can become level 110 in a few hours.

Getting to level 110 almost entirely through mental leveling gets you pretty much nothing except HP.

A better way to do this would be to limit the supply of level 107 scrolls by putting a limit on how many scrolls a person can write per day or something. People who want to level their mental for alchemy can use heavy rods or something.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Googi

Getting to level 110 almost entirely through mental leveling gets you pretty much nothing except HP.

A better way to do this would be to limit the supply of level 107 scrolls by putting a limit on how many scrolls a person can write per day or something. People who want to level their mental for alchemy can use heavy rods or something.

A good point!

[Admins]

Darklux why do you quote the same message several times? Gets confusing.
Era has lost players each time it got reset, but often players came back or new players came because new stuff has been added and the staff works hard to get more players.
When there were problems on Graal Kingdoms we have first fixed the problem and then tried to punish the people who have abused it, like earlier this month when several people have been banned and several houses cleared.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

On GK here, people quit bascially when they loose their hard earned items. If anyone really wanted a reset, the only way would be a partial reset with just the levels being started over. No skills or items lost, just the experience counters.

The only problem with a public pole like this, is that not everyone agrees that we should fix a bug like these scrolls. Some of the better people can see how it would affect game balance, but those that just love to abuse it and make money from it, will obviously vote to keep it in place.

[hampy]

Don't reset anything on GK, that is the wrong thing to do. If you want more people to keep playing the only way to do that is to add lots of new content AND add lots more craftable items, but they must all be new items not craft old items that will just destroy the economy which is already fragile. So basically, we need more stuff to be added and more new items to be made easily craftable, I know this has been suggested many times before but its the best option

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by hampy

Don't reset anything on GK, that is the wrong thing to do. If you want more people to keep playing the only way to do that is to add lots of new content AND add lots more craftable items, but they must all be new items not craft old items that will just destroy the economy which is already fragile. So basically, we need more stuff to be added and more new items to be made easily craftable, I know this has been suggested many times before but its the best option

Good idea, adding new things is better than changing old stuff.

[Gambet]

GK is not fun anymore for those that weren't around to abuse any of the leveling bugs, mostly the physique bugs.

It's just not very possible to level up your physique to a high level anymore now that the bugs have been fixed, thus it's impossible to catch up with the old players that have abused bugs to get where they're at.

I think it's too late for this to take effect, the server is already screwed up. A reset would be the only thing to make things fair, but that would cause people to quit, so there's not much you can do at this point.

Lack of updates has completely destroyed GK, and made it impossible for the newer players to ever stand a chance against the strong, older players.

Scrolls are currently the only thing that would at least allow the newer players to reach level 110, with 107 mental, which of course does you no good except for HP, but at least it's something.

[kia345]

i say it stays the same, why change something now?

[Crow]

Lol, Stefan. First, I complained about Graal itself earlier. Its just a piece of **** since v4, buggy movement, etc. But oh well, off topic.
Second -> You try to punish them? How the hell if you dont even have any things proven? What about a roll back if something like that happens? Dont even think about it right now, its already too late. But I guess it would be best to just reset Graal Kingdoms, take it off for a few weeks and fix the main problems...

Originally Posted by Stefan

Darklux why do you quote the same message several times? Gets confusing.
Era has lost players each time it got reset, but often players came back or new players came because new stuff has been added and the staff works hard to get more players.
When there were problems on Graal Kingdoms we have first fixed the problem and then tried to punish the people who have abused it, like earlier this month when several people have been banned and several houses cleared.

Haha, what are you trying to say? That you wont reset GK because there is neither new stuff nor hard working staff?

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Originally Posted by kia345

i say it stays the same, why change something now?

Because what is left of GK is getting damaged by bugs and abuse of bugs. Obviously we need to change a few things to rebalance out the game and get things back to the point were GK is a decent server to play again.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Darklux

See the furniture trade table bug years ago?

The thousands of plats people gained were never removed, not even by a money reset or anything.

And its always the same when problems like these turn up.

Resets to fix economy problems are a BAD idea.
The only time a server should have a reset is when a major new feature is coming in that requires everyone to start over so everything can be enjoyed the best. Only then do people accept the need for a reset.

[Admins]

Why is everyone speaking of a reset? That is absolutely not an option, there are enough things which can make Kingdoms fun and which we work on, although I must admit that it is sometimes slow to make updates. The new player vs player modifications could make it more interesting to do spars and kingdom wars.