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Old 04-23-2006, 05:56 PM
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:34 AM
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but as the last guy who posted said..it doesn't take 1 year to make...NOTHING.
Mind you, theres a whole lot of nothin' out there on Graal. So who knows, maybe it does take time to make nothing?

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Old 04-24-2006, 02:36 AM
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not to mention they were offered coded bombs and arrows to work with default movement when NPC-Server Classic was released.
Uh... no. That's 100% false. We've enever been given any such offer.

New hit detection is needed because of the need to move to serverside hit detection. I've gotta say this whole story is getting boring, and I'm tired of giving the same old answers, which everyone then ignores.
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Old 04-24-2006, 03:01 AM
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Uh... no. That's 100% false. We've enever been given any such offer.

New hit detection is needed because of the need to move to serverside hit detection. I've gotta say this whole story is getting boring, and I'm tired of giving the same old answers, which everyone then ignores.
100% true to be accurate. I offered both to Racil AND Selflon.


What need is there to serverside hit detection? Believe it or not, client HP edits the same using the built in movement.
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Old 04-24-2006, 03:07 AM
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What need is there to serverside hit detection? Believe it or not, client HP edits the same using the built in movement.
More secure, gives better overall lag performance. Behaves more fairly to players (ie: being extra laggy is not an advantage). Also brings it inline with how most online games work.
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Old 04-24-2006, 05:48 AM
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I hope it is true that Malinko got the go ahead to make a converted Classic.
I dont know what this means but if you have to ask yourself "Did malinko" and "Get the go ahead" along with "To do anything with any playerworld" the answer is usually yes.
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Old 04-24-2006, 07:40 AM
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Graal doesn't care what you like, since about 4-5 years ago.
Actully graal stop caring when they hit Compile Code, and uploaded it to graalclassic.com Oh god how i miss graalclassic.com Why cant we bring that back have paying people play on graalgold.com and maybe pick 2 servers such as Unholy Nation (Since theirs tons of trials) and Classic (MAYBE SOMONE WILL PLAY IT) and make that total Free to play via graalclassic.com version of the Graal client
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Old 04-24-2006, 08:21 AM
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That's why I gave up and changed the name to Graal: The Adventure. If I had my druthers I'd continue my offer to let anyone who thought they could do better try it - you either
A) freeze it in carbonite as The Perfect Version, that time between 1.38 and 1.39a or Way back before 1.26 or whatever (in which case people complain in fact you have the WRONG version and you suck for not uploading their house) OR
B) you start with a version you like and add to it (in which case EVERYONE complains Classic was never like that, and by the way won't you please upload their house)

I been there the other day. It ain't great, and I think it was foolhardy to bring back the old tileset and delete all these things my team spent so many hours working on in the first place just so a new team can spend hours working on it again, but I seen the plan - it looks solid. It isn't The Adventure yet, nor is it Classic, but it will be The Adventure again. And when it is, I'll be on the petition to make it the official free-newbie server, even if nobody else likes that theory. One server where newbies can save a minimum of information (I looked over the old script - if it saved King Tristam's two-digit int variable, the rest could be extrapolated from that) and paying clients can save every last detail...but I digress.

Yeah, Classic needs work. Mark, you probably DID try and send 'em the scripts, but as a former LAT admin, we've NEVER been humble enough to let other people do our jobs. It took me 3 years before I'd accept Kyle0654's Bank Card script, (and when it broke and he vanished I was SOL...)
so yeah. And now they're getting the quests back up. Recoding baddies from the ground up with a custom movement and a custom hit detection system - no small task - but I've looked it over and default ain't gonna cut it. Especially after making you all wait so long.
My point is, if you think you can do a better job of it, do a better job of it. Last check the LAT need help. Ask them for the hit methodology (which function to send and recieve), get a quest nobody else has touched, fix it and send it in. If you can do it without putting a personal touch on it (retiling EVERYTHING, etc) I authorize you to complain...everyone else, remember fondly that which can never be again.
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Old 04-24-2006, 06:30 PM
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Old 04-24-2006, 07:16 PM
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Old 04-25-2006, 03:00 AM
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i thought tyhm was spelled "Thym".
that's what it said in Thym's Quest entrance

but. i really hope they can bring the damn server back. the whole year they were working on that whack hit detection script. which totally sucks btw, can't even spar with it anymore. you kill yourself if you throw a bush to your right (if you had less than 1 heart of course....), also you can hit yourself with arrows and other things X_X.

but even if they do bring it upside down and make it all good, i don't think most players will be happy or even be around after waiting that long :|

but, i'm just hoping they release EVERYTHING soon. i don't want to wait another year to find out that massokres player movement and hit detection is different from ours, like what happened last year. or that they released another fake town with nasty tiles. like npulse or delteria..ewww....
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Old 04-25-2006, 03:42 AM
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If you guys are so dissatisfied about Graal now. TAKE ACTION so the future of graal will seem more... reasonable?
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:34 AM
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If you guys are so dissatisfied about Graal now. TAKE ACTION so the future of graal will seem more... reasonable?
You are the one me and Napo caught uploading RPG Maker Tiles and saying you made them.

On-Topic: I agree with Rabbit aka Seize (Alure1316) since Classic needs to shape up, really.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:03 PM
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:55 AM
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