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Old 07-04-2004, 07:57 AM
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The idea of hacking into something that your nosey little ass isn't supposed to be in is pretty bad.
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Old 07-04-2004, 08:33 AM
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The idea of hacking into something that your nosey little ass isn't supposed to be in is pretty bad.
Look it up, doofus. There exist a few valid definitions for the word 'hacker'.
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Old 07-04-2004, 10:59 AM
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:10 PM
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Look it up, doofus. There exist a few valid definitions for the word 'hacker'.
Oh please, lance, you'd better not be trying to use that to stick up for them.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hacker

Upon reading the whole page, i did indeed see various other definitions of "hacker". However, most of them were non-computer related, such as the thing about someone who's bad at golf. There were one or two ones that were like "someone who is 'buff' at computing" or something, listing a hacker to be somebody who is enthusiastic about computing and tries to learn more than the average computor - although this in itself connotes sinister activities, depending on how you look at it.

And then there's the very word itself. "Hack". It's almost onomatopoeic, and when you say "Hack" you're bound to think first of a rough swing of an axe or other blade at, say, a tree trunk, or a human. "He hacked away at the trunk" or "She hacked at his chest, screaming". The very word used to describe these people suggests a pernicious character, and you know full well, lance, that when these guys are saying "i hate those bastard hackers" they do mean the ones that are evil or vindictive. Why on earth would they be saying they hate people who are bad at golf in a thread about computer hacker/crackers?
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:31 PM
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Freak. The first computer related definitions of hacking have nothing to do with maliciousity, and even many of those you would call hackers are not as bad as you think.
http://catb.org/~esr/ has some nifty resources on that topic.
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Old 07-04-2004, 03:06 PM
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Oh please, lance, you'd better not be trying to use that to stick up for them.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hacker
There were one or two ones that were like "someone who is 'buff' at computing" or something, listing a hacker to be somebody who is enthusiastic about computing and tries to learn more than the average computor - although this in itself connotes sinister activities, depending on how you look at it.
I really don't see how it connotes sinister activity.
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Old 07-04-2004, 03:10 PM
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Old 07-05-2004, 10:27 AM
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Oh please, lance, you'd better not be trying to use that to stick up for them.
listen, doofus, I'm not sticking up for anyone but common sense

shadowless noted that the word has other valid meanings

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i noted the problem with his awesome plan of attack

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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hacker

Upon reading the whole page, i did indeed see various other definitions of "hacker". However, most of them were non-computer related, such as the thing about someone who's bad at golf. There were one or two ones that were like "someone who is 'buff' at computing" or something, listing a hacker to be somebody who is enthusiastic about computing and tries to learn more than the average computor - although this in itself connotes sinister activities, depending on how you look at it.

And then there's the very word itself. "Hack". It's almost onomatopoeic, and when you say "Hack" you're bound to think first of a rough swing of an axe or other blade at, say, a tree trunk, or a human. "He hacked away at the trunk" or "She hacked at his chest, screaming". The very word used to describe these people suggests a pernicious character, and you know full well, lance, that when these guys are saying "i hate those bastard hackers" they do mean the ones that are evil or vindictive. Why on earth would they be saying they hate people who are bad at golf in a thread about computer hacker/crackers?
how about understanding that a hacker can simply mean one who improves upon code and reading my post instead of telling me not to stick up for some group of people who I was unaware I was sticking up for

better yet how about just reading the thread
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:31 PM
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Lets not resort to name calling please, it isnt needed =/

Myukoi, hackers are not all bad....there are actually hackers that use what they can do for good. You just have a few that like to hurt others with their abilities, but you shouldn't make such a general statement as to say all hackers are bad (in so many words).
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Old 07-06-2004, 06:19 PM
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The damn media messes these names all up!
Hacker - A person that "hacks" for knowlege or to improve upon code.
Cracker - A person that "hacks" to do harm or cause panic.
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Old 07-06-2004, 08:10 PM
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The damn media messes these names all up!
Hacker - A person that "hacks" for knowlege or to improve upon code.
Cracker - A person that "hacks" to do harm or cause panic.
Yup, that was my understanding of it too, the basic principal anyway
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Old 07-06-2004, 11:08 PM
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Hacker did not mean breaking security. That is cracking, even if you do it for good purposes.
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