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[konidias]

Originally posted by Lance


Of course; it's just in very poor taste.

That's a matter of opinion, and I really don't value yours.

[haunter]

Originally posted by konidias


That's a matter of opinion, and I really don't value yours.

Now, now children, play nice. Don't make me get out the garden hose again.

[konidias]

Originally posted by haunter


Now, now children, play nice. Don't make me get out the garden hose again.

Eh, he's the one that likes to pick apart my threads and misinterprate everything, while trying to act like my father.

[haunter]

Originally posted by konidias


Eh, he's the one that likes to pick apart my threads and misinterprate everything, while trying to act like my father.

WHAT DID I JUST SAY?! *sprays you*

[Lance]

Originally posted by konidias


Eh, he's the one that likes to pick apart my threads and misinterprate everything, while trying to act like my father.

Misinterpreting it? Your statement was a joke made in poor taste. You assume that girls enjoy that kinda stuff. The simple fact is that while some girls may feel 'special' because the konidias made such a joke involving them (haha), others might simply take offense and not like people talking about having babies with them. When this is the case, it becomes sexual harrassment, which (in case you didn't get the memo) is bad.

And you complain about me criticizing you, when you've done so to me in the past? Quite hypocritical, Koni, quite hypocritical. ^_^

[Lyndzey]

Originally posted by Echoes
is she on vacation or someting? ive been trying to contact her, but to no avail. any information would be helpful.

I have actually been getting back a lot of emails saying the email does not exist. I don't know if people are having ISP problems or if something is wrong with my email service.

Plus I have been studying for finals a lot lately. Now that I go to a real college, I have to do some work :[

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by konidias
That's a matter of opinion

I'm forced to agree with Lance. Would you still consider it tasteful and amusing if somebody else were persisting in implying that every female Graal player wants to sleep with him?

[konidias]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I'm forced to agree with Lance. Would you still consider it tasteful and amusing if somebody else were persisting in implying that every female Graal player wants to sleep with him?

It wouldn't bother me at all, as it is none of my business. If the female Graal players play a part in the joke then I see no reason for it to be distasteful. I'm not even meaning it in the way you're portraying it in your mind.

I'm not trying to say I'm some stud and that girls need to really sleep with me. Do you see my avatar? Do you see what the guy has in the avatar? It's a baby. It's a joke about making babies on Oasis. I've joked with Angel about it, and Huru, and even other guys, so it's not like I'm doing it as a sexist thing... and none of them care at all. They even tend to joke about it when I'm not even doing it.

If you don't like the joke, that is your personal opinion. I for one, would not be getting up in other people's business, and making bold assumptions about what these inside jokes translate to. It's foolish and arrogant.

If you think I'm serious and that I am trying to sexually harass someone, you really need to loosen up.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by konidias
It wouldn't bother me at all

I didn't ask if it would bother you. Stop evading the question.

If the female Graal players play a part in the joke then I see no reason for it to be distasteful.

How does the 'joke' start? How do you ascertain whether or not the person is willing to be demeaned? Do you make the joke and then wait to see if they complain, or ask them beforehand if it's okay to make crude sexual references towards them? Should any person ever be put into either situation?

I'm not trying to say I'm some stud and that girls need to really sleep with me. Do you see my avatar? Do you see what the guy has in the avatar? It's a baby.

Y'know what else he has? It's a wink. Not a "hey, look at this phat baby" wink (because those don't exist), a "check it out, I banged a chick and spread my seed" wink. I actually like the avatar, as a reference to Oasis. But I didn't realise that it was a symbol of your faux sexual conquests.

I've joked with Angel about it, and Huru, and even other guys

Which brings me to the other point I wanted to raise. When you make this highly-dubious joke with a single person, that's bad taste. When you do it with everyone you meet, and in public? That's an obsession.

none of them care at all. They even tend to joke about it when I'm not even doing it.

Great, I'm glad they're not offended by it (or at least not enough to mention it). But I'm more concerned about those who don't like to be thought of in such a way, or who're offended by the attitude to females that you're broadcasting.

If you don't like the joke, that is your personal opinion. I for one, would not be getting up in other people's business, and making bold assumptions about what these inside jokes translate to.

Firstly, it's not a wild assumption. It's a calculated judgement.
Secondly, your intentions in the matter aren't particularly relevant. You might not think it's offensive, and you may not mean it in a sexual manner (at least, not consciously), but you're not the target of this stuff.

If you think I'm serious and that I am trying to sexually harass someone, you really need to loosen up.

Well, there's a bulletproof argument

[Darlene159]

Y'know what else he has? It's a wink. Not a "hey, look at this phat baby" wink (because those don't exist), a "check it out, I banged a chick and spread my seed" wink. I actually like the avatar, as a reference to Oasis. But I didn't realise that it was a symbol of your faux sexual conquests.

I was going to say something about this when Koni first posted about having babies with Lyndzey.
I agree with you on this one, I mean obviously when you ask someone to have your babies, it IS a sexual remark....
And the avatar, that says "making babies" with a wink, is quite clear.
It is very bad taste Koni, whether you think so or not....People are capable of reading between the lines
Not to mention that most of the people who play Graal are minors who dont need to be seeing Koni's sexual inuindo's (sp)
Think about it, Koni

[Echoes]

thank you lyndzey, some admin please close this topic, i dont want this becoming a flame topic about sexual harassment.

[konidias]

Okay, the first person that I make the joke towards that tells me to stop, I will. It's not like I'm harassing anyone about it.

The joke isn't an obsession, it's the same type of thing as the "omg kthnxdie" stuff. People get in the habit of doing it and it just becomes a common thing. I think it's rather sexist of you to single out women like they all think what I'm doing is wrong. People make jokes with other people all the time, not everyone is going to like the joke, including the person that the joke is about.

If it was so out of line I wouldn't have posted it. I didn't find anything wrong with it, and nobody has said anything about it until Tseng opened his big mouth.

You guys have a habit of totally blowing my threads out of proportion, and getting the wrong idea about a post. Dare I bring up the thread Stefan made in the playerworld forum about the profanity filter he made? I'm sick and tired of having my posts picked apart by you two, when you don't even understand the meaning behind the post. You just storm in and make assumptions and then when I explain myself, you just try to act as if your accusations were noble or something.

Again, you decipher things the way you want to. The avatar is winking because it's showing that babies will be available on Oasis. It wasn't my intention to have it mean anything else. Until the targeted individual points out that they do not like the joke I made towards them, and that it was distasteful, then please shut up. Because I don't really see the point in you even mentioning it if it's not offending anyone but yourself, and you're sitting here saying you're concerned about these people that aren't saying anything.

Please don't act as if you're the voice of justice, and that these people are just too afraid to come forward, or that I'm somehow cyber-molesting these people, or that they are taking offense to it. If they were, they would say something.

I don't see how you can say my intention had nothing to do with it. You're the one always throwing "context" in my face. This has nothing to do with my gender. If I was female, I'd make the same joke. I've had girls say I'm going to have their baby. Should I be offended? It's a joke. Now I'll make another old but seemingly popular joke: Did you miss the clue bus?

(OH HEAVEN FORBID SOMEONE ISN'T INTELLIGENT AND THEY TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT)

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by konidias
Okay, the first person that I make the joke towards that tells me to stop, I will. It's not like I'm harassing anyone about it.

No, because posting your sick 'jokes' on public message boards is... wait, no, that is harrassment.

The joke isn't an obsession, it's the same type of thing as the "omg kthnxdie" stuff. People get in the habit of doing it and it just becomes a common thing.

That's an item of vocabulary, a way of saying something that they'd otherwise say anyway. It's not the same thing as an obsession with impregnating everybody.

I think it's rather sexist of you to single out women like they all think what I'm doing is wrong.

At no point did I argue that all women would be offended.

People make jokes with other people all the time, not everyone is going to like the joke, including the person that the joke is about.

Especially if that joke is tasteless and offensive. By your logic, any form of harrassment could be dismissed as 'just a joke'. A line has to be drawn and, by most standards, treating females like baby-making sexual objects crosses that line.

If it was so out of line I wouldn't have posted it.

Ah, because you can never do anything wrong?

I didn't find anything wrong with it, and nobody has said anything about it until Tseng opened his big mouth.

Except for Chris. And, what, everybody else's thoughts and actions are mere mirrors of Tseng's? You know I'm not like that, and neither is Moon Goddess.

You guys have a habit of totally blowing my threads out of proportion, and getting the wrong idea about a post.

Your threads...?

Whether or not I'm properly interpreting your reason for making the crude implications that you do, they're still puerile and tasteless.

Dare I bring up the thread Stefan made in the playerworld forum about the profanity filter he made? I'm sick and tired of having my posts picked apart by you two

Wait. In the profanity filter thread, I merely pointed out that the hardcoded filter is superior to anything that could be coded in GScript, and that I didn't understand why you wouldn't use it. I was essentially asking why you'd choose to stay with a scripted version, I wasn't attacking you in any way.

And you say that I misinterpret posts?

You just storm in and make assumptions and then when I explain myself, you just try to act as if your accusations were noble or something.

Tsch. I remember you 'storming into' a thread accusing me of corruption because I deleted some spam. And then when I explained myself, you just tried to act as if your accusations were noble or something

You still haven't justified your actions here. The number of objections alone should show that the 'joke' isn't likely to be universally well-accepted.

The avatar is winking because it's showing that babies will be available on Oasis. It wasn't my intention to have it mean anything else.

That would be one of the more obscure meanings of a wink, then?

Until the targeted individual points out that they do not like the joke I made towards them, and that it was distasteful, then please shut up.

Mmm, no. People shouldn't have to tell you not to make references to sleeping with them. Your amusement does not justify putting them in that position.

Because I don't really see the point in you even mentioning it if it's not offending anyone but yourself

Myself and the four other people that have directly criticised your humor.

Please don't act as if you're the voice of justice, and that these people are just too afraid to come forward, or that I'm somehow cyber-molesting these people, or that they are taking offense to it. If they were, they would say something.

If they were too afraid to come forward, they would say something? Nice logic.

Again: People don't always feel comfortable complaining about such things. Sometimes it's easier to go with the flow, especially if they're

I don't see how you can say my intention had nothing to do with it. You're the one always throwing "context" in my face.

No. I'm the one that hasn't mentioned context even once in this entire thread, and you're the one that wouldn't understand even if I did. The context isn't the issue here, and neither are your intentions. You don't mean to offend them? Fine. But that doesn't really matter, because the key issue here is that your 'jokes' are demeaning and tasteless, regardless of whether or not you intend them to be.

This has nothing to do with my gender. If I was female, I'd make the same joke. I've had girls say I'm going to have their baby. Should I be offended? It's a joke.

You're an idiot. What, you're offended? But it's a joke!

Obvious Counter-Point 2: The rules are different for males and females. Generally speaking, males want to bang everything they see, while females don't want to be banged by everything they see.

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by konidias


That's a matter of opinion,

It's rather more a matter of situation - you say this with friends, not post it on the internet for everyone to read , and misinterprete or become offensed.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Bunch of replies.

I read about halfway through. I'm done. Whatever. This is going nowhere. I'm not going to waste a second more time on this thread. Think what you want. *shrugs*