Graal Reloaded & Revolution (v2.19 + v3) - Page 2

Jeff · #1 05-18-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Python523
wanting to get linux just because of graal is sad I think x.x it kind of ruins the point of the whole OS if you get it just to play games on

What is the point of Linux, do you think, if not to provide a reliable, open-source Unixoid environment?

Anyway, the thing's pretty cool, except that there isn't a theme that doesn't look like WindowsXP or MacOS X. Someone should make a window theme that's like RedHat Bluecurve.

Shiftk03- · #2 05-18-2003, 03:07 AM

I was testing 2.19 out two days before today and it gave me no trouble what so ever. I hope 2.19.1 will be good too!

DarkHero · #3 05-18-2003, 03:50 AM

so we need VIP to work 3.0 or what? can someone show a pic of it

i believe they should do Windows then MAC...

Ibonic · #4 05-18-2003, 04:01 AM

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Originally posted by DarkHero
so we need VIP to work 3.0 or what? can someone show a pic of it

i believe they should do Windows then MAC...

VIP for online mode, for now

some low quality screenshots:
http://www.brien.nu/temp/g/1.jpg
http://www.brien.nu/temp/g/2.jpg
http://www.brien.nu/temp/g/3.jpg
http://www.brien.nu/temp/g/4.jpg
http://www.brien.nu/temp/g/5.jpg

PastAustin · #5 05-18-2003, 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan

Good to hear :-)
There are some bad gfx on some playerworlds, those need to be fixed (transparency, pngs) or converted with the new gif2mng (mngs, new gif2mng not uploaded yet) to look good in the new Graal. The new graal is compatible to the mng standard, meaning some of the old gfx need to be fixed.

Nice work on this Stefan. I need to have a small conversation with you about some Development things. If you agree to talk, just reply or pm me. Thanks. Nick.

Googi · #6 05-18-2003, 06:54 AM

If this VIP thing is really such a huge problem why not just use a windows emulator and run the windows version?

DarkShadows_Legend · #7 05-18-2003, 07:49 AM

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- grabbing showcharacter npcs and players is
enabled again, it was disabled before to prevent
harassement, but was problematic for script things

Does that mean we are able to grab players again? I tried grabbing someone, but it didn't work.

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- there is the new dungeon generator which
has been used to make the dungeons on
Graal Kingdoms. You will need to make your
own inside tiles though to use the
generated levels in your playerworld

I can't find this. Anyone knows if it was left out or am I missing something when downloading?

zell12 · #8 05-18-2003, 08:04 AM

Now all we need is a Remove Control to go along with this theme. Mabey you can be able to make different skins for the RC, and change the font, and make it more, enjoyable. >=)

Oh, and something that desperatly needs to be added; a massmessage buttion.

melissa1988 · #9 05-18-2003, 09:15 AM

Yeah, a mass message button for the client would be good, but then it would probably be abused...oh well, it would be more convienient at any rate.

Spark910 · #10 05-18-2003, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by melissa1988
Yeah, a mass message button for the client would be good, but then it would probably be abused...oh well, it would be more convienient at any rate.

You could just use Shift + End?

syltburk · #11 05-18-2003, 02:06 PM

nobody that can tell me how i do so my computer can read .sh

gawd

Spark910 · #12 05-18-2003, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by syltburk
nobody that can tell me how i do so my computer can read .sh

gawd

Its a Linux associated file. It wont run on Windows.

brock128 · #13 05-18-2003, 05:08 PM

WOHOO! YOU FIXED THE PLACENPC2 or whatever BUG! THANK YOU

!

Python523 · #14 05-18-2003, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by syltburk
nobody that can tell me how i do so my computer can read .sh

gawd

not out fault you can't understand that windows isn't the only OS

Kronan · #15 05-18-2003, 07:15 PM

ugh, this version is trash, it runs SO slow on my computer, Its bad to have the mouse thingy inside the game's screen it slows it down, it goes extremely slow, its hard to move the mouse :x

melissa1988 · #16 05-18-2003, 07:28 PM

Are you sure it's the client and not just your system?

Kronan · #17 05-18-2003, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by melissa1988
Are you sure it's the client and not just your system?

Yes, it is the client, my system is pretty fast, with this i can barely move my mouse playing :x I cant even get as far as playing the game..

Admins · #18 05-18-2003, 08:02 PM

Install OpenGL. Most gfx cards on Linux require you too install drivers from the producer of the card to enable that (they dont release the drivers as open source so they are not in the Linux distribtutions). If you don't install OpenGL then it will run in software mode which is of course very slow.

Kronan · #19 05-18-2003, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Stefan
Install OpenGL. Most gfx cards on Linux require you too install drivers from the producer of the card to enable that (they dont release the drivers as open source so they are not in the Linux distribtutions). If you don't install OpenGL then it will run in software mode which is of course very slow.

Okay, thanks Ill try it out.

Kronan · #20 05-18-2003, 08:22 PM

Okay, I installed it but its still slow as crap

slimchance11 · #21 05-18-2003, 09:59 PM

Woah. Hold it. Does this mean I can't play the Graal 2.18 servers until they go 2.19 too?

Spark910 · #22 05-18-2003, 10:02 PM

If you are running 2.19/3.0 so its best to keep the old version handy, or wait a few days.

slimchance11 · #23 05-18-2003, 10:05 PM

Darn. To late. Anyone got Graal 2.18 in a zip?

Oh and BTW I'm a VIP but since I don't have linux I don't have the benefit of other VIP users? That sort of defeats the whole point of VIP, doesn't it?

melissa1988 · #24 05-19-2003, 12:24 AM

No...it just means that you'll have to wait longer for the windows version because it is not finished yet.

And Kronan, you probably don't have 3D Acceleration enabled.

Dach · #25 05-19-2003, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by slimchance11
Darn. To late. Anyone got Graal 2.18 in a zip?

run setup.exe, change your destination folder, click on the install version number till 2.18 shows up and enjoy the benefits of having a installer program

daboo · #26 05-19-2003, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by syltburk
nobody that can tell me how i do so my computer can read .sh

gawd

Since I think you said you where on Linux earlier, a .sh file on linux is just like a .bat on Windows, just with Linux any file type can be marked as excutable, just change the permsion of the ile to be excutable, and run it, .sh's arn't a file type you need to have another program to run.

I find the Linux version to be slow in some aspects, the graphics arn't that bad (other than transperency problems with some images), but I find sounds lag several seconds behind. My computer, while not top of the line, should be more than fast enough to run a 2D game (as it runs the free 3D games that came with my distro fast, now that I installed the current official NVidia driver.), it's a 1Ghz, with 384MB of ram, and a 32MB GeForce2.

Kronan · #27 05-19-2003, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by melissa1988
No...it just means that you'll have to wait longer for the windows version because it is not finished yet.

And Kronan, you probably don't have 3D Acceleration enabled.

How do I enable it?

MedievalSmurf · #28 05-19-2003, 02:57 AM

Sweet ,
Nice one Stefan you finally converted Graal into C , yaaaaaaa now we can all play on any linux os yaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

The only bad thing for me ,is that i have two win-modems in each of my desktops and i am going to have to connect to the net through my laptop if i want to test it online and another bad thing is that my newest linux os is Mandrex 8.0 and i think Mandrex is on 9.1 now LoL :-)
(or i could try my redhat 6.0 or my corel linux LoL:-) , naaaaaaaaaaaa)
ill just get my friend to give me his newest version of redhat tomoro lol

Kronan · #29 05-19-2003, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by MedievalSmurf
Sweet ,
Nice one Stefan you finally converted Graal into C , yaaaaaaa now we can all play on any linux os yaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

The only bad thing for me ,is that i have two win-modems in each of my desktops and i am going to have to connect to the net through my laptop if i want to test it online and another bad thing is that my newest linux os is Mandrex 8.0 and i think Mandrex is on 9.1 now LoL :-)
(or i could try my redhat 6.0 or my corel linux LoL:-) , naaaaaaaaaaaa)
ill just get my friend to give me his newest version of redhat tomoro lol

Buy an external modem.

Alexander · #30 05-19-2003, 04:50 AM

I perfer Linux over Windows, but I can't switch operating systems yet because I'm a gold member instead of VIP

Googi · #31 05-19-2003, 05:39 AM

Strings aren't stored properly offline

Johnny_5 · #32 05-19-2003, 05:49 AM

I also have opengl installed and it seems to go rather slow. i also get an error that i am missing a X library file. it says this "Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." .
Does graal require a special X driver ?

Python523 · #33 05-19-2003, 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by Johnny_5
I also have opengl installed and it seems to go rather slow. i also get an error that i am missing a X library file. it says this "Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." .
Does graal require a special X driver ?

what video card

and alex: you always can duel boot

melissa1988 · #34 05-19-2003, 06:08 AM

That means that you need a DRI driver for your video card. You can either try to find one online, or hope that X supports your card and has DRI for it, but needs to be enabled.

Googi · #35 05-19-2003, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
What do you mean? Between executions of the client or between plays of the level or...?

Strings get deleted as soon as they are set, even if I set the strings using the flaglist.

Googi · #36 05-19-2003, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
That's pretty strange. Have you tried local. or this. strings?

this. strings are the ones that I'm using.

syltburk · #37 05-19-2003, 04:05 PM

stefan i asked you something, will the gods be totally done atleast all spells when 3.0 is out?

Admins · #38 05-19-2003, 04:42 PM

What do you mean with 'will gods be done' ?

Installing drivers can be tricky sometimes on Linux. If it the gfx or sounds are laggy then its not the fault of Graal though. The gfx need a driver that support OpenGL and DRI (kind of Direct3D and DirectX for windows), like other games on Linux. That shouldn't be a problem with Nvidia cards and ATI i think, cards like from SiS are more a problem.

You can add new themes, if you look in the common/ui/themes folder there are gfx and .th files which set the colors of the gui objects. We will soon add scripting functions for using the gui objects with graal script (creating windows, buttons, receiving events when a button is pressed)

melissa1988 · #39 05-19-2003, 05:52 PM

So when will a Linux RC be done Stefan?

Spark910 · #40 05-19-2003, 05:57 PM

I understand that Linux and Mac have not been doen before so 3.0 is being done for them first. But I hope future updates are on the same day. Or windows is done first.