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Old 09-21-2002, 11:50 PM
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I believe unixmad has removed Nemesis and Alkaren because they do nothing but argue with him and it's getting none of them anywhere.
ummmm well this is not good , from the stand point of arguing with Unixmad .It is one thing to express and idea or point but you still have to respect the Owners wishes whether you "agree" with it or not and do what they wish to do .I know at times Nem is hard headed and wants things his way. But to be any good at being an Admin you must be able to do not only what you would "like" to see done but what the Owner wants to be done.Since Graal is their livelyhood and it pays their bills for their Family they have the right to direct its future no matter what anyone else thinks .People who work for other people do not know all that is involved and don't have the "big picture" so to speak and should just try to do the best job at what they have been given to do to make things run smoothly.Management is not for all , you have to make some tough decisions sometimes and may not always be popular I know this for a fact because Management is something I have done often in real life for companies I have worked for like 'Bordans Dairy , Kraft General Foods and Dean Foods these companies are not small and are major players in the Dairy industry in the USA (billion dollar companies) So I have seen much in management and different ways companies do things but bottom line is "respect the job you have been given and the framework of it " work within you boundries and respect the companies direction and views on what you have to do because if you don't , you will be replaced , its business and nothing personal about it .
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Old 09-21-2002, 11:56 PM
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Why the staff think it's okay to insult the management and tell them they aren't doing a good job, and then expect the management not to fire them is beyond me.

You don't go to work and tell your boss that you don't like the way he is doing things and expect him to say "oh gee, thanks for telling me how to do my job! want a raise? *pat on the back*". He would fire you or you can quit, or you just live with it. That is the only option. If you don't like how things are being run, don't go arguing about it, just leave.

People think they are the only people in the world that can do their job. Unixmad could easily hire new people in a heartbeat. There are others that are qualified to fill the job.
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Old 09-22-2002, 12:07 AM
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Why the staff think it's okay to insult the management and tell them they aren't doing a good job, and then expect the management not to fire them is beyond me.

You don't go to work and tell your boss that you don't like the way he is doing things and expect him to say "oh gee, thanks for telling me how to do my job! want a raise? *pat on the back*". He would fire you or you can quit, or you just live with it. That is the only option. If you don't like how things are being run, don't go arguing about it, just leave.

People think they are the only people in the world that can do their job. Unixmad could easily hire new people in a heartbeat. There are others that are qualified to fill the job.
I agree , There are others who do play the game who are well quailfied to help "manage" the Game . The only thing I would like to see , is better communication among not only Staff but Staff to players . Its good to post things here and I applaude those efforts to get things out , but it doesn't do any good for those players who play Classic Servers who do not have Gold accounts and there are many of such players and are many times left in the Dark as to what is going on. In an effort to improve this on Npulse I post important things from Unixmad in the Npulse Forums so they can get these important messages. But we are only one PW and many players don't get the info because they play other PWs and don't use our Forums.
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Old 09-22-2002, 12:52 AM
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Anyway, no reason to reply Konidias, this is directed to Stefan and Unixmad. Of course you'll defend your own job, it takes a lot of ass kissing to get where you are.
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Old 09-22-2002, 01:24 AM
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Anyway, no reason to reply Konidias, this is directed to Stefan and Unixmad. Of course you'll defend your own job, it takes a lot of ass kissing to get where you are.
Ass kissing ? First off I don't kiss anyones ass in real life much less this Game , I worked to get where I am , I didn't start this Game a month ago. Maybe some of us just follow rules as they are laid out to follow and those who don't; don't get anywhere.There is a certain degree of luck in anything sometimes to get places , being in the right place at the right time but this by no means is a result of "ass kissing" and it is obvious you have little or no time in the real world in management , just someone who is jealous of others who may be in a postion you would like to have , but with your attitude you will never see it. He replied to me , I didn't reply to him till he replied to me, kindly look at the order of the post.
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Old 09-22-2002, 01:29 AM
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Ass kissing ? First off I don't kiss anyones ass in real life much less this Game , I worked to get where I am , I didn't start this Game a month ago. Maybe some of us just follow rules as they are laid out to follow and those who don't; don't get anywhere.There is a certain degree of luck in anything sometimes to get places , being in the right place at the right time but this by no means is a result of "ass kissing" and it is obvious you have little or no time in the real world in management , just someone who is jealous of others who may be in a postion you would like to have , but with your attitude you will never see it. He replied to me , I didn't reply to him till he replied to me, kindly look at the order of the post.
He is talking to Konidias not you......
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Old 09-22-2002, 01:34 AM
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He is talking to Konidias not you......
how do you figure that by this ?

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Old 09-22-2002, 01:41 AM
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how do you figure that by this ?

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That clearly states that Konidias should not reply because it was directed to Stefan and Unixmad not him...
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Old 09-22-2002, 02:00 AM
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Yeah..um...sorry, not everyone talks about you all the time, whoever you are.
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Old 09-22-2002, 02:01 AM
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In my sophomore year of high school, our Humanities class (by which I mean History, but whatever) was covering World War 2. For the section, we were all given a map of a hypothetical world, basically meant to signify europe. Our country, which would be roughly where France is on the map, had sufficient resources to successfully win a war with our neighbors, and we all knew it - however, as I had a deep disdain for my teachers, I opted instead to create a network of alliances, going first to my strongest neighboring country, informing them that they would not be able to conquer the world without bloodshed anyway, inviting them to pool our resources for the peace of the world, etc. I had it all worked out. I was going to achieve world peace in an hour and fifteen minutes or less.

Unfortunately, I wasn't sufficiently quiet with such plan. One of the teacher's pets (and I know pretty well which one) told them all about my "nefarious" scheme to undermine their lesson on the so called geographic inevitability of a second world war, so before I could get my first alliance in they kicked me out of the classroom for disruptive behavior.

I missed the entire game. The one cool thing that happened in that year.

As it later turned out, they had the group in basically Germany (strong army, no navy) refuse all alliances and wage a futile war for the duration, then smugly declared their experiment a success when they lost by professorial decree.

The point? I went up against the true power in that world and lost. Unixmad isn't a video game villain, he's not some Goliath you can David, to verbal a historic noun. He can be reasoned with, but you can't stand up to him. He's still your boss. If he says do something, you do it, then discuss the wisdom of that course of action.

This concludes Office Politics 101. These sorts of destructive actions will happen again. We must be prepared. For more information on earthquakes, please visit the surrounding exhibits. *low hum*
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Old 09-22-2002, 02:17 AM
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Anyway, no reason to reply Konidias, this is directed to Stefan and Unixmad. Of course you'll defend your own job, it takes a lot of ass kissing to get where you are.
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Old 09-22-2002, 02:24 AM
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I go to school in Scotland.
We don't get to do anything like that.
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